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Darmik
08/15/21 8:24:04 PM
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Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale
Playstation Vita (PSP as well really)
Playstation Move
Playstation Classic

There's no reason these things should be as bad as they were. That's not even mentioning the things that were still done pretty poorly but succeeded anyway. PS3's online features compared to the 360 for example.

I'm not criticizing the act of copying things. It's pretty inevitable but damn if you're going to do it at least do it right. How long have they wanted to have a multiplayer hit of their own? 20 years and counting and still nothing that has lasted?

They're a successful company for sure but it's actually amazing how bad they are at copying other companies successes. It's the part of Playstation that still has that Sony DNA because their other divisions do it even worse.

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Lairen
08/15/21 8:24:56 PM
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You know what: you had good examples. Cheers.

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Kim_Seong-a
08/15/21 8:30:31 PM
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The biggest problem with entering the handheld market is that Nintendo owns the entire thing. They really should've just eaten any losses from piracy and made the Vita as accessible and convenient as possible. Fucking 120 dollar memory cards fuck lol

It was a slick piece of hardware though, i enjoyed it

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Nemu
08/15/21 8:33:06 PM
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I wouldn't really call their portables bad. They might have had a few less than optimal choices, but I think the majority of their inability to claim the handheld market share is simply that Nintendo was such a dominating force in the area. Had there been more competition beforehand, they might have had a better chance at it.
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Darmik
08/15/21 8:34:37 PM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
The biggest problem with entering the handheld market is that Nintendo owns the entire thing. They really should've just eaten any losses from piracy and made the Vita as accessible and convenient as possible. Fucking 120 dollar memory cards fuck lol

It was a slick piece of hardware though, i enjoyed it

Sure it always was gonna be tough but treating handhelds like the B-tier device you only bother with if you're away from the actual Playstation was never gonna work. There's gotta be more than just spin-offs and some niche first party games.

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AlBundy33
08/15/21 8:35:57 PM
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The PSP wasnt a bad handheld at all, the vita on the other hand was a pile of shit, Sony doomed it from the start

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Choco
08/15/21 8:37:42 PM
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but but people told me psasbr would be better than smash when all we knew about it was the developer???

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Darmik
08/15/21 8:40:15 PM
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The PSP did fine really but they could have learned the right lessons from it for the Vita. But they didn't learn a single thing. Their big studios still didn't want to touch it. They still never attempted to actually launch a major franchise on the thing. So it died quick and hard. It no longer had the multimedia or hacking advantages that the PSP had and Western third parties had lost interest in portables hard.

They didn't even try to keep Monster Hunter on the thing which basically gave Nintendo Japan on a silver platter. So overall I'm not even sure if they knew what worked with the PSP at all.

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Smashingpmkns
08/15/21 8:42:00 PM
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It's still wild to me that they haven't managed to have a solid FPS franchise of their own. Killzone felt like it had potential at times. I forgot Resistance even existed until I googled "first party Sony FPS games" lol
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Reis
08/15/21 8:42:28 PM
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in what universe was the PSP bad
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lilORANG
08/15/21 8:42:44 PM
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The Move was better than kinect and Wii in terms of tech. It was just under utilized.

But PS Allstars not being a direct smash ripoff was a huge disappointment
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YugiNoob
08/15/21 8:43:40 PM
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The Vita had great games, but the memory cards were stupid as fuck

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TetsuoS2
08/15/21 8:44:59 PM
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Anyone remember MAG on PS3? It was kinda novel for its time.

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Darmik
08/15/21 8:45:52 PM
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lilORANG posted...
The Move was better than kinect and Wii in terms of tech. It was just under utilized.

That's a pretty recurring problem for them really.

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Gurifisu
08/15/21 8:47:08 PM
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lilORANG posted...
The Move was better than kinect and Wii in terms of tech. It was just under utilized.
Yeah, same goes for the Vita I'd say. I don't think they're "bad copies" since on a technical level they're just flat out better than their counterparts. It's not a matter of being a bad copy for the vita and move. It's just bad support.

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Darmik
08/15/21 8:51:00 PM
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Gurifisu posted...
Yeah, same goes for the Vita I'd say. I don't think they're "bad copies" since on a technical level they're just flat out better than their counterparts. It's not a matter of being a bad copy for the vita and move. It's just bad support.

That's what makes them being bad at copying so frustrating. Better tech isn't enough. It never has been enough.

PSP did overall get by with better tech but the momentum was completely lost for a reason. They just didn't have anything that kept people loyal to their portable lineup. When people think of iconic Playstation studios and games none of them are on PSP or Vita.

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TwoDoorPC
08/17/21 10:31:03 AM
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psnow is also crap compared to gamepass

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Darmik
08/17/21 5:08:10 PM
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GiggetySplicer posted...
Don't forget Sony State of Play

Oh yeah totally. Finishing on a high note and not making most of the show games that have already been shown seem like obvious lessons to learn from Nintendo Direct's but yet they don't seem to know.

TwoDoorPC posted...
psnow is also crap compared to gamepass

Yeah the streaming part was first but I think the subscription part was after Game Pass? Again not really noticing what works about Game Pass. Putting in an old first party games for three months is just weird. Also even though it's not only a streaming service it's still not available in a lot of countries.

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