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DepreceV2
08/06/21 3:03:27 PM
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It doesn't make sense. You have unpopular sports like Skiing, Bobsledding, Table Tennis and shit but they can't put any Esports in the Olympics? That is just bullshit. Gamers area truly the most oppressed.

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The-Apostle
08/06/21 3:16:14 PM
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Esports isn't a sport though.

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DepreceV2
08/06/21 3:16:54 PM
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The-Apostle posted...
Esports aren't sports though.

More of the oppression narrative

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Tyranthraxus
08/06/21 3:17:52 PM
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Honestly though an "Elymplics" would probably be a good idea. There's just no money in it I guess.

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ThyCorndog
08/06/21 3:18:03 PM
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Toke jopic but popularity doesn't have to do with anything in the Olympics. They have marathon walking and I doubt there's many die hard fans for that. They're about seeing people in their physical peak performing

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TheRadiant
08/06/21 3:18:27 PM
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Gamers rise up

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Feline_Heart
08/06/21 3:18:45 PM
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You think skiing is unpopular?

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Tyranthraxus
08/06/21 3:19:18 PM
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Feline_Heart posted...
You think skiing is unpopular?
In the summer Olympics maybe lmao

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Solar_Crimson
08/06/21 3:19:37 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Honestly though an "Elymplics" would probably be a good idea. There's just no money in it I guess.


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deoxxys
08/06/21 3:19:49 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
Gamers area truly the most oppressed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-09gNDsPzQ

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Choco
08/06/21 3:20:47 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
They're about seeing people in their physical peak performing
doesn't the olympics have old men riding horses

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ThyCorndog
08/06/21 3:21:29 PM
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Choco posted...
doesn't the olympics have old men riding horses
Idk but if they do, they're probably the best people at it

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The-Apostle
08/06/21 3:23:11 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Honestly though an "Elymplics" would probably be a good idea. There's just no money in it I guess.
I'd be fine with this, since I wouldn't have to watch.

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Rhylos
08/06/21 3:25:27 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Honestly though an "Elymplics" would probably be a good idea. There's just no money in it I guess.

Anyone who says this has no idea just how much fucking money there is in esports. Just dota 2 alone...
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DepreceV2
08/06/21 3:31:23 PM
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Choco posted...
doesn't the olympics have old men riding horses

They have people standing around shooting guns

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Tyranthraxus
08/06/21 3:34:17 PM
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Rhylos posted...
Anyone who says this has no idea just how much fucking money there is in esports. Just dota 2 alone...

Dota 2 money = |
IOC Money = ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

Messi makes 80 million dollars a year. He is one guy on a team of 11. The entire Dota 2 pool is $40 million. This is just one of dozens of sports. You could slap all the most lucrative eSports together in a single event and still not come close to something with the money of the NFL which isn't even a world wide league.


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DepreceV2
08/06/21 4:00:14 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Dota 2 money = |
IOC Money = ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

Messi makes 80 million dollars a year. He is one guy on a team of 11. The entire Dota 2 pool is $40 million. This is just one of dozens of sports. You could slap all the most lucrative eSports together in a single event and still not come close to something with the money of the NFL which isn't even a world wide league.

I feel like none of this is comparable. The IOC is based around all the olympics including the unpopular ones based on what Ive seen. So of course comparing that to DOTA isnt fair. Plus, you are comparing the most popular players and sports in the world to DOTA. That isnt fair either. Compare it to something comparable in the Olympics like Bobsledding or something

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Guerrilla Soldier
08/06/21 4:01:45 PM
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i honestly can

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monkmith
08/06/21 4:07:46 PM
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i'm still confused that horse jumping is considered an olympic sport, do they give the horse the medal?

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Broseph_Stalin
08/06/21 4:09:02 PM
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I mean if "make your horse walk funny" is an olympic event you might as well throw video games in there as well
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Tyranthraxus
08/06/21 4:14:16 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
I feel like none of this is comparable. The IOC is based around all the olympics including the unpopular ones based on what Ive seen. So of course comparing that to DOTA isnt fair. Plus, you are comparing the most popular players and sports in the world to DOTA. That isnt fair either. Compare it to something comparable in the Olympics like Bobsledding or something

You went straight to the most popular Esport. It's a pretty apt comparison as it sets an upper boundary for expected money return.

