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Shezarr 08/05/21 11:45:19 AM #51: |
tripleh213 posted...
Still more college than the avg person. Plus I make a lot without it and would never gamble spending money on something that isnt a guarantee.That's awesome. But guess what? It's not "going to college." You can't say that universities are a scam if you never went to one. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rathinor 08/05/21 11:45:47 AM #52: |
tripleh213 posted...
This is why colleges are scams tripleh213 posted... I have an associates foolYOUR college may have been a scam ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tripleh213 08/05/21 11:45:57 AM #53: |
Its still a scam bro. Its gambling.
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Shezarr 08/05/21 11:46:11 AM #54: |
tripleh213 posted...
Its still a scam bro. Its gambling.It's not, and Shezarr posted... You can't say that universities are a scam if you never went to one. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 08/05/21 11:46:29 AM #55: |
Productive conversation going on right now
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tripleh213 08/05/21 11:46:48 AM #56: |
It is unless they changed it so that you always get a job.
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Rathinor 08/05/21 11:48:26 AM #57: |
tripleh213 posted...
Its still a scam bro. Its gambling.Lol, you clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shezarr 08/05/21 11:48:34 AM #58: |
tripleh213 posted...
It is unless they changed it so that you always get a job.College isn't meant to ensure you get a job. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tripleh213 08/05/21 11:48:47 AM #59: |
Ok whatever you say
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Glob 08/05/21 12:57:01 PM #60: |
tripleh213 posted...
It is unless they changed it so that you always get a job. You're not paying for a job though. When I went to university it wasn't to get a job, it was to study a subject that I had chosen. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 08/05/21 1:11:12 PM #62: |
MedeaLysistrata posted...
My degree is now completely useless Always has been --- Oda break tracker 2021- 5 (4) | THE Ohio State: 7-1 | Las Vegas Raiders: 8-8 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 08/05/21 1:14:21 PM #63: |
voldothegr8 posted...
Always has beenThat's an exaggeration --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 08/05/21 1:15:40 PM #64: |
Grats
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Steelix500 08/05/21 1:17:07 PM #65: |
Just join the military as an officer. They don't give a fuck what degree you have as long as its a bachelor's. You get all your benefits plus that sweet ass officer pay
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Steelix500 08/05/21 1:22:11 PM #67: |
Crash posted...
People with degrees in philosophy are never joining the military. LMAOI'm sure theres at least 1 LT lost somehwere in a land nav course pondering their existance ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RedJackson 08/05/21 1:22:12 PM #68: |
shockthemonkey posted...
Pretending that an associates isnt college is so classist bullshit But Shezarr just wants his fields medal weve always known the kind of people to say shit like him have 0 practical experience out in the real world as far as people or humanity go Hed even throw his own family under the bus for the sake of an online argument lol Guy is completely unhinged --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 08/05/21 1:23:12 PM #69: |
Glob posted...
You're not paying for a job though. When I went to university it wasn't to get a job, it was to study a subject that I had chosen.This. The idea of only going to college to get a job is so depressing, though I can see how the cost can be prohibitive to the point of needing a higher paying job after to pay it back Even if I never get a job in physics, I'll never regret studying it. It's been one of the best experiences of my life --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vampire_Wreath 08/05/21 1:23:59 PM #70: |
This won't affect me since my degree will always be relevant (not really, but when apply for these jobs yes)
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modena 08/05/21 1:24:57 PM #71: |
Steelix500 posted...
I'm sure theres at least 1 LT lost somehwere in a land nav course pondering their existanceLol --- I'm surrounded ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta_MAX 08/05/21 1:25:29 PM #72: |
Gwynevere posted...
The idea of only going to college to get a job is so depressingNot if you're going to get a job that you like. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cuticrusader09 08/05/21 1:32:13 PM #73: |
Glob posted...
Lol, no. What does it prepare you for in the business world? Nothing. --- AC - Violet on Penny. (N), Rose on Sapphire (S) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ToPoPO 08/05/21 1:34:41 PM #74: |
Degrees should be shown, otherwise it's going to look like a gap or you're a failure and lazy fuck
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fhqwhgads 08/05/21 2:00:52 PM #75: |
Rathinor posted...
This is kind of dumb "logic"Apparently tc doesn't have a degree in common sense. --- Everybody to the Limit you can't bxzwlads the fhqwhgads~spudger ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoundGarden 08/05/21 2:05:11 PM #76: |
MedeaLysistrata posted...
Where do you work? And why are you being so obtuse? I only recognize your username Nothing obtuse about it lol. Name one workplace besides a University that has a philosopher on staff. Shezarr posted... Do you ask everyone you work with what their BA is in Of course not. Point stands, I've never met someone that held the job title of 'philosopher' and was employed as such. --- "You go. I'm just going to stare at the lake and think about how I almost just killed a baby." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thunder Warrior 08/05/21 2:09:21 PM #77: |
Shezarr posted...
Person with no degree thinks he's got a sick burn Homie I would rather not have a degree than be saddled with a useless philosophy degree and it's associated debt whining about how my useless degree is literally my only competitive advantage because I'm incompetent/suck --- If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world-J. R. R. Tolkien ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 08/05/21 2:12:27 PM #78: |
Thunder Warrior posted...
