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Alucard188
08/08/21 5:27:38 PM
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I decided to pick up from where I left my Hero of Ferelden - an Elf mage who's a bit of a goody goody - at the end of the main story, as I had a save there and never really went through the post-game DLC content on my own.

Awakening was good for around 20 hours of content, and felt like more of the usual stuff from Origins, though it lacked the substance and nuance that I'd come to expect from Origins. I got to meet Anders for the first time, befriend a possessed walking corpse, a dead dwarf that isn't ready to die yet, an elf that ought to die (she gets there eventually), a disgraced noble, and a lecher of an old friend. Interestingly enough, they all survive the joining. Remarkable success rate. My Warden Commander ought to recruit more people more often.

The story was confusing at first, but after doing some digging around, found that the answers were found in other stories that were written about the series. I wish games wouldn't do cross-media information dumps like that. Would have been good to know what The Architect and what The Mother was though the context of the game, and not need to read one of the Dragon Age books. You eventually get there for The Mother, but you know nothing about the Architect, except for why he's trying to do what he's doing.

Yeah, that's a no from me, dawg. I'm not letting you use Warden blood to give the Darkspawn self-actualisation. These fuckers are poison to humans and breed like rabbits. You already saw what happened with The Mother - the Broodmother that you experimented on and turned crazy. There's no "greater good" here. You die, and The Mother dies. Sucks about Velanna's sister, though. At least Amaranthine was spared, and I only lost Velanna to the assault.

Golems of Amgarrak is bullshit, but at least it's short. I went in with a level 35 warden. The game only gives you a level 20 warden if you don't import a character? The fuck? Good luck defeating anything there with no real mage unless you spec a mage.

Witchhunt is a weak end to the game, but at least it allows you to infer future events, and shows that Bioware was at least shaping the idea for future games in the series (the Eluvian, Morrigan saying that Flemeth isn't even human, etc.). It was short and devoid of anything that grabbed your interest. I'm glad it was so short, because I was ready to be done with the game.

On to Dragon Age 2. I beat the game before when it first released, but didn't do any of the expansion shit because fuck that game at release. I was so let down by just how shallow it was in comparison to Origins. Now that my expectations of Bioware have lowered significantly, maybe I'll appreciate the game more.

I'm going with a female Hawke mage this time, to counter the male warrior Hawke I played last time. The only reason I went male Hawke last time was so Bethany wouldn't die (fuck Carver, the petulant little brat).

The combat still feels like it lacks substance, and the options for companions are still shallow as fuck. That's alright, though. I've already come to terms with the game being inferior to Origins from a gameplay perspective, and I imagine that the story perspective will fall similarly. I appreciate what they were going with, though. You give the characters unique appearances to build off of. I like that. Why should my chesty Isabela have to wear a common leather jerkin like the rest of the rogues?

The thing that already bothers me about the story is how the inter-chapter vignettes sound like they contain interesting things, but they don't get expanded on. You have a solid year between the prologue and chapter 1, and they could have used this to flesh out some of the relationships and give weight to what drives you in chapter 1. I can't remember how male Hawke happens, but the Templars are after you as female Hawke, presumably because they caught wind of an apostate mage working unfettered in the city. Missed opportunity to show this friction building.

Then again, I keep having to remind myself that the story that's being told here is being told from Varric's narrative. He wouldn't have first hand knowledge or even intrinsic knowledge on things unless he saw them himself, or they were told to him by Hawke. Still, there had to have been something told in that first year that would have built Hawke up. I mean, Varric outright says that Hawke's name is on the lips of many people in his circles, so he had to have known something about her exploits. Missed opportunity.

I'm also not a big fan of how hard the game tries to push the "Hawke is special" thing. Even Flemeth gets in on the act, wondering if it's chance or fate that led to their crossing. "Hurtled into the chaos you fight... and the world will shake before you." Certainly sounds pre-destined. I hate the idea of stories propped up by story planners that don't show how a hero becomes as they are. Varric gets into the act as well with his whole "Hawke's name is on many lips these days." thing when you first meet him. What is so special about Hawke that makes her special and others not? Charm? Grace? Fortitude? Cunning? A unique blend of all those attributes? I don't think the game ever elaborates on that other than "This is what happens. Praise Hawke."

