Current Events > Who do you think is or was the greater game creator, kojima or miyamoto?

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UT1999 08/07/21 1:47:38 PM #1:	Who is greater? kojima shigeru miyamoto don't care for either one of them Who is greater? - Results (45 votes) kojima 31.11% (14 votes) 14 shigeru miyamoto 62.22% (28 votes) 28 don't care for either one of them 6.67% (3 votes) 3 eh? --- "Sometimes they even attack wounded foxes" <cite>UT1999 posted [p:956866296] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote> Who is greater? kojima shigeru miyamoto don't care for either one of them Vote View Results Who is greater? - Results (45 votes) kojima 31.11% (14 votes) 14 shigeru miyamoto 62.22% (28 votes) 28 don't care for either one of them 6.67% (3 votes) 3 Show Voting Form eh? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AloneIBreak 08/07/21 1:48:11 PM #2:	I probably prefer MGS to Mario, but Im going to go with Miyamoto anyway. --- CE's friendly neighborhood rationalist. <cite>AloneIBreak posted [p:956866313] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>I probably prefer MGS to Mario, but Im going to go with Miyamoto anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CRON 08/07/21 1:48:52 PM #3:	Miyamoto is a better game designer. Kojima is a better writer. --- [obligatory signature] <cite>CRON posted [p:956866335] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>Miyamoto is a better game designer. Kojima is a better writer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UT1999 08/07/21 1:49:56 PM #4:	CRON posted... Miyamoto is a better game designer. Kojima is a better writer. doesn't kojima do a lot of the level design or did,in the mgs games? --- "Sometimes they even attack wounded foxes" <cite>UT1999 posted [p:956866354] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>CRON posted... </cite> <quote>Miyamoto is a better game designer. Kojima is a better writer.</quote>doesn't kojima do a lot of the level design or did,in the mgs games? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 08/07/21 1:51:26 PM #5:	CRON posted... Miyamoto is a better game designer. Kojima is a better writer. I thought Miyamoto was simply a character artist and producer (albeit a highly influential one), not a game designer? --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:956866388] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>CRON posted... </cite> <quote>Miyamoto is a better game designer. Kojima is a better writer.</quote> I thought Miyamoto was simply a character artist and producer (albeit a highly influential one), not a game designer? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShyOx 08/07/21 1:52:17 PM #6:	Without Miyamoto there isn't really a Kojima as there probably isn't a gaming industry as we know it for a while longer, the entire trajectory changes. Nintendo succeeded on the back of Mario and LoZ, and they have been the biggest titles for the systems. Meanwhile Kojima firmly elevated games into the art realm in a way no one had ever done before MGS. Once again it probably takes a serious trajectory change without MGS on the stage, but not as big as if Miyamoto hadn't existed. --- http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6938/vyqp.jpg DIPLOMACY <cite>ShyOx posted [p:956866405] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>Without Miyamoto there isn't really a Kojima as there probably isn't a gaming industry as we know it for a while longer, the entire trajectory changes. Nintendo succeeded on the back of Mario and LoZ, and they have been the biggest titles for the systems. Meanwhile Kojima firmly elevated games into the art realm in a way no one had ever done before MGS. Once again it probably takes a serious trajectory change without MGS on the stage, but not as big as if Miyamoto hadn't existed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nothanks1 08/07/21 1:53:15 PM #7:	Kojima 'failed movie director' is a hack <cite>nothanks1 posted [p:956866428] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>Kojima 'failed movie director' is a hack</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimiHendrix 08/07/21 1:53:34 PM #8:	AloneIBreak posted... I probably prefer MGS to Mario, but Im going to go with Miyamoto anyway. <cite>JimiHendrix posted [p:956866437] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>AloneIBreak posted... </cite> <quote>I probably prefer MGS to Mario, but Im going to go with Miyamoto anyway.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamerguymass 08/07/21 1:56:23 PM #9:	Anyone that actually needs to ask this clearly doesn't know much about the industry. --- Now Playing: "The Hunt for the Two Missing Nintendo 64 Games" An expansion came out, but I'm still a third of the way through! <cite>Gamerguymass posted [p:956866507] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>Anyone that actually needs to ask this clearly doesn't know much about the industry. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 08/07/21 1:57:04 PM #10:	CRON posted... Miyamoto is a better game designer. Kojima is a better writer. --- https://imgur.com/olOXz6h https://imgur.com/kaFczn3 <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:956866520] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>CRON posted... </cite> <quote>Miyamoto is a better game designer. Kojima is a better writer.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 08/07/21 1:58:02 PM #11:	All I know is the ending of MGS2 is damn near prophetic. --- https://imgur.com/olOXz6h https://imgur.com/kaFczn3 <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:956866543] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>All I know is the ending of MGS2 is damn near prophetic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UT1999 08/07/21 1:58:38 PM #12:	Lathissamus posted... All I know is the ending of MGS2 is damn near prophetic. how so? --- "Sometimes they even attack wounded foxes" <cite>UT1999 posted [p:956866557] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>Lathissamus posted... </cite> <quote>All I know is the ending of MGS2 is damn near prophetic.</quote>how so? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R1masher 08/07/21 1:59:35 PM #13:	Hidetaka Miyazaki --- R1R1R1R1R1R1 <cite>R1masher posted [p:956866584] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>Hidetaka Miyazaki </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 08/07/21 2:03:38 PM #14:	is this a fucking joke? Kojima is nothing compared to Miyamoto. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:956866692] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>is this a fucking joke? Kojima is nothing compared to Miyamoto. