Poll of the Day > We should get rid of timezones

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It'll make things a lot simpler and more direct to just have 1 global time.

Idc if 3am is the middle of the day for China

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it would really not make anything simpler

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But then it wouldn't be 5 o'clock somewhere

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I agree with muscles

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420 and beer:30 happening at the same time, all around the world equals world peace.

No. It can make it harder to know when to call people and stuff. Most people are fine with knowing what time it is somewhere else so they won't call at inconvenient times. It was also take a long time for things to actually work out. It would be a waste of time, honestly...
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Muscles posted...

It'll make things a lot simpler and more direct to just have 1 global time.

Idc if 3am is the middle of the day for China

You're assuming China wouldn't call dibs on universal time.

The most likely scenario would be that "absolute time" would be split somewhere between China and India (so nearly half the global population would get to be close to the expected time, and everyone else would get fucked).

The only other realistic alternative is that Europe can argue hard enough to keep GMT as the primary time zone, though that sort of shit might not fly in the modern world.

Either way, the US would get fucked hard in that scenario.

Doubly so, since there've actually been studies that imply time of day can have a huge impact on things like psychological health and productivity (they usually get brought up whenever someone starts talking about getting rid of Daylight Savings Time).

Regardless, the minor things that get simplified by a single universe time would be offset by the tons of way more important things that get absolutely fucked over in the transition to it, so almost no nation on Earth would ever agree to it. Similar to how the US still refuses to adopt the Metric System or how countries with left-hand drive (probably about 30% of the world's population) refuse to switch to the right.
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Um idk that'd really screw up scheduling for things like call centers that take international calls

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

You're assuming China wouldn't call dibs on universal time.

The most likely scenario would be that "absolute time" would be split somewhere between China and India (so nearly half the global population would get to be close to the expected time, and everyone else would get fucked).

The only other realistic alternative is that Europe can argue hard enough to keep GMT as the primary time zone, though that sort of shit might not fly in the modern world.

Either way, the US would get fucked hard in that scenario.

Doubly so, since there've actually been studies that imply time of day can have a huge impact on things like psychological health and productivity (they usually get brought up whenever someone starts talking about getting rid of Daylight Savings Time).

Regardless, the minor things that get simplified by a single universe time would be offset by the tons of way more important things that get absolutely fucked over in the transition to it, so almost no nation on Earth would ever agree to it. Similar to how the US still refuses to adopt the Metric System or how countries with left-hand drive (probably about 30% of the world's population) refuse to switch to the right.

America is the world leader in most aspects, why would China get a say in that? Unless they just want to be stubborn, in which case they can just not be involved with the rest of the world and can go get fucked without any trade partners until they agree to use central time

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Fuck China, they can suck a butt

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Muscles posted...

America is the world leader in most aspects, why would China get a say in that? Unless they just want to be stubborn, in which case they can just not be involved with the rest of the world and can go get fucked without any trade partners until they agree to use central time

So, youre assuming everyone would just agree to be on the USs time? Because that probably wouldnt happen. GMT is more likely. Even the US milItaly uses it for things like flying hours. So, the world wouldnt be on our time. Wed be ok someone elses time. And like PO said, that could really mess with people psychologically or whatever
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Lol China and the Asian continent makes most of the stuff Americans and most of the world uses.

BEERandWEED posted...

Lol China and the Asian continent makes most of the stuff Americans and most of the world uses.

It's not like there isn't cheap labor to be exploited anywhere else in the world

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no.

we do need to get rid of dst though
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BEERandWEED posted...

Lol China and the Asian continent makes most of the stuff Americans and most of the world uses.

and?

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idk i feel like significantly disrupting life for everyone on this continent just to stick it to china isn't the move

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Kanatteru posted...

idk i feel like significantly disrupting life for everyone on this continent just to stick it to china isn't the move

I mean a lot of peoples lives are disrupted now for no good reason at all

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Agree with muscles

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Mead posted...

I mean a lot of peoples lives are disrupted now for no good reason at all

you've convinced me just go wild

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we did it! we have defeated the concept of time!

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Kanatteru posted...

idk i feel like significantly disrupting life for everyone on this continent just to stick it to china isn't the move

I mean, people that have to do business with people halfway across the globe have to do stuff in the middle of the night sometimes anyways

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Muscles posted...