At least with the DLC we'll find out why Cassandra really wants to find the Champion of Kirkwall, what with how Corypheus is involved with both Kirkwall and Orlais.

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Funkydog
08/08/21 5:30:25 PM
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I will forever be sad for what DA2 could've been if not for EA. I still love it though and it has some of my favourite characters of the series in it.

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Atralis
08/08/21 5:43:24 PM
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If you are comfortable with mods:
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonage2/mods/3981
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UnholyMudcrab
08/08/21 5:44:58 PM
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Oh boy, talking about Dragon Age is like my favorite thing ever

Alucard188 posted...
The story was confusing at first, but after doing some digging around, found that the answers were found in other stories that were written about the series. I wish games wouldn't do cross-media information dumps like that. Would have been good to know what The Architect and what The Mother was though the context of the game, and not need to read one of the Dragon Age books. You eventually get there for The Mother, but you know nothing about the Architect, except for why he's trying to do what he's doing.
Wicked Eyes, Wicked Hearts in DAI is pretty bad about this, too. Nearly all the information about Celene, Gaspard, and Briala is in a book that it really seems that they expected you to read beforehand. You get a very surface-level idea about the players involved if you don't read it.

Alucard188 posted...
Yeah, that's a no from me, dawg. I'm not letting you use Warden blood to give the Darkspawn self-actualisation. These fuckers are poison to humans and breed like rabbits. You already saw what happened with The Mother - the Broodmother that you experimented on and turned crazy. There's no "greater good" here. You die, and The Mother dies. Sucks about Velanna's sister, though. At least Amaranthine was spared, and I only lost Velanna to the assault.
I spared the Architect for two reasons. My Warden is really, really keen on ending the Calling so she doesn't have to march off to the Deep Roads. She let Avernus continue his research for the same reason. Also, from a more pragmatic stance, if the Architect is anything at all like Corypheus, he can probably resurrect into the body of a nearby darkspawn, or his dwarven bodyguard (Utha, I think her name was?). I'm not certain that killing him would really do anything except make him irritated at you.

Alucard188 posted...
Witchhunt is a weak end to the game, but at least it allows you to infer future events, and shows that Bioware was at least shaping the idea for future games in the series (the Eluvian, Morrigan saying that Flemeth isn't even human, etc.). It was short and devoid of anything that grabbed your interest. I'm glad it was so short, because I was ready to be done with the game.
Yeah, I pretty much felt the same way. I skipped through most of the dialogue and finished it in about an hour and a half. The encounter with Morrigan didn't make a whole lot of sense, because the Warden and her were pretty much sisters, and now she's suddenly being treated with suspicion and near-hostility.

Alucard188 posted...
The combat still feels like it lacks substance, and the options for companions is still shallow as fuck. That's alright, though. I've already come to terms with the game being inferior to Origins from a gameplay perspective, and I imagine that the story perspective will fall similarly.
Personally, I think DA2 has the best combat in the series, but I can understand why someone would feel differently. The wave spawning in particular is highly, highly annoying and throws any kind of positioning tactics completely out the window.

Alucard188 posted...
I'm also not a big fan of how hard the game tries to push the "Hawke is special" thing. Even Flemeth gets in on the act, wondering if it's chance or fate that led to their crossing. "Hurtled into the chaos you fight... and the world will shake before you." Certainly sounds pre-destined. I hate the idea of stories propped up by story planners that don't show how a hero becomes as they are. Varric gets into the act as well with his whole "Hawke's name is on many lips these days." thing when you first meet him. What is so special about Hawke that makes her special and others not? Charm? Grace? Fortitude? Cunning? A unique blend of all those attributes? I don't think the game ever elaborates on that other than "This is what happens. Praise Hawke."
I dunno, I'm kind of inclined to argue the opposite here. Hawke is trying her absolute damnedest to save Kirkwall, but the city falls apart even so. I kinda think the fandom reads too much into Flemeth's prophecy talk when they meet, but that's just me.