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Winrawr 08/07/21 2:04:25 PM #15:	both of them are phenomenal and it makes me sad people need to always have such bipolar opinions on things. that said, kojima brought cinematics and storytelling to the forefront of the video game medium which , while probably overdone in mgs4, was incredible in mgs3 and mgs2 and mgs1. some of the ideas about how the information age makes me people act insane are really interesting miyamoto's games are far less creative, imo but his games really changed platforming mechanics forever. His games also greatly improved the 3d camera. His name is kind of slapped on everything made by nintendo, which makes me question how much stuff from his games is directly from his influence. That said, his catalogue of games is legendary and I think he takes the win for most people. I think Kojima is just more creative artist, and miyamoto is excellent at execution and developing proper game mechanics. With the next game by Kojima I know it will be story driven and esotetic, unique, and no one else will make a game like him. With miyamoto, it'l be a well-polished mario game, and idk that just doesn't excite me that much. platformers, imo, aren't a terribly interesting genre. <cite>Winrawr posted [p:956866713] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>both of them are phenomenal and it makes me sad people need to always have such bipolar opinions on things. that said, kojima brought cinematics and storytelling to the forefront of the video game medium which , while probably overdone in mgs4, was incredible in mgs3 and mgs2 and mgs1. some of the ideas about how the information age makes me people act insane are really interesting miyamoto's games are far less creative, imo but his games really changed platforming mechanics forever. His games also greatly improved the 3d camera. His name is kind of slapped on everything made by nintendo, which makes me question how much stuff from his games is directly from his influence. That said, his catalogue of games is legendary and I think he takes the win for most people. I think Kojima is just more creative artist, and miyamoto is excellent at execution and developing proper game mechanics. With the next game by Kojima I know it will be story driven and esotetic, unique, and no one else will make a game like him. With miyamoto, it'l be a well-polished mario game, and idk that just doesn't excite me that much. platformers, imo, aren't a terribly interesting genre. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 08/07/21 2:12:59 PM #16:	Kojima is a pioneer who worked laboriously both in the Miyamoto golden age (on the original Metal Gear) as well as the dawn of the polygon (on Metal Gear Solid) ~ helping to bring games into a more serious light. Its like comparing Table Tennis to Volleyball. Theyre really apples & oranges, but one clearly has a certain edge in terms of greatness. The goal was never to stop at games. The goal is simulated reality. That will never change. <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:956866942] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>Kojima is a pioneer who worked laboriously both in the Miyamoto golden age (on the original Metal Gear) as well as the dawn of the polygon (on Metal Gear Solid) ~ helping to bring games into a more serious light. Its like comparing Table Tennis to Volleyball. Theyre really apples & oranges, but one clearly has a certain edge in terms of greatness. The goal was never to stop at games. The goal is simulated reality. That will never change. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mist_Turnips 08/07/21 2:17:03 PM #17:	Miyamoto and it's not even close. Kojima is a hack. --- "They say if you don't hide your belly button, lightning could take it away from you! What would happen if it did?" https://imgur.com/G74y2NJ <cite>Mist_Turnips posted [p:956867026] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>Miyamoto and it's not even close. Kojima is a hack.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRadiant 08/07/21 2:18:04 PM #18:	Kojima is overrated as fuck --- She/her <cite>TheRadiant posted [p:956867044] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>Kojima is overrated as fuck </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 08/07/21 2:25:58 PM #19:	Hell, even current Kojima > Miyamoto --- S / K / Y / N / E <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:956867238] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>Hell, even current Kojima > Miyamoto </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 08/07/21 2:28:50 PM #20:	UT1999 posted... how so? It predicted the proliferation of garbage information and the creation of political echo chambers back in 2001 when it came out. The relevant bit is from where it starts till about 5 minutes in or so. https://youtu.be/eKl6WjfDqYA?t=139 --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:956867317] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>UT1999 posted... </cite> <quote>how so?</quote>It predicted the proliferation of garbage information and the creation of political echo chambers back in 2001 when it came out. The relevant bit is from where it starts till about 5 minutes in or so. https://youtu.be/eKl6WjfDqYA?t=139 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 08/07/21 2:31:45 PM #21:	They're both great, but it's hard to deny that Kojima elevated gaming to a whole new artistic and cinematic level with MGS1. Hell, even MG2 Solid Snake had an insanely detailed narrative for the time, with a lot to say about geopolitics of the time. --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:956867403] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>They're both great, but it's hard to deny that Kojima elevated gaming to a whole new artistic and cinematic level with MGS1. Hell, even MG2 Solid Snake had an insanely detailed narrative for the time, with a lot to say about geopolitics of the time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
One_Day_Remains 08/07/21 2:32:53 PM #22:	ShyOx posted... Without Miyamoto there isn't really a Kojima Irrelevant --- Ten sounds sound like bloated constipated arena rock - GhettoFlip <cite>One_Day_Remains posted [p:956867434] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>ShyOx posted...</cite> <quote>Without Miyamoto there isn't really a Kojima </quote> Irrelevant</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Astardes 08/07/21 2:35:41 PM #23:	Kojima is one of the most overrated game directors ever --- i15 79420K \| GTRadeon 58290 Ti \| 2 TB 9600 MHz RAM \| 128 TB SSD <cite>Astardes posted [p:956867521] in Who do you... [t:79602999]...</cite> <quote>Kojima is one of the most overrated game directors ever </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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