Current Events > Republicans are OUTRAGED after Democrats include WOMEN in the MILITARY DRAFT!!

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Full Throttle
08/09/21 9:44:46 PM
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Whose side are you on?



Republicans are OUTRAGED over Democrats move to include WOMEN into the DRAFT as 6 Senators including Mike Lee, Marco Rubio, James Lankford, Steve Dains and Roger Wicker and Josh Hawley are challenging the legislation that would force women to register for the draft when they turn 18

Hawley said "Women have heroically served in and alongside America's fighting forces since our nation's founding. It's one thing to allow American women to choose this life, it's quite another to force it upon our daughters, sisters and wives. Missourians feel strongly that compelling women to serve is wrong and so do i"

They are drafting up the "Don't Draft Our Daughter's" Resolution to challenge the senate armed services committee over language in the 2022 National Defense Authorization Act that would for the first time require females aged 18-25 to draft

It passed overwhelmingly in the committee on a 23-3 vote where Hawley, Cotton and Democrat, Elizabeth Warren voted no.

No American has been drafted in the military since the Vietnam War but under current law, males who fail to register are banned from accessing federal student air or holding a government job and could be fined 250,000 or face 5 years in prison

Congress tried in the past to amend the military selective services act to include women but failed in opposition of the republicans.

Jack Reed, the Senate Armed Services Chair will change the text to "all Americans" and remove the male reference

But Republicans say only a "small" subset of women are able to meet the physical requirements for combat roles as only men can handle the physical prowess as a soldier in terms of army fitness and say no women should be forced under her will to be joined the military and says 65-84% of women fail the standard compared to 10-30% of men

Republicans say women already have a role BACK HOME and do not need to pick up arms to defend the country when men are suitable enough

The Supreme Court will be asked in June if it's sex discrimination for government to require only men to register for the draft when they turn 18

Ria Tabacco Mar, the director of the ACLU Women's Rights Projects is urging the court ot take up the issue and says requiring men to register imposes a serious burden on men that's not being imposed on women and is a harmful message that women are less fit than men to serve in any particular way

The Biden administration is urging justices not to take the case and to let congress decide however

Whose side are you on?

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Umbreon
08/09/21 9:46:49 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
under current law, males who fail to register are banned from accessing federal student air or holding a government job and could be fined 250,000 or face 5 years in prison


This get rid of this bullshit entirely.

I'd rather no one be drafted then both men and women be drafted.

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nothanks1
08/09/21 9:47:04 PM
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sabrestorm
08/09/21 9:47:54 PM
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I say treat everyone equally
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hockeybub89
08/09/21 9:50:19 PM
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All or none, preferably none.

Republicans are just against this becuase they hate women. And apparently men too since it's ok for the government to force them into service.

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ThePrinceFish
08/09/21 9:52:23 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
Hawley said "Women have heroically served in and alongside America's fighting forces since our nation's founding. It's one thing to allow American women to choose this life, it's quite another to force it upon our daughters, sisters and wives. Missourians feel strongly that compelling women to serve is wrong and so do i"
Forcing women to fight bad
Forcing men to fight good

If you don't think women should be fighting in infantry divisions and seeing direct combat, fine, say that. But don't use this stupid ass hypocritical "it's okay to force it on men but forcing it on women? Wowee that's wrong"

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CommonStar
08/09/21 9:54:30 PM
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Personally, I don't think anybody should be drafted.
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FortuneCookie
08/09/21 9:54:40 PM
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This would have been an act of fascism if Republicans had done it.
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Shezarr
08/09/21 9:55:29 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
It's one thing to allow American women to choose this life, it's quite another to force it upon our daughters, sisters and wives. Missourians feel strongly that compelling women to serve is wrong and so do i"
So close to a revelation here

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metralo
08/09/21 10:03:55 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...