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UnfairRepresent
08/08/21 5:48:28 PM
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In fairness Flemeth knew the Warden was important too

But yeah she was better in Origins

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Funkydog
08/08/21 5:51:06 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
I dunno, I'm kind of inclined to argue the opposite here. Hawke is trying her absolute damnedest to save Kirkwall, but the city falls apart even so. I kinda think the fandom reads too much into Flemeth's prophecy talk when they meet, but that's just me.
Yeah, I feel similar. Hawke wasn't special, they were just someone stuck in a situation constantly threatening to boil over at the slightest nudge and ultimately just happened to be in the right place. Flemeth was also essentially just using Hawke for her own ends as well and not entirely sure was more to it that that.

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UnholyMudcrab
08/08/21 5:57:33 PM
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You could argue that a mage Hawke is special in that they're getting unique treatment from the templars and not just being hauled off to the Circle, but I'm not sure how much of that is an actual part of the plot and how much is the segregation of gameplay and story

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UnfairRepresent
08/08/21 6:00:13 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
You could argue that a mage Hawke is special in that they're getting unique treatment from the templars and not just being hauled off to the Circle, but I'm not sure how much of that is an actual part of the plot and how much is the segregation of gameplay and story
They also make his dad super important for no reason beyond "Da bloodline!!!"

I hate that shit

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MabusIncarnate
08/08/21 6:03:07 PM
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Is Inquisition worth playing? I played and liked the first two, I remember trying Inquisition when it first came out, kind of remember it not looking or playing all that great, but I might have just been in one of those moods also.

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Funkydog
08/08/21 6:05:02 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
Is Inquisition worth playing? I played and liked the first two, I remember trying Inquisition when it first came out, kind of remember it not looking or playing all that great, but I might have just been in one of those moods also.
I would say so. The villain might be weaker, but it has a decent plot and fantastic characters, and some of Bioware's best DLC. It does have a lot of fetch/pointless MMO style quests, but they can largely just be ignored to no consequence.

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UnfairRepresent
08/08/21 6:06:49 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
Is Inquisition worth playing? I played and liked the first two, I remember trying Inquisition when it first came out, kind of remember it not looking or playing all that great, but I might have just been in one of those moods also.
Yes

better than 2, worse than origins

Lots of tedious side quests and typical bioware Jank

but it's still a great game

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UnholyMudcrab
08/08/21 6:06:54 PM
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I will always recommend Inquisition, with the reminder that you don't need to do everything in all the areas. A lot of people try to be completionists and burn out because of it.

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UnholyMudcrab
08/08/21 6:16:05 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
They also make his dad super important for no reason beyond "Da bloodline!!!"

I hate that shit
Could you expand on that?

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Alucard188
08/08/21 6:16:21 PM
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Now I'm having trouble trying to decide what type of Hawke I want her to be. My male Hawke was equal parts whimsical and earnest, so I thought I'd make my female Hawke a bit more ruthless and sarcastic. Paragon vs renegade and all that. The choices in that route so far are just her being an asshole.


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UnfairRepresent
08/08/21 6:21:49 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Could you expand on that?
I don't like stories that are about people being special not because of what they do or how they think but because of who their dad or ancestor was, and the idea that they are special because of or responsible for the actions of other people

"Only your blood can break the seal, use the sword "

it's just shit, Fable was terrible for this too

And yes I know Origins does just that but at least there it's for political points

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UnholyMudcrab
08/08/21 6:23:59 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
Now I'm having trouble trying to decide what type of Hawke I want her to be. My male Hawke was equal parts whimsical and earnest, so I thought I'd make my female Hawke a bit more ruthless and sarcastic. Paragon vs renegade and all that. The choices in that route so far are just her being an asshole.
I typically play Hawke as mostly blue with some purple thrown in at good opportunities. Purple Hawke can be astoundingly poor at reading the room sometimes. Some people like that, but I was never really a fan. Never did Red Hawke. That's just not the kind of character I like to play.

UnfairRepresent posted...
I don't like stories that are about people being special not because of what they do or how they think but because of who their dad or ancestor was, and the idea that they are special because of or responsible for the actions of other people

"Only your blood can break the seal, use the sword "

it's just shit, Fable was terrible for this too

And yes I know Origins does just that but at least there it's for political points
Oh. Yeah, I can understand that, but it does at least make sense in the story given that blood magic was involved.

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Darmik
08/08/21 6:24:41 PM
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They definitely intended Hawke to be a long term thing. Probably wanted him to be like Shepard.

