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Graycap
08/05/21 7:05:40 PM
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Problem solved boyos.
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nfearurspecimn
08/05/21 7:05:56 PM
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lol

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MedeaLysistrata
08/05/21 7:07:20 PM
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As I walk through the valley of incels raging
I take a look at my hand and realize it's pretty plain

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Veggeta_EDGE
08/05/21 7:07:55 PM
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I'll be the one dictating that

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Winrawr
08/05/21 7:12:08 PM
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It is amazing how the current pop culture narrative has warped the Nice Guys joke into some incel thing
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Solar_Crimson
08/05/21 7:13:10 PM
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Winrawr posted...
It is amazing how the current pop culture narrative has warped the Nice Guys joke into some incel thing
The incels did that to themselves.

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Prismsblade
08/05/21 7:13:54 PM
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Really sucks how many guys are set up for failure by society at such young ages.

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Graycap
08/05/21 7:14:22 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Really sucks how many guys are set up for failure by society at such young ages.

Facts.
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Winrawr
08/05/21 7:15:44 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
The incels did that to themselves.
Not at all. Anything even remotely antiwomen is vile in today's world. There is a ton of legit stuff to complain about men and women, and women being attracted to pricks is one of the oldest stories in history.
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CanuckCowboy
08/05/21 7:16:24 PM
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Winrawr posted...
Not at all. Anything even remotely antiwomen is vile in today's world. There is a ton of legit stuff to complain about men and women, and women being attracted to pricks is one of the oldest stories in history.

No hes a thousand percent right.

I feel like maybe you're exposing yourself here.

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Graycap
08/05/21 7:18:26 PM
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The proof that there's a difference is in how you don't see anyone complaining about "nice girls".
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CanuckCowboy
08/05/21 7:19:32 PM
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Graycap posted...
The proof that there's a difference is in how you don't see anyone complaining about "nice girls".

You do though.

Seen it plenty of times on various sites.


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Winrawr
08/05/21 7:22:22 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
No hes a thousand percent right.

I feel like maybe you're exposing yourself here.
I don't really care about your irrationale feelings. I dated plenty of women in college and struggled when I was stuck at home after graduating with debt until I went into nursing and could take of myself. Women don't want to date men nice men, they want to to date men who can provide and act like a rationale adult. Being kind is a plus, but far down the priority line. Money and power is all that matters for being available for long term dating. These traits aren't necessarily corrated with money and power, either.

For ONS? Looks and hygiene. That's it.
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CanuckCowboy
08/05/21 7:22:50 PM
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Winrawr posted...
I don't really care about your irrationale feelings. I dated plenty of women in college and struggled when I was stuck at home after graduating with debt until I went into nursing and could take of myself. Women don't want to date men nice men, they want to to date men who can provide and act like a rationale adult. Being kind is a plus, but far down the priority line. Money and power is all that matters for being available for long term dating. These traits aren't necessarily corrated with money and power, either.

For ONS? Looks and hygiene. That's it.

Lol.

My irrational feelings.

Sure thing guy.

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Winrawr
08/05/21 7:23:46 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
Lol.

My irrational feelings.

Sure thing guy.
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CanuckCowboy
08/05/21 7:24:42 PM
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Maybe try being rational and not sounding like some bitter dude who spends too much time on r/redpill or some shit... then you can call other people irrationally without sounding quite so ridiculous.

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haloiscoolisbak
08/05/21 7:26:08 PM
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Being nice plus honesty = the ticket

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Winrawr
08/05/21 7:26:51 PM
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What exactly is ridiculous about it? Every relationship is transactional except family.
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Twin3Turbo
08/05/21 7:27:14 PM
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I have been saying this for the longest.

People always boil it down to nice guys just pretend to be nice for sex, but Ive never viewed it that simply.

They are nice because they are raised that way and there is tons of feedback in the media saying that a nice well meaning guy always win the girl in the end. Ask a woman what kind of guy she likes and its not uncommon to hear something along the lines of I want a nice caring guy, with little added to it. Couple that with tons of movies and TV shows where the nice well meaning guy gets the girl in the end by virtue of basically the love interest finally realizes what a guy he is after some sort of problem is resolved.

The problem is that the nice guy doesnt realize that theres more to it than this, a lot more. And they think that just by virtue of being nice, women should notice them and fall in love. The other problem is that there is a lot of pressure on men to behave a certain way in regards to dating but there arent a lot of avenues out there teaching men how to actually be attractive to women in a healthy way.

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Winrawr
08/05/21 7:38:54 PM
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Twin3Turbo posted...
I have been saying this for the longest.

People always boil it down to nice guys just pretend to be nice for sex, but Ive never viewed it that simply.

They are nice because they are raised that way and there is tons of feedback in the media saying that a nice well meaning guy always win the girl in the end. Ask a woman what kind of guy she likes and its not uncommon to hear something along the lines of I want a nice caring guy, with little added to it. Couple that with tons of movies and TV shows where the nice well meaning guy gets the girl in the end by virtue of basically the love interest finally realizes what a guy he is after some sort of problem is resolved.