If you don't think women should be fighting in infantry divisions and seeing direct combat, fine, say that. But don't use this stupid ass hypocritical "it's okay to force it on men but forcing it on women? Wowee that's wrong"

its because they know they won't have to ever serve so they dont care that it effects men younger than them

plus conservatives want women to be nothing but housekeepers

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sabrestorm
08/10/21 3:18:18 AM
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CommonStar posted...
Personally, I don't think anybody should be drafted.

i dont think anyone ever will be unless there is another world war, registering means nothing, it just shows how many are available
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sabrestorm
08/10/21 3:19:57 AM
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sabrestorm posted...
I say treat everyone equally

its just registering, why worry?
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mooreandrew58
08/10/21 3:25:38 AM
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sabrestorm posted...
i dont think anyone ever will be unless there is another world war, registering means nothing, it just shows how many are available

This. In today's political climate it would take a do or die situation to activate a draft. It would be political suicide otherwise and even if they where already on the way out it would still hurt that partys chances of winning an election

Anyways I feel equality should come with all the pros and cons. Not just the pros.

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deoxxys
08/10/21 3:32:15 AM
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Only women should be drafted lol

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Reis
08/10/21 3:39:04 AM
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wtf we hate egalitarianism now?
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KStateKing17
08/10/21 3:56:58 AM
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These same bastards believe in choosing what to do with a woman's uterus. Josh Hawley specifically is an embarrassing piece of shit and the only good he serves is being the "truck nuts" to Jeff Bezos's rocket.

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Garioshi
08/10/21 3:58:49 AM
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Abolish the draft

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St0rmFury
08/10/21 4:16:48 AM
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Sons: "What are we, chopped liver?"

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008Zulu
08/10/21 4:25:44 AM
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Republicans are just mad that women will make Meal Team Six look bad.

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deoxxys
08/11/21 1:04:42 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Republicans are just against this becuase they hate women.


If anyone wants to try to actually understand the other side of the their political affliation and instead jump to immediately "must be because they hate women"....its probably more like reasons like "I dont want muh sweet daughter to go to war, she aint meant for that".

So its more likely that they embrace gender roles rather than a place of malice.

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VFrench2
08/11/21 1:17:38 AM
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Republicans are OUTRAGED

No, yeah, we know. Always.
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Payzmaykr
08/11/21 1:20:04 AM
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No draft. Im not fighting in a war unless its my decision.

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Trumble
08/11/21 1:31:54 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
All or none, preferably none.


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KamenRiderBlade
08/11/21 2:01:06 AM
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IF you're going to draft, it needs to be "EQUAL OPPORTUNITY" for everybody.

NO EXCEPTIONS because of Gender, Race, Age, Sexuality, Ethnicity, Disability, etc (List your criteria/factor here).

Everybody should be targetable if they are able bodied and can fight.

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nfearurspecimn
08/11/21 2:02:15 AM
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At the very least, women shouldn't be in danger of being drafted.

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mooreandrew58
08/11/21 6:26:42 AM
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deoxxys posted...
If anyone wants to try to actually understand the other side of the their political affliation and instead jump to immediately "must be because they hate women"....its probably more like reasons like "I dont want muh sweet daughter to go to war, she aint meant for that".

So its more likely that they embrace gender roles rather than a place of malice.

In this instance is agree it comes from a place of wanting to protect them.

I also agree its more they embrace gender roles just gender roles sometimes is negative. I actually knew a women who once she got off drugs subcribed to the idea women where to be subservient to men. Posted the shit on Facebook all the time. When she was on drugs though ive seem her smack her husband with a iron skillet cause she was tired of him getting drunk. I dont understand it.

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yemmy
08/11/21 6:36:00 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Republicans are just against this becuase they hate women.

They don't want them drafted because they hate them.

Makes a whole lot of sense when you look at it from a completely backwards and illogical perspective.

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wesastro911
08/11/21 8:08:59 AM
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There should be no draft and if there is then everyone should. A big reason so many young South Korean men have turned spiteful and misogynist towards women is because men have to serve in the military for 2 years while women can be already starting a career.

The whole physical nature difference argument is void too. There's a lot of military positions not focused on combat.

So all in or nothing should be only 2 choices. No draft because well screw nationalism anyways.
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wackyteen
08/11/21 8:15:04 AM
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Just abolish the draft.

