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Shezarr
08/15/21 5:24:13 PM
#103:


Trumble posted...
And you keep asking me to prove a negative, when it would take you all of 2 seconds for you to bring up a counterexample... if one existed.
....WHAT lmao.

If you're going to keep saying that I only focus on "visible but insignificant racism while ignoring less visible ones" the onus is on YOU to explain what the fuck you're talking about, otherwise it just looks like a baseless strawman to make me look bad (which, of course, it is)

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KeeperOfShadows
08/15/21 5:24:18 PM
#104:


Bass_X0 posted...
Why would anyone want to add it to their vocabulary if they were not inherently racist?
Why do people keep throwing out this terrible argument?

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WallStreetWolf
08/15/21 5:26:23 PM
#105:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Or...orrrr... follow with me now... because it was just an expression of anger and was in no way indicative of his feelings on any particular ethnicity or culture. Because it's just a word.

I've seen the boondocks. I've seen Django Unchained. I've heard a fuck-load of rap music. It's not like we've never heard the word before.

If your way of expressing anger is a racial slur, it's most likely coming from racist undertones.

For the movies and shows you referenced, I don't think you understand that the characters saying the word are either black themselves or racist. No one is saying that they are against hearing the word. There's a difference between acting and real-life white people saying the word

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Trumble
08/15/21 5:26:24 PM
#106:


Bass_X0 posted...
Why would anyone want to add it to their vocabulary if they were not inherently racist?
In my case personally, I learnt it via the older version of the Eeny Meeny Miny Mo rhyme. I had no idea what it meant - I imagined it might be some kind of animal, especially after hearing the alternative version that replaces it with "tiger".

It wasn't until like 5 or 6 years later I found out the meaning, and then about that long again until I learnt the actual history of the word - was sometime inbetween these two marks where I realised "hey, I shouldn't use this word".

It might surprise you to know there's more to the world than just America.

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Bass_X0
08/15/21 5:27:59 PM
#107:


KeeperOfShadows posted...
Why do people keep throwing out this terrible argument?

If someone wasn't racist, it takes a knowledgeable conscious effort to say it. It never just slips out, not even in the heat of the moment.

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Bass_X0
08/15/21 5:28:38 PM
#108:


WallStreetWolf posted...


If your way of expressing anger is a racial slur, it's most likely coming from racist undertones.

I agree with this.

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Shezarr
08/15/21 5:31:05 PM
#109:


Shezarr posted...
If you're going to keep saying that I only focus on "visible but insignificant racism while ignoring less visible ones" the onus is on YOU to explain what the f*** you're talking about, otherwise it just looks like a baseless strawman to make me look bad (which, of course, it is)
Interesting that this post got ignored

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armandro
08/15/21 5:31:13 PM
#110:


lmao
people in this topic never had a heated gamer moment

pewdiepie cant be racist
his best friend Edgar is black

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Axiom
08/15/21 5:31:43 PM
#111:


Bass_X0 posted...
If someone wasn't racist, it takes a knowledgeable conscious effort to say it. It never just slips out, not even in the heat of the moment.
Yup. He's racist and denying that is pointless

^ Lol holy shit is that black friend post above me real
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KeeperOfShadows
08/15/21 5:36:14 PM
#112:


Bass_X0 posted...
If someone wasn't racist, it takes a knowledgeable conscious effort to say it. It never just slips out, not even in the heat of the moment.

Alright, we'll go with your logic. He made a conscious effort to say it.

How does that make him racist? Since when did saying the n-word automatically warp one's mind to a racist outlook?

Like I'm sorry, but this notion that a person should be condemned for saying something offensive will always seem stupid to me. Especially when it's literally just the words. To my knowledge, nothing he's actually done implies he's racist, so why is it something worth getting bent out of shape over? Tell him you don't approve of him using that word and move on with your life. Everybody else has.

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MrMallard
08/15/21 5:36:46 PM
#113:


I don't have the time or patience for this horseshit, but I will leave on this note:

Trumble posted...
If you overreact to highly visible but relatively insignificant instances of it while not really giving a shit about the less visible ones - much like the hypothetical (or, really, not-so-hypothetical given how many examples there's been) homophobic Republican above - that's a different story.
First of all, who's arguing that by speaking out against the bigger examples of this, you're not doing enough to tackle it on a more personal level? It's insane troll logic, you can't win because if you're vocal about celebrities saying racial slurs you're not doing enough to fix the underlying problem, but if you don't comment on this shit, it's allowed to spread unfettered. It's not clever.

Second - I don't think it's a stretch to say that the more visible an instance of bigotry is, the more relevant it is. People use those moments as touchstones to decide how acceptable it is, and the more popular someone is when they make overtly bigoted comments, the more people start thinking it's okay. Especially when the person making those comments gets off fairly lightly. So yes, shit like this matters.

Your concern trolling over "not doing enough about actual racism" based on how loudly someone speaks about a widely observed instance of racism is reprehensible, and the fact that even Brutai recognised how pathetic your trolling was compared to Rebel defending himself should be a low point for you. Having read it was a low point for me. It's genuinely depressing to see you stoop to this level to annoy other users. It's absolutely pathetic. I get that that's the point and I'm just falling for the bait, but it at least feels better to express: it sucks.

I'll probably be back to talk about the "pewdie-pipleline" later, but if I'm going to waste my time on anything right now, I don't want it to be this fucking soul-sucking to subject myself to.