Homie I would rather not have a degree than be saddled with a useless philosophy degree and it's associated debt whining about how my useless degree is literally my only competitive advantage because I'm incompetent/suckLots of randos crawling out of the woodwork --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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limp-bizkit-89 08/05/21 2:16:47 PM #79: |
PoundGarden posted...
Nothing obtuse about it lol. Name one workplace besides a University that has a philosopher on staff. it doesnt work like that though. you dont find people with the job title biologer (biologist, I know) or chemicaler (chemist, I know) in many companies but they still hire people with biology or chemistry degrees for jobs that relate to or require said degrees --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 08/05/21 2:18:35 PM #80: |
limp-bizkit-89 posted...
it doesnt work like that though.Just let him remain convinced I'm trying to get hired as a "philosopher" --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Glob 08/05/21 3:21:53 PM #81: |
Cuticrusader09 posted...
What does it prepare you for in the business world? Critical thinking, examining issues from all possible angles, as well as a certain level of intellect. Ability to convince/argue and speak publicly are valued in some roles as well. Of course, there are other ways to demonstrate all of these things. But, as I've said, employers here don't seem to have any objection to philosophy degrees. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shezarr 08/05/21 3:51:02 PM #82: |
shockthemonkey posted...
Pretending that an associates isnt college is so classist bullshitIt isn't. Sorry to burst your bubble, but it isn't. I went to community college before transferring. I have an AA that I got on the way to my BA, so I know that experience as well. The environment, the education, and the degree is not the same as what you get at a university. This isn't "classist bullshit," it's just a fact. If you've only been to a community college you do not get to call BAs/the college experience a scam. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shezarr 08/05/21 3:51:42 PM #83: |
PoundGarden posted...
Of course not. Point stands, I've never met someone that held the job title of 'philosopher' and was employed as such.Unless you work in academe you aren't going to be meeting "philosophers" are you? --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zanzenburger 08/05/21 4:02:29 PM #84: |
There is a disconnect between what various parties want colleges and universities to be.
Administrators want them to be a well-run business that makes them look good to the board of trustees and get them promoted. Faculty want them to be institutions that advance knowledge through research and scholarship, while also training future researchers and scholars. Student Affairs personnel want them to be vehicles for social and economic equity among populations, allowing for even the poorest and most-marginalized a shot at rising the economic latter. Employers want them to be job training centers that pop out employees ready to the specific work they need done and without hand-holding. Politicians want them to make them look good, therefore matching whatever the current hot topic of the week is at the national scale and changing them to meet their political party's needs. Donors want them to simply be trophies and vehicles for their own desires, on which to put their names on buildings and benches and give them a fun place to visit and show their friends. And students want them to serve as the gatekeepers for jobs, basically getting them the job of their dreams no matter how it's done. When so many different groups have a different idea of what a college or university is supposed to be, then the focus is lost and they try to be everything to all people and fail. --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shezarr 08/05/21 4:48:04 PM #86: |
So an AA and a BA represent the same quality and quantity of education in your mind?
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Shezarr 08/05/21 4:50:55 PM #88: |
Shezarr posted...
The environment, the education, and the degree is not the same as what you get at a university. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Answer the question. You cant say college is a scam if you didnt even get the full college experience or education. Outside of a few special fields an AA is 100% meaningless --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CobraGT 08/05/21 4:51:57 PM #89: |
America is like this. There are many other countries that value education.
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Shezarr 08/05/21 4:54:00 PM #91: |
shockthemonkey posted...
So can I use your reasoning and say you never went to college unless you have a Ph.D? Or are you the only one allowed to move the goalposts?When people talk about college being a scam theyre clearly talking about a bachelor. Obviously they arent talking about grad school, as people generally only go to grad school for a specific purpose/career path. Again, do you think an AA and a BA represent the same quantity and quality of education? --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shezarr 08/05/21 4:58:09 PM #93: |
shockthemonkey posted...
lmao so youre just making shit up as you go alongCare to address literally any point I've made or are you just going to keep shitposting? --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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welcome2DAslam 08/05/21 4:58:49 PM #94: |
Yall really let this kind of user continue posting? Like not the guy who hates shit like that (they call it classism, but I mean theres other words that are not passive to describe this type of person) and is a total net positive to the rest of society right? Thank you mod who posted, as if the guy will really change his perspective with that kind of slap on the wrist
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Kloe_Rinz 08/05/21 5:01:24 PM #95: |
limp-bizkit-89 posted...
but they still hire people with biology or chemistry degrees for jobs that relate to or require said degreesTheres extremely few philosopher jobs compared to philosophy graduates ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 08/05/21 5:02:02 PM #96: |
Kloe_Rinz posted...
Theres extremely few philosopher jobs compared to philosophy graduatesThis topic just got 20% cooler --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mooreandrew58 08/05/21 5:24:00 PM #98: |
Ya know maybe its not the case but people can be judgmental but I could see at least see some people see the philosophy degree and immediately think "this guy probably thinks hes wiser than everyone else. Not dealing with that"
Like personally id probably have a bias against people with psychology degrees cause most ive met rub the wrong way. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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limp-bizkit-89 08/05/21 5:40:20 PM #100: |
Godnorgosh posted...
I have a Mickey Mouse philosophy degree and I'm a network engineer how did you become a network engineer? --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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