I mean, people that have to do business with people halfway across the globe have to do stuff in the middle of the night sometimes anyways

yes and they would still have to do that with a universal time, except it would be even more confusing because the time would have no bearing on whether it is day or night. do you think the sun would move differently in the sky if you changed it

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muscles topic

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Kanatteru posted...

yes and they would still have to do that with a universal time, except it would be even more confusing because the time would have no bearing on whether it is day or night. do you think the sun would move differently in the sky if you changed it

no, day and night cycles would be the same

i think it would be ok, people know that if you talk to someone far away that it is a different part of the day/night for them

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no

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Muscles posted...

I mean, people that have to do business with people halfway across the globe have to do stuff in the middle of the night sometimes anyways

Yeah. But less people work at night. And most try to find a good time for both of them. Which is easier when there are different times. Like if I know Japan is 14 hours ahead, then I know when its 7pm is 9am there. And its still an ok time for business in both places. I personally think having everything the same time would get confusing as it becomes harder to find a good time to have meeting with someone across the globe because you have no idea if its around the usually time when people arent doing as much business. I think it would be way more confusing, tbh

Mead posted...

i think it would be ok, people know that if you talk to someone far away that it is a different part of the day/night for them

It would be pretty confusing, though With the cycles we have now, its easy to tell when its a good time to call people in different areas. It would be much more confusing if we fuck with time for literally no reason Just being say or night doesnt matter. What matters is what time of the day or night it is. Which works better with time zones
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Kanatteru posted...

yes and they would still have to do that with a universal time, except it would be even more confusing because the time would have no bearing on whether it is day or night. do you think the sun would move differently in the sky if you changed it

I mean it would be easier to schedule meetings if the time was the same for everyone

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Muscles posted...

I mean it would be easier to schedule meetings if the time was the same for everyone

it would still be the middle of the night.

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Muscles posted...

I mean it would be easier to schedule meetings if the time was the same for everyone

No or wouldnt. Its been harder since youd have to find a good time for both. Right now its easy since you can look at times for both countries and say, its be a little after breakfast there and a little before or after dinner there. Because you can easily know that 9am and 7pm are both fine times for meetings. It becomes harder when all time is the same and you cant tell whats too early and whats too late
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Kanatteru posted...

it would still be the middle of the night.

so how would it be any different than it is now in that regard?

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Yeah and they would have to do that either way but having 1 universal time would make things easier on an international level

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Muscles posted...

Yeah and they would have to do that either way but having 1 universal time would make things easier on an international level

How? It seems harder since you know have to learn new times of what is too early or too late in every country. Where as right now, its pretty easy to guess at what is too early or late in most cases
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sure yeah it's definitely easier to have to think about what time of day it is in australia, instead of just looking it up and seeing what time it is and knowing. that is definitely easier

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LinkPizza posted...

How? It seems harder since you know have to learn new times of what is too early or too late in every country. Where as right now, its pretty easy to guess at what is too early or late in most cases

1500 would be 1500 universally

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Kanatteru posted...

sure yeah it's definitely easier to have to think about what time of day it is in australia, instead of just looking it up and seeing what time it is and knowing. that is definitely easier

you could just as easily still look up what part of the day it is anywhere

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Mead posted...

1500 would be 1500 universally

Yeah. And? The time itself doesnt matters. Whats matters is knowing if its too late or too early to call someone, for example. If its 1500 hundred everywhere, I wont be able to tell if its too early or late to call someone in another country. But if I know its 8 pm here and 11 am in Australia, I know its still a good time to call. Its it 5am in both places, I have no idea if its too early or late to call

Mead posted...

you could just as easily still look up what part of the day it is anywhere

This is much harder than just having different time, though. Why make everything harder for no benefit Its easier and makes more sense to know its 8 on here and 11 am there, then trying to guess based on sun position whether its too early or late
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LinkPizza posted...

This is much harder than just having different time, though. Why make everything harder for no benefit

I dont think its much harder, I think youre making it more complicated in your mind. If you really need to know anything more specific than midmorning, late afternoon, etc, then you probably already know who you are calling and what theyre up to at what times, and if not you leave a message or call back like any other time that happens.

And when talking to people from all over you could just say ok we will meet back about this at 0900 and everyone knows when that is right away and can plan around it or speak up and say Yo that is my sleep time actually, Ill catch the next one if possible

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Mead posted...

you could just as easily still look up what part of the day it is anywhere

i don't need to look it up though. why would i switch to a system where i would need to look it up

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Kanatteru posted...

i don't need to look it up though. why would i switch to a system where i would need to look it up

you already know what time it is everywhere? If so thats impressive

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Mead posted...

you already know what time it is everywhere? If so thats impressive

if i were doing business with someone i would know, yes

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Mead posted...