Also the DLC for 2 is definitely worth playing. The DLC for both 2 and Inquisition are better than the base game. Probably because Bioware knew what the issues were with both of those games but were able to be more flexible making the DLC.

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UnfairRepresent
08/08/21 6:25:59 PM
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I wouldn't say either DLC is better than the base game despite being good.

Christ DA2's DLC largely takes place in a generic castle and generic Deep Rhodes fighting generic enemies through generic corridors..

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Ps2Twilight
08/08/21 6:40:01 PM
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UnholyMudcrab
08/08/21 6:46:55 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
The only reason I went male Hawke last time was so Bethany wouldn't die (fuck Carver, the petulant little brat).
Oh, I just noticed this. The surviving sibling is based on Hawke's class, not their gender. Warrior and rogue Hawkes get Bethany, while mage Hawkes get Carver.

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Alucard188
08/08/21 6:56:12 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
I typically play Hawke as mostly blue with some purple thrown in at good opportunities. Purple Hawke can be astoundingly poor at reading the room sometimes. Some people like that, but I was never really a fan. Never did Red Hawke. That's just not the kind of character I like to play.

Judging from the responses that Hawke's given so far, red Hawke is more curt, aggressive, and to the point. An agitator, if you will. I want some of that aggressiveness when the situation demands it, but also yeah, read the room, Hawke. A smidge of benevolence won't hurt you too hard, will it?

UnholyMudcrab posted...
Oh, I just noticed this. The surviving sibling is based on Hawke's class, not their gender. Warrior and rogue Hawkes get Bethany, while mage Hawkes get Carver.

Ah. Thought it was based on their sex, because male and female. Stories love their parallels like that. Makes more sense that it would be based on class, just so you're not stuck with no mages until you get Merril.

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Atralis
08/08/21 7:18:46 PM
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I actually liked DA 2 though admittedly I went in with lower expectations because I didn't have time to play it until a lot of the mediocre reviews and reactions had come out. I treated it like a side story set in the Dragon Age universe and I enjoyed it.

I liked seeing the Qunari, and mage/templar stuff fleshed out more and I liked sarcastic Hawke and Varric's broship (my first run I was a male two handed sword reaver which was fun with ability spam and hyper attack speed).
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Alucard188
08/08/21 9:09:12 PM
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Ah, the future of gaming: using a front end (GOG Galaxy) to launch another front end (Steam), to launch a 3rd front end (Origin), so you can play a game. I really miss just having a game installed and that was it.

See, Carver? Even Aveline knows you're a giant weiner baby.

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Alucard188
08/08/21 10:55:23 PM
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I'm liking the friction of sibling rivalry between Carver and Hawke. He's always chafing under the elder one being in the spotlight, and is resentful of it. At least there are layers to it. My Hawke isn't coddling him, and can be supportive at times.

Also, Gamlen is late-stage Carver at this rate. What a bitter, resentful asshole. I have no problems being waspish with him. Leandra gets a bit more of a soothing balm, but still sharp at times. Carver gets less slack.

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MabusIncarnate
08/09/21 2:02:46 AM
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Gonna give Inquisition another chance right now, i'll check back.

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UnholyMudcrab
08/09/21 2:32:37 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
I'm liking the friction of sibling rivalry between Carver and Hawke. He's always chafing under the elder one being in the spotlight, and is resentful of it. At least there are layers to it. My Hawke isn't coddling him, and can be supportive at times.

Also, Gamlen is late-stage Carver at this rate. What a bitter, resentful asshole. I have no problems being waspish with him. Leandra gets a bit more of a soothing balm, but still sharp at times. Carver gets less slack.
I think the dynamic between Hawke and Carver is a lot more interesting than with Bethany. He's buried under all the magic in the family and feels he has nothing in common with any of them and can't measure up. It's got an extra layer if the Hero of Ferelden was a human mage, too, since that's yet another member of the family who's a mage, and they're one of the most powerful people in the world to boot.

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UnfairRepresent
08/09/21 3:53:55 AM
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yeah Carver is underrated

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Pitlord_Special
08/09/21 4:33:46 AM
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I liked Dragon Age 2 a lot better the second time around when I didn't take it seriously and tried to make it as ridiculous as possible. Rolled with Warrior Hawke (male, usually silly, sometimes mean while taking a good number of opportunities for the murder knife) then Varric, Isabel, and Anders for party members.

