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finalbossfight
08/07/21 1:47:37 PM
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But are tolerant of those who say God is real?

seems like people are just wanting to keep their mental peace and think God is some sort of "genie"

and inb4 atheists try to derail the thread. this isn't a pedantic debate about wether god is real, just about people's responses
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HylianFox
08/07/21 1:54:00 PM
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The devil is in the details

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R1masher
08/07/21 1:58:00 PM
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You know who has hands? The devil, and he uses them to hold things

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DeadBankerDream
08/07/21 1:59:04 PM
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Is tc an alt that shits its pants with incoherence and nonsense and then swings said pants wildly through the topic?

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WingsOfGood
08/07/21 2:07:23 PM
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People also get upset when you sat Nazis still exist.
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Lil_Bit83
08/07/21 2:10:30 PM
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its not that I'm mad at them for that, its that some of them will use it as an excuse to blame everything bad that happens to them, or to treat people who aren't like them poorly that annoys me.

Oh the devil is out to get me! My car isn't working right.

Uh no, your car is nearly 20 years old, and the people you bring it to overcharge you and screw you over.

I won't go to that restaurant anymore, they have a Buddha statue, and they're devil worshippers.

It means they're Buddhists and your just being a judgemental ignoramus.

Yes. I am citing real conversations I've had with one of my relatives.

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BilalPowell
08/07/21 2:11:18 PM
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because the devil is the Lord Voldemort of Christianity

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Ricemills
08/07/21 2:13:33 PM
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i honestly never met anyone who get mad at someone who said that the devil is real.
Satan is in the Bible. denying it means also denying the Holy scripture.

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HylianFox
08/07/21 2:14:22 PM
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BilalPowell posted...
because the devil is the Lord Voldemort of Christianity

so he has no nose?

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Jabodie
08/07/21 2:14:42 PM
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It probably has to do with classifying beliefs they disagree with as the work of a evil spirit. It's easier for people to accept "good things happen by the grace of God" than "you're sexuality or lifestyle is the result of evil spirits corrupting you!"

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Lil_Bit83
08/07/21 2:15:38 PM
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Why do some Christians get annoyed when they're reminded that they're not the only religion that counts,nor are they even the oldest?

Why do some of them get upset when they're called out on their hateful bullshit?

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HylianFox
08/07/21 2:16:56 PM
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Jabodie posted...
It probably has to do with classifying beliefs they disagree with as the work of a evil spirit. It's easier for people to accept "good things happen by the grace of God" than "you're sexuality or lifestyle is the result of evil spirits corrupting you!"

This is something that bother me about Christianity in general: are bad events the result of God's judgment or is Satan in charge?

because most Christians will tell you that God causes hurricanes and plagues and whatnot. even the Bible is all like "yeah, God likes to mass murder people"

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Choco
08/07/21 2:17:22 PM
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HylianFox posted...
The devil is in the details
big (yet detailed) if true

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Ricemills
08/07/21 2:25:05 PM
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HylianFox posted...
This is something that bother me about Christianity in general: are bad events the result of God's judgment or is Satan in charge?

natural bad event: God
bad events made by humanity: Devil .

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Sayoria
08/07/21 2:25:50 PM
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They are right. And his name is Donald Trump.

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HylianFox
08/07/21 2:27:11 PM
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Ricemills posted...
bad events made by humanity: Devil .

so Satan punishes people for being bad? that doesn't make sense

EDIT: or are you saying that people dying from natural disasters & disease is God's doing, but when some goes and shoots up a movie theater Satan made them do it?

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Ricemills
08/07/21 2:32:14 PM
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HylianFox posted...
so Satan punishes people for being bad? that doesn't make sense

i can't remember what it's called, but imagine a corrupt cop setting people to become a criminal, only to arrest them later.
EDIT: or are you saying that people dying from natural disasters & disease is God's doing, but when some goes and shoots up a movie theater Satan made them
well duh?

anyways, it didn't reflect my personal belief, but i just stated what i was taught.

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Gwynevere
08/07/21 2:35:42 PM
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"The devil" as it's known now was the result of a series of mistranslations of the original bible. It was never intended to be some dude in hell that punishes sinners, you can thank the integration of pagan religions by subsequent authors for that one

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finalbossfight
08/09/21 1:36:17 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Is tc an alt that shits its pants with incoherence and nonsense and then swings said pants wildly through the topic?
are you a sperg?
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Lunar_Savage
08/09/21 2:16:17 AM
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So, if it is an honest question TC, then I would say a lot of it has to do with the fact many Christians will use it as an excuse from owning up to what they themselves did. The view tends to be basically: if you're passing off bad deeds/things to an invisible guy you're an unaccountable asshole. If you're passing off good deeds/things to God, then you're just a silly person seeking comfort in the universe.

Which is almost completely in line with what the book says will happen. By convincing the world he doesn't exist, he can step in and replace God, or so he thinks (and in the meantime the world becomes his worthless version of eden). He will undoubtedly get many to actively side with him. He will present to them the object of worship people seem to think they want and tell them all the sweet sounding solutions.

And with the massive rejection of God and the Torah spelled out in the scrolls and Old Testament, it all just kinda adds up.

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mooreandrew58
08/09/21 2:22:27 AM
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HylianFox posted...
so Satan punishes people for being bad? that doesn't make sense

EDIT: or are you saying that people dying from natural disasters & disease is God's doing, but when some goes and shoots up a movie theater Satan made them do it?

I think the idea is the devil wants your soul and the only way he gets it is for you to go to hell. So he manipulates people into doing bad stuff

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Gwynevere
08/09/21 2:26:34 AM
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https://youtu.be/4-AwpkMuW4s

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thronedfire2
08/09/21 2:39:48 AM
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Because you cant claim to have free will and then blame everything on the devil

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Guide
08/09/21 2:49:29 AM
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finalbossfight posted...
But are tolerant of those who say God is real?

seems like people are just wanting to keep their mental peace and think God is some sort of "genie"

and inb4 atheists try to derail the thread. this isn't a pedantic debate about wether god is real, just about people's responses

Your question's kinda vague. "People" have a lot of reasons. One common reason is that "fire n' brimstone" Hell isn't even actually in the Bible. It's a nonsense scare tactic made of lies.

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finalbossfight
08/09/21 7:29:47 PM
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Guide posted...
Your question's kinda vague. "People" have a lot of reasons. One common reason is that "fire n' brimstone" Hell isn't even actually in the Bible. It's a nonsense scare tactic made of lies.
Revelation 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars-they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

this seems close enough
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David1988
08/09/21 7:34:00 PM
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Devil backwards is Lived, should tell you all you need to know.

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finalbossfight
08/09/21 7:34:57 PM
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David1988 posted...
Devil backwards is Lived, should tell you all you need to know.
yeah bro thanks that solves all my life problems
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Prestoff
08/09/21 7:37:49 PM
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Do they? At worst it gets annoying when questioning your faith = the evil spirit/the devil is at work.

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finalbossfight
08/09/21 7:44:59 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Do they? At worst it gets annoying when questioning your faith = the evil spirit/the devil is at work.
in my experience it is
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Goatsensation
08/11/21 1:24:21 AM
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Funcoland
08/11/21 1:28:54 AM
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I think it's less that people believe the devil exists and more that a lot of people use the devil as an excuse for the shitty things they do.

Free will is supposed to be a major element of most Christian theology, but that often goes out the window when you actually do something shitty

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