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STEROLIZER
08/14/21 5:11:01 AM
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Why exactly can't people just live & work wherever the fuck they want. The whole concept of anti immigration seems to have it's roots in nationalism...aka racism.

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Questionmarktarius
08/14/21 5:13:09 AM
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Nations exist.
That's why going to another nation is usually not easy.
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STEROLIZER
08/14/21 5:13:41 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Nations exist.
That's why going to another nation is usually not easy.

But why not?

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Winrawr
08/14/21 5:33:18 AM
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STEROLIZER posted...
But why not?
Because people need to create their own societies and nations. If everyone could just come to America, competiton for jobs would be
obscene. People would have to work hard for low salaries and impossible housing prices.
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Questionmarktarius
08/14/21 5:43:00 AM
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Why do we have nations?
think on that.
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Rustykranz
08/14/21 5:43:51 AM
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Wtf

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rexcrk
08/14/21 5:48:30 AM
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Wait so are you for immigration or against it?

Your topic title implies one way but your first post implies the other.

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STEROLIZER
08/14/21 5:54:59 AM
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rexcrk posted...
Wait so are you for immigration or against it?

Your topic title implies one way but your first post implies the other.

What?

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STEROLIZER
08/14/21 5:57:59 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Why do we have nations?
think on that.

I mean why do we continuously fight to preserve nations. Back in our last we were territorial conquerors/colonizers...

... shouldn't we be trying to evolve as humanity evolves, and this be moving away from borders? Why are we trying to preserve them?

It just doesn't make any sense to me. I should be able to walk right into Mexico and purchase an apartment if I do desired. Vice versa, they should be able to do the same.

What's the point of it all?

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Solid Snake07
08/14/21 6:06:01 AM
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STEROLIZER posted...
But why not?


Because there are nations. A nation with open borders isn't a nation, it's just a freely traveled piece of land.

If you want to have the overly optimistic idea that it should be that way, then good for you. But your ideology is detached from the reality of the world we actually live in.

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Questionmarktarius
08/14/21 6:10:33 AM
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The purpose of nations is to sequester limitations on liberty.
If we had actual liberty, there would be no purpose of nations.

Let's say we melt all nations together, tomorrow. How do we deal the 120% firearms ownership rate of United States?
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STEROLIZER
08/14/21 6:11:55 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Let's say we melt all nations together, tomorrow. How do we deal the 120% firearms ownership rate of United States?

What?

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Questionmarktarius
08/14/21 6:21:01 AM
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STEROLIZER posted...
What?
We make Earth the only nation on earth.
What do you do with that one nation that has 4% of the population, but 5% of all the firearms, and about half of all the atom bombs?
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STEROLIZER
08/14/21 6:22:21 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
We make Earth the only nation on earth.
What do you do with that one nation that has 4% of the population, but 5% of all the firearms, and about half of all the atom bombs?

I don't understand. It's one nation. Why would it matter?

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Homeless_Waifu
08/14/21 6:22:31 AM
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STEROLIZER posted...
Why exactly can't people just live & work wherever the fuck they want. The whole concept of anti immigration seems to have it's roots in nationalism...aka racism.

Because everyone is different.
That's why people can't simply live and work wherever they want because there will always be someone who has trouble accepting that people are different, come from different parts of the world, view the world differently...

If you don't conform to a certain mindset certain parts of the world will have trouble indoctrinating you to their society.

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STEROLIZER
08/14/21 6:25:41 AM
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Homeless_Waifu posted...
Because everyone is different.
That's why people can't simply live and work wherever they want because there will always be someone who has trouble accepting that people are different, come from different parts of the world, view the world differently...

If you don't conform to a certain mindset certain parts of the world will have trouble indoctrinating you to their society.

I mean states are different. I live in San Francisco, I'm from Phoenix, and born Boston. All three of those places are polar opposite.

Despite New York & Omaha being 100% different in culture, they are still two sides of the same coin because they are part of the same nation.

Just make Earth, one Nation under all.

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Solid Snake07
08/14/21 6:38:56 AM
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STEROLIZER posted...
Just make Earth, one Nation under all.


Nice thought

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teep_
08/14/21 6:50:52 AM
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Because those who have power aren't willing to give it up to a world government
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mech dragon
08/14/21 7:13:31 AM
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Misleading topic title. So what TC really means is that borders are stupid. An SJW value that hippies did first but then gave up on.

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Jiek_Fafn
08/14/21 7:28:05 AM
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Irrigation is stupid

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David1988
08/14/21 7:34:13 AM
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Youre against the idea of nation-states, not immigration.

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STEROLIZER
08/14/21 4:28:03 PM
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David1988 posted...
Youre against the idea of nation-states, not immigration.

It's not the same?

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Shezarr
08/14/21 4:29:23 PM
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Why are people ITT acting like the very concept of "nations" isn't an extremely recent one?

Also multiple studies have shown that opening borders/making free access back and forth easier would hugely benefit world GDP across the board.

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saspa
08/14/21 4:32:51 PM
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Land, territories and dividing lines are more of a white man's trademark. The nomads of old just went from place to place surviving, whichever place had the most resources and places for grazing cattle.

Hell it wasn't until the British invaded and basically forced places like the arab lands to put lines that we had this concept of countries. Before it was just "regions" with people from that region. That evolved into nation states.
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YourDrunkFather
08/14/21 4:33:19 PM
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countries are racist

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mooreandrew58
08/14/21 4:40:31 PM
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For me its a matter of documentation.

Best analogy I can give is like when my mom worked security at a military base and this civillain who had a cleaning job on the base wantes to bring her kids in and dump them at the rec center while she worked. My mother couldnt approve iit cause they where not approved visitors. Woman got mad but my mother explained to her that if shit hit the fan (emergency situation) no body was gonna go looking for her kids cause on paper they didn't exist on the base. She did help the woman petition and get a program started where she and others could bring their kids and leave them at the rec center.

And my granfather mentioned it wasnt uncommon an illegal immigrant would get murdered back in his day and it wouldn't be investigated or anything. Couldnt even contact next of kin cause they didn't exist on paper and had nothing to go on.

With that said the legal process should be easier and shorter.

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