Its political suicide to institute it and the future of warfare doesn't really include massive numbers of soldiers anyways.

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steveoSEK
08/11/21 8:17:57 AM
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They could try drafting me all they want(not that they would, I'm too old and fat), but I'd sooner take the prison time for refusing than actually go fight for this country.

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spikethedevil
08/11/21 8:24:51 AM
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Republicans say women already have a role BACK HOME and do not need to pick up arms to defend the country when men are suitable enough

So the Republicans think its 1951 and not 2021?

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steveoSEK
08/11/21 8:27:34 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Republicans say women already have a role BACK HOME and do not need to pick up arms to defend the country when men are suitable enough

So the Republicans think its 1951 and not 2021?
Uhh, have you not seen their beliefs and politics? Lol.

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creativerealms
08/11/21 8:28:37 AM
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The idea is NO military draft.

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mooreandrew58
08/11/21 8:34:10 AM
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creativerealms posted...
The idea is NO military draft.


As long as plenty enough people volunteer it will never be a problem. But some people like to shit on the idea the military does things to incentize joining.

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creativerealms
08/11/21 8:48:58 AM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
As long as plenty enough people volunteer it will never be a problem. But some people like to shit on the idea the military does things to incentize joining.
It should be pointed out that the people freaking out over their daughters being drafted are more likely in favor of the Draft existing anyway.

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MrMallard
08/11/21 8:51:59 AM
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Wait, hold on. When did America reinstate the draft?

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MutantJohn
08/11/21 8:52:19 AM
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Women can already enlist. Conscription must always exist. Fair, next.

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eston
08/11/21 8:54:41 AM
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Really I would prefer to do away with the draft entirely, but if we're going to have it then it makes no sense for it to be discriminatory. The vast majority of military jobs are non-combat anyway and women could fill most of those roles just fine

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mooreandrew58
08/11/21 1:36:19 PM
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MrMallard posted...
Wait, hold on. When did America reinstate the draft?

We never got rid of it. We just dont actively use it. Its pretty much kept for a "oh shit" moment.

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Nemu
08/11/21 1:37:26 PM
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The draft is completely pointless now anyway. If we get into a WWIII, we're not going to be relying on nearly as many ground troops.
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SSJPurple
08/11/21 1:39:04 PM
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No drafting at all. How about increase military benefits and get people to serve of their own free will.

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Relient_K
08/11/21 1:42:58 PM
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The draft sucks but I feel like it's a necessary evil in the event of large scale war or invaders. Women should not be excluded since it comes from the desire to "protect women", but women have things they want to protect too and it's rather condescending to say that they need to be protected like that.

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Lathissamus
08/11/21 1:43:02 PM
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I agree, women should not be drafted.

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Prismsblade
08/11/21 1:51:24 PM
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None of this even matters. Once the next major wars arrives against a serious threat like china for example all of these progressive policys, and think will be either thrown out of the window or outright ignored and uninforced.

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Sackgurl
08/11/21 1:52:52 PM
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Umbreon posted...
I'd rather no one be drafted then both men and women be drafted.

most likely the fastest way for no one to be drafted is for both men and women to be drafted

80 years of men being on the draft has certainly not produced any progress towards the draft being rescinded

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GGuirao13
08/11/21 2:35:54 PM
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End the draft completely.

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Master_Bass
08/11/21 2:38:03 PM
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Either get rid of it which would be ideal, or everyone has to sign up.

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Duncanwii
08/11/21 2:38:23 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
None of this even matters. Once the next major wars arrives against a serious threat like china for example all of these progressive policys, and think will be either thrown out of the window or outright ignored and uninforced.

You're right, but not for the reason you think. In a real conflict between America and China nukes will be used and then nothing we do will matter.
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Prismsblade
08/11/21 3:06:44 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
You're right, but not for the reason you think. In a real conflict between America and China nukes will be used and then nothing we do will matter.
I guess so if both country's world leaders just skip straight to their ultimate atk rather then a escalating war over the months or years that inevitably forces one of or both of their hands.

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