The "unpopular" Olympic sports are still televised and used mostly as filler between days when athletes are resting so when people aren't playing soccer they're using the stadium for field hockey or something else. They're there to make money during downtime and they still get pretty good money. You won't get Dota 2 level money for being a champion at discus, sure, but you're invited because they need someone to fill the time.

And you can literally make more money begging than bobsledding so that's not really a fair comparison either.

At the end of the day the most popular games combined just don't have enough money to put together a singular event on an international stage and the less popular games would end up losing money.

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bigblu89
08/06/21 4:14:56 PM
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Assuming this is a real question...

What game would you choose? There's literally hundreds of games people play "profesionally". How do you narrow it down to one?

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Tyranthraxus
08/06/21 4:15:48 PM
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bigblu89 posted...
Assuming this is a real question...

What game would you choose? There's literally hundreds of games people play "profesionally". How do you narrow it down to one?
You don't. That's the thing. Imagine an event like AGDQ or SGDQ and make it a live competition instead of just for fun.

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bigblu89
08/06/21 4:23:37 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
You don't. That's the thing. Imagine an event like AGDQ or SGDQ and make it a live competition instead of just for fun.
But again, which game? How do you decide which game counts towards winning a medal?

Unless you make it decathlon style, but still, which ten games do you chose from?

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bigblu89
08/06/21 4:27:40 PM
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The other issue has to do with getting the rights of the games, getting the rights to use the gaming systems, etc.

Like, no one holds the trademark to Team Handball.

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Tyranthraxus
08/06/21 4:31:22 PM
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There's a lot of games right now that are easier to play than they are to watch due to increasingly complex mechanics designed to appeal to the hardcore players.

Live sports by contrast are easy.

Have ball. Ball go in hoop 2 points. Ball go in hoop from far away, 3 points. Want to know what's happening? Watch the ball.

That's all the viewer needs to understand.

Evo Moment #37 is cool and all but have you ever tried to explain that shit to someone who doesn't know shit about fighting games? You have to cover:
Parrying
Blocking
Chip damage
Supers
Frame data
And that's not even getting into fundamentals.

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UnholyMudcrab
08/06/21 4:32:40 PM
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Most esports are pretty much impossible to understand if you aren't already familiar with the game
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CanuckCowboy
08/06/21 4:36:17 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
You don't. That's the thing. Imagine an event like AGDQ or SGDQ and make it a live competition instead of just for fun.

So you're suggesting that you compete at numerous different games and get an averaged score based on your performance at each?

Or that there's a medal for every different game (which, fuck that. Let's be real thats too many medals to suddenly add and the best country at gaming shouldn't have a massive edge in medal count in the Olympics).

None of those really work in an Olympic style competition.

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bigblu89
08/06/21 4:36:19 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Most esports are pretty much impossible to understand if you aren't already familiar with the game
That as well.

And if you just decided "Street Fighter II is not an Olympic sport" people would just say "Well, why don't I just watch the Judo competition instead and see real people doing it?"

TC is basically asking why NBA 2K isn't an Olympic sport.

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Tyranthraxus
08/06/21 4:38:03 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
So you're suggesting that you compete at numerous different games and get an averaged score based on your performance at each?

No I'm suggesting a separate event that is just video games. Like AGDQ/SGDQ but competitive.

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CanuckCowboy
08/06/21 4:39:48 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
No I'm suggesting a separate event that is just video games. Like AGDQ/SGDQ but competitive.

Oh yeah totally. My bad, that makes total sense.

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Choco
08/07/21 2:03:44 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Live sports by contrast are easy.

Have ball. Ball go in hoop 2 points. Ball go in hoop from far away, 3 points. Want to know what's happening? Watch the ball.

That's all the viewer needs to understand.
and about a trillion clunky rules about x thing is only allowed to be done for y seconds

you aren't wrong but basketball is a terrible example

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ForsakenHermit
08/07/21 6:35:51 PM
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Esports should have their own Olympics.

But yeah dressage should be cut from the Summer Olympics. Sports like Lacrosse and Muay Thai should be in over that.

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lilORANG
08/07/21 6:39:33 PM
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The-Apostle posted...
Esports isn't a sport though.

Most of the shit in the Olympics isn't a sport tho. Just a random activity
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bknight
08/07/21 6:40:50 PM
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France is putting break dancing in the 2024 games, going to have to wait to see if S. Korea ever wants to host again for e-sports.
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CanuckCowboy
08/07/21 6:41:20 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Most of the shit in the Olympics isn't a sport tho. Just a random activity

Some. Not most.

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08/07/21 6:42:10 PM
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