I dont think its much harder, I think youre making it more complicated in your mind. If you really need to know anything more specific than midmorning, late afternoon, etc, then you probably already know who you are calling and what theyre up to at what times, and if not you leave a message or call back like any other time that happens.

And when talking to people from all over you could just say ok we will meet back about this at 0900 and everyone knows when that is right away and can plan around it or speak up and say Yo that is my sleep time actually, Ill catch the next one if possible

Im not making it complicated. Its a complicated change. Almost the entire world has to learn new times for everything. I know what they are probably up to during normal times. Like I know that if its 7 am - 9 am, they are probably having breakfast. Or if its 1 am - 1 pm, they are probably having lunch. Or if its 6 pm - 8 pm, they are probably having dinner. Or if its someone who goes to school, maybe they get home around 4 pm - 5 pm. Thats easy because I understand those times already in different areas in the world. It becomes much harder when all you have is a vague sense or whether its morning or afternoon. Especially since chances are, our times would be different, too. We would most likely switch to GMT. So, no. I dont know what everyone is doing at exactly what time. But a vague guess based on their time. But I still wont know if its too early or late unless I convert it back to normal times. Which is why it makes more sense to keep the original time zones. If they thought it would be better, they most likely would have changed it years ago So, its obviously not that good of an idea And the leave a message might not work if we never know if items early or late. Its just makes things more complicated then having time zones. Which isnt complicated at all Especially since I can put clocks for different areas up and know whether its early, late, or midday And you probably wouldnt make the mistake of calling someone during their sleep time if they had their own time. Its going to make things more confusing and probably slow things down
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Muscles posted...

It'll make things a lot simpler and more direct to just have 1 global time.

Idc if 3am is the middle of the day for China

agreed. Est is the standard and it should be so everywhere.

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Kanatteru posted...

if i were doing business with someone i would know, yes

This is true. If you do business with somebody quite often, you may even have a clock with their time is the office. For example, for my job, we use local and Zulu time. So we have a local and Zulu clock in the office for that
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Kanatteru posted...

if i were doing business with someone i would know, yes

if you were doing business with them youd either already have agreed on times or youd know what time of day it is there just as easily

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Mead posted...

if you were doing business with them youd either already have agreed on times or youd know what time of day it is there just as easily

Except things change. You may not be able to do a certain time anymore. Or on a certain day. Which time zones, its much easier to know when you can reschedule for. Where it takes more converting when everywhere in the same time
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LinkPizza posted...

Except things change. You may not be able to do a certain time anymore. Or on a certain day. Which time zones, its much easier to know when you can reschedule for. Where it takes more converting when everywhere in the same time

I really dont see how it becomes any more complicated

even with time zones you still have to schedule things around and not everyone can be available at all times. With just one time things become a lot more transparent

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And it should be noted, that there actually is only one time on this planet happening all at once

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Mead posted...

I really dont see how it becomes any more complicated

even with time zones you still have to schedule things around and not everyone can be available at all times. With just one time things become a lot more transparent

I dont see how it can be simple. The time zone were created specifically for this reason. They created it for a unified time system. So, its easy to know that noon means the same thing everywhere. But they have there noon at different times. Obviously, they created it because it helped. If they thought everywhere having the same time would help, then they would have created it like that And because we like to be polite and not call too early or late, time zones are good because they help with that. Or else people will be converting all the time to know what time it should be somewhere else. I mean, you already see people converting to make things easier to understand. Like when somebody converts cm to feet and inches to see how tall someone is. If cms are hard for someone to understand, they change it to what they understand. Same thing with time. Most people are use to time being a pretty strong constant. Changing that can make it really hard to understand what time it is anywhere for them. Its just seems like a useless idea. Something a child asks in elementary school, really

And with time zones, you do have to schedule things. But its much easier. Like Ill try to avoid too early or late in their country if possible. Items much easier when I know the time in their time zone, though Like earlier, I said it helps when I know it 9 am there and 7 pm here, its an ok time for everybody. Or maybe knock it back and hour or two if I dont think 8 am or 7 am is too early. With the same time zone everywhere, it becomes much harder because I dont know whats too early or late for them now Well, without converting, that is

Mead posted...

And it should be noted, that there actually is only one time on this planet happening all at once

And thats not really a good or bad thing. Who even cares about this?
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LinkPizza posted...

Who even cares about this?

big thinkers

dr doom and the like

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