The problem is that the nice guy doesnt realize that theres more to it than this, a lot more. And they think that just by virtue of being nice, women should notice them and fall in love. The other problem is that there is a lot of pressure on men to behave a certain way in regards to dating but there arent a lot of avenues out there teaching men how to actually be attractive to women in a healthy way.
This is exactly what is going on. Men are told that being kind is enough. It just isn't. And a lot of women are not very kind themselves, and aren't looking for necessarily kind men
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Graycap
08/05/21 7:40:05 PM
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Twin3Turbo posted...
People always boil it down to nice guys just pretend to be nice for sex,

That was always a bizarre baseless accusation. If someone's being nice the implication is that they're trying to build a personal bond. So the accurate claim is that the "nice guy" is looking for a girlfriend.
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Twin3Turbo
08/05/21 7:50:31 PM
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Graycap posted...
That was always a bizarre baseless accusation. If someone's being nice the implication is that they're trying to build a personal bond. So the accurate claim is that the "nice guy" is looking for a girlfriend.
Agreed. And understandably, being told to be nice and be yourself all the while steadily getting rejected becomes frustrating. That doesnt excuse any of the dudes that end up getting violent or name calling women cause they arent getting any success, but I dont think thats most guys.

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CanuckCowboy
08/05/21 7:51:41 PM
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This may surprise some of you but actual genuine nice guys and guys who self identify as nice guys are almost never the same people.

Shocking. I know.

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NoxObscuras
08/05/21 7:52:33 PM
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Graycap posted...
That was always a bizarre baseless accusation. If someone's being nice the implication is that they're trying to build a personal bond. So the accurate claim is that the "nice guy" is looking for a girlfriend.
It's not a baseless accusation though. Putting "nice guy" in quotes like that means you're talking about the guy that's just pretending to be nice.

There are guys out there that are genuinely just nice to everyone. That's not who "nice guy" is making fun of.

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MedeaLysistrata
08/05/21 7:53:12 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
This may surprise some of you but actual genuine nice guys and guys who self identify as nice guys are almost never the same people.

Shocking. I know.
The point seems to be that guys think they need to try to be 'nice' and don't really have an idea of how to do that anyway

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Anteaterking
08/05/21 7:59:46 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...
It's not a baseless accusation though. Putting "nice guy" in quotes like that means you're talking about the guy that's just pretending to be nice.

Tbf, I think a lot of "nice guys" don't see what they're doing as pretending.

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Prismsblade
08/05/21 8:00:52 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
The point seems to be that guys think they need to try to be 'nice' and don't really have an idea of how to do that anyway
Knowing how to be nice isn't the issue. It's when that trait is all they possss because they were never taught more is the issue..

Which is why I stated earlier that society from the moment many man are born are set up for failure.

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CanuckCowboy
08/05/21 8:03:00 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
The point seems to be that guys think they need to try to be 'nice' and don't really have an idea of how to do that anyway

Yeah i guess you're right.

Honestly I wonder if someone who has to genuinely try to be nice, and who is only doing it because they want something out of it, even has the capacity to be genuinely nice or kind or any kind of empathetic.

People can improve with effort but if a person's only reason for even wanting to be nice is cause they think it will get tjem something.... thats uhhh... thats not how it works. Lol.

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MedeaLysistrata
08/05/21 8:12:07 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
Yeah i guess you're right.

Honestly I wonder if someone who has to genuinely try to be nice, and who is only doing it because they want something out of it, even has the capacity to be genuinely nice or kind or any kind of empathetic.

People can improve with effort but if a person's only reason for even wanting to be nice is cause they think it will get tjem something.... thats uhhh... thats not how it works. Lol.
That might not be how it works, but the nice guy doesn't know that

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Solid Snake07
08/06/21 12:53:30 AM
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"Nice guys" in the context that it's used on the internet is really just a guy who's too much of a coward to make a move on a woman and thinks they should just be automatically showered in pussy by virtue of being bearable to be around

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WingsOfGood
08/06/21 12:55:36 AM
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Winrawr posted...
Women don't want to date men nice men, they want to to date men who can provide and act like a rationale adult.

One of the weirdest sentences I ever read on this site.
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WingsOfGood
08/06/21 1:00:22 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
Honestly I wonder if someone who has to genuinely try to be nice, and who is only doing it because they want something out of it, even has the capacity to be genuinely nice or kind or any kind of empathetic.

People can improve with effort but if a person's only reason for even wanting to be nice is cause they think it will get tjem something.... thats uhhh... thats not how it works. Lol.

Here is a thought.
How old are these men you are discussing? In their 30s?
You really believe they think this will get them a girlfriend if it hasn't for 20 years?
Now revisit your question.
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