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Shezarr
08/15/21 5:38:31 PM
#114:


MrMallard posted...
I don't have the time or patience for this horseshit, but I will leave on this note:

First of all, who's arguing that by speaking out against the bigger examples of this, you're not doing enough to tackle it on a more personal level? It's insane troll logic, you can't win because if you're vocal about celebrities saying racial slurs you're not doing enough to fix the underlying problem, but if you don't comment on this shit, it's allowed to spread unfettered. It's not clever.

Second - I don't think it's a stretch to say that the more visible an instance of bigotry is, the more relevant it is. People use those moments as touchstones to decide how acceptable it is, and the more popular someone is when they make overtly bigoted comments, the more people start thinking it's okay. Especially when the person making those comments gets off fairly lightly. So yes, shit like this matters.

Your concern trolling over "not doing enough about actual racism" based on how loudly someone speaks about a widely observed instance of racism is reprehensible, and the fact that even Brutai recognised how pathetic your trolling was compared to Rebel defending himself should be a low point for you. Having read it was a low point for me. It's genuinely depressing to see you stoop to this level to annoy other users. It's absolutely pathetic.

I'll probably be back to talk about the "pewdie-pipleline" later, but if I'm going to waste my time on anything right now, I don't want it to be this fucking soul-sucking to subject myself to.
Well said.

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CanuckCowboy
08/15/21 5:40:39 PM
#115:


Bass_X0 posted...
If someone wasn't racist, it takes a knowledgeable conscious effort to say it. It never just slips out, not even in the heat of the moment.

Exactly.

The fact it was in anger makes it seem worse to me honestly, not better. I dont care what did or didn't happen to him as a result much but just as a personal take its fucking strange that anyone would use that word in that context and people could say it isn't racist. Is he a racist? I have no idea... that was certainly indicative of racism to me though.

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PC-Builder_Pony
08/15/21 5:40:41 PM
#116:


It wasn't a big deal

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Jabodie
08/15/21 5:42:42 PM
#117:


Axiom posted...
Yup. He's racist and denying that is pointless

^ Lol holy shit is that black friend post above me real
Edgar is a dog, it's a shit post

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BloodMoon7
08/15/21 5:45:25 PM
#118:


Jabodie posted...
Edgar is a dog, it's a shit post
Bro wtf why you calling him a dog, racist.

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armandro
08/15/21 5:48:39 PM
#119:


When is CE going to say that Pewdiepie is a groomer.
He dated one of his fans (now they're married)

this is an abuse of power!

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PC-Builder_Pony
08/15/21 5:52:15 PM
#120:


Trumble posted...
I get the feeling Rebel is one of those people who if you were to search through their own archive of deleted tweets / etc, you'd find far more N bombs than Pewdiepie ever dropped.

Interesting

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BloodMoon7
08/15/21 5:52:36 PM
#121:


armandro posted...
When is CE going to say that Pewdiepie is a groomer.
He dated one of his fans (now they're married)

this is an abuse of power!
He did?!

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pogo_rabid
08/15/21 5:53:54 PM
#122:


iirc, he was getting hounded about it for years afterwards and had a ton of news articles written about it causing him to get harassment/lose brand deals. He didn't get off "scott free".

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Tappor
08/15/21 5:54:36 PM
#123:


who the fuck is watching pdp

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One_Day_Remains
08/15/21 5:56:45 PM
#124:


TheRadiant posted...

What context? That he spouts racial slurs when angry?


I'm pretty sure that poster is incapable of tying his shoes without choking himself out
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Derwood
08/15/21 5:57:20 PM
#125:


I remember being at one of my daughter's softball games a few years ago and there was some seven year old kid with a tablet and headphones watching videos (his mom clearly just gave it to him to keep him quiet) and he was watching PewDiePie videos. I'm sure that kid turned out great
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armandro
08/15/21 5:57:42 PM
#126:


BloodMoon7 posted...
He did?!
yeah idk kinda cute she sent him a message or something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aduZTauDn3s
heres a video where they look back on them

kinda cringe but cute too

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One_Day_Remains
08/15/21 5:58:19 PM
#127:


Gobstoppers12 posted...

It wasn't said in a racist manner. He wasn't saying it directly to somebody. He yelled it in the same way somebody might say "you motherfucker."

It's not the evidence of racism you guys seem to think it is. Words are words. What matters is intent.


"Yelling the n-word wasn't said in a racist manner"

Lol
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PC-Builder_Pony
08/15/21 6:26:16 PM
#128:


armandro posted...
When is CE going to say that Pewdiepie is a groomer.
He dated one of his fans (now they're married)

this is an abuse of power!

The guy plays video games for a living. You sure about who groomed who?

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PC-Builder_Pony
08/15/21 6:27:30 PM
#129:


Trumble posted...
No, I'm "shocked" (and by that I mean not shocked at all) that one of the most melty-prone leftists on this site went and used the very "I have black friends/family" claim that they get so upset about anyone else using.

Same though not as surprised, lmfao

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Shezarr
08/15/21 6:31:35 PM
#130:


You gonna be okay 462?

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RAAAWWWRRR
08/15/21 6:46:37 PM
#131:


Lmao this thread already blew up under an hour.....

To 500!

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Dabrikishaw15
08/15/21 6:50:33 PM
#132:


Axiom posted...
No one forgave him. His fans don't care and everyone else who isn't a fan already didn't like him


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One_Day_Remains
08/15/21 6:51:55 PM
#133:


Shezarr posted...
You gonna be okay 462?


That dude has never been okay
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