It was low-key one of the funniest games I've played.

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Alucard188
08/09/21 11:10:55 PM
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I just met Fenris. I remember him a rather crude and cold character, and didn't really use him much as warrior Hawke (2h fighters are kind of redundant to pair up). I'll probably end up using him more once Carver's gone away.

One thing that irritates me is that little strip of screen space at the bottom of the UI that separates your hotkey functions from the rest of the screen space. It's there primarily to show you just how much XP you need to level. Do you _really_ have that much contempt for your audience that you think they wouldn't know how to check how much XP there is remaining? I want to get rid of it. I wonder if there's an option I can toggle.

Fenris: I do not fear death, but that does not mean we should be reckless.
Also Fenris: *loudly announces his presence to the Tevinter Magister when entering the building*

Ok, Fenris.

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UnholyMudcrab
08/09/21 11:47:29 PM
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I don't take Fenris with me much, since I tend to play Hawke as a borderline-radical mage. They don't exactly see eye to eye on things.

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Alucard188
08/10/21 12:06:46 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
I don't take Fenris with me much, since I tend to play Hawke as a borderline-radical mage. They don't exactly see eye to eye on things.

Stick him in the party long enough to build up rivalry.

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UnholyMudcrab
08/10/21 2:42:12 AM
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Yeah, that's true, but I still kinda find it difficult bringing myself to rival companions.

And Aveline is better at tanking anyway.

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Alucard188
08/10/21 9:34:15 PM
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I just met Anders and recruited him into my party. I get that people are upset by his change in personality from Awakening to DA2, but I get it. I totally get it. The assault on Vigil's Keep had to have changed him. I can definitely see a more brooding and introspective person emerging from that. Then they made him give away the only thing that gave him comfort - his god damn cat.

In my Awakening game, Justice stayed inside of the dead Warden's body until his wife could no longer take the decomposition, so he left his host and found a new one. Every ending for Justice had him leaving his host by one way or another. No surprise that he'd find a kindred spirit in Anders. I mean, Anders was a little more selfish and self-serving in Awakening, but he always hated the yoke of oppression.

Also, what the fuck, modders on Nexus Mods? You made a mod that turned Isabela white? The fuck is wrong with you?

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UnholyMudcrab
08/10/21 11:41:45 PM
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Anders was much more interesting in DA2. In Awakening, his jokey comments kinda just made him feel like a poor man's Alistair. That, and by the end of Awakening, the party ran out of banter lines, and he just started telling Velanna how attractive he found tattoos every time there was any banter. I was tired of it by the end.

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Funkydog
08/11/21 7:36:19 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
Also, what the fuck, modders on Nexus Mods? You made a mod that turned Isabela white? The fuck is wrong with you?
Damn that's dumb. I knew their were mods to give her her appearance she had in 2 in the original, but didn't realise were racists doing what you said.

Alucard188 posted...
I get that people are upset by his change in personality from Awakening to DA2, but I get it. I totally get it.

Never really got people's issues either myself. He went through a lot and now had a spirit of Justice inside of him. He had many talks with Justice about doing something for the mages as well in Awakening, rather than just bitching. So not sure what people expected when Justice resided inside of him.

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Alucard188
08/11/21 8:33:32 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Anders was much more interesting in DA2. In Awakening, his jokey comments kinda just made him feel like a poor man's Alistair. That, and by the end of Awakening, the party ran out of banter lines, and he just started telling Velanna how attractive he found tattoos every time there was any banter. I was tired of it by the end.

The Alistair line is 100% accurate. It felt like they tried to retread all of Origins party members with their Awakening counterparts, down to some of their 'get ready' poses when you select them in party selection menus.

Funkydog posted...
Damn that's dumb. I knew their were mods to give her her appearance she had in 2 in the original, but didn't realise were racists doing what you said.

The whitewashing racist aspect of it aside, she's a beautiful bronze goddess. Why the fuck would you mess with that?

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Funkydog
08/11/21 12:43:17 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
The whitewashing racist aspect of it aside, she's a beautiful bronze goddess. Why the fuck would you mess with that?
For real.

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UnholyMudcrab
08/11/21 12:54:02 PM
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Funkydog posted...
Never really got people's issues either myself. He went through a lot and now had a spirit of Justice inside of him. He had many talks with Justice about doing something for the mages as well in Awakening, rather than just bitching. So not sure what people expected when Justice resided inside of him.

More than that, his hatred of templars and anger about the plight of mages are actively corrupting Justice, to the point that you can talk a rivaled Anders out of his big plan, but Justice takes over and forces him to go through with it.
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Funkydog
08/11/21 1:35:20 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
More than that, his hatred of templars and anger about the plight of mages are actively corrupting Justice, to the point that you can talk a rivaled Anders out of his big plan, but Justice takes over and forces him to go through with it.
Vengeance at that point, but yeah. One reason why I much prefer rivalling Anders tbh. Lots of the Rival friendships actually make the character grow rather than coddle them from what I remember.

Anders was fucked the moment he let Justice in as it changed them both. He wasn't the Anders we knew at that point and Justice was no longer Justice as was now mixed with human emotion. Expecting them to be the same misses the point/danger of what they did.

Something Solas goes into from what I remember in Inquisition as well.

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Alucard188
08/11/21 1:55:44 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
More than that, his hatred of templars and anger about the plight of mages are actively corrupting Justice, to the point that you can talk a rivaled Anders out of his big plan, but Justice takes over and forces him to go through with it.

At the point where Justice and Anders joined, Justice was almost immediately corrupted by the pent-up resentment and anger towards Templars that Anders carried. He long since stopped being Justice, and became an aspect of vengeance instead. I love that character development.

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UnholyMudcrab
08/11/21 8:08:16 PM
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DrizztLink
08/11/21 8:13:10 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
Interestingly enough, they all survive the joining. Remarkable success rate. My Warden Commander ought to recruit more people more often.
You did lose that one at the beginning, who I swore to God was Samantha Traynor.

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UnholyMudcrab
08/11/21 8:16:39 PM
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You did lose that one at the beginning, who I swore to God was Samantha Traynor.
She was, yeah. She also voices the British accent for a female Inky

I wish she'd survived. It would have been nice to have had a willing and eager recruit to contrast with everyone else. If someone needed to die, maybe fucking Oghren could have died instead.

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DrizztLink
08/11/21 8:19:44 PM
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Agreed, so goddamn tired of Ohgren.

But he's better than the fucking Dalish terrorist.

She is Traynor?

I think I mixed this up with the Scarlett DLC for Borderlands 2, I definitely thought she was Traynor and wasn't.

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Darmik
08/11/21 8:20:53 PM
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Yeah I overall liked how they handled Anders. It was nice to actually have a Bioware character with motivations that go outside of being a lapdog for the main character who asks them nicely to help out with a personal issue but only if they have spare time.

Thinking about it I think this is one thing Dragon Age has over Mass Effect. Each game has at least one party member who has their own major motivations that may conflict with what your goal is.

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UnholyMudcrab
08/11/21 8:22:26 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
She is Traynor?

Alix Wilton Regan is the VA

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Funkydog
08/11/21 8:27:23 PM
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She is Traynor?
Alix Wilton Regan, yeah. I didn't mind Oghren myself, but were better choices if had to bring an old companion back.

Shale for instance!

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UnholyMudcrab
08/11/21 8:32:07 PM
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Darmik posted...
Thinking about it I think this is one thing Dragon Age has over Mass Effect. Each game has at least one party member who has their own major motivations that may conflict with what your goal is.
On the other hand, they're 3-for-3 in the "mage party member with ulterior motives" department. That one is perhaps getting a little old.

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Funkydog
08/11/21 8:35:55 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
On the other hand, they're 3-for-3 in the "mage party member with ulterior motives" department. That one is perhaps getting a little old.
4 will see the usual several of them with ulterior motives save for the mage who will be upfront and completely honest

And then prove to be a liar in the DLC.

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Alucard188
08/11/21 8:41:50 PM
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Funkydog posted...
4 will see the usual several of them with ulterior motives save for the mage who will be upfront and completely honest

And then prove to be a liar in the DLC.

We're heading to Tevinter. _Every_ mage has ulterior motives. I'm excited to see what they do with the story, despite my misgivings with how the company has handled its shit in the recent past. They left Inquisition with a stupid huge cliffhanger, and we get a new MC to play around with.

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