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MedeaLysistrata
08/02/21 6:09:59 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0271530903000132

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MedeaLysistrata
08/02/21 6:10:50 PM
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if anyone can access this article and read it please let me know

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Jabodie
08/02/21 6:11:51 PM
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As somebody who knows English, I will analyze this post haste.

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Shezarr
08/02/21 6:16:20 PM
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My institution doesn't have access to it, but I don't see why it would be? Silverstein is a well-known linguist.

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WeeWeiWiiWie
08/02/21 6:19:34 PM
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Jabodie posted...
As somebody who knows English, I will analyze this post haste.

Lol.

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Kuuko
08/02/21 6:26:14 PM
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Go to Google Scholar, search a paper, see if there's a PDF version you can view. Try that when you can't see something you want to see because of a paywall and you don't have institutional access. Generally it'll also tell you if the paper means anything because you'll see the number of citations.

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Shezarr
08/02/21 6:27:29 PM
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Kuuko posted...
Generally it'll also tell you if the paper means anything because you'll see the number of citations.
I mean, number of citations doesn't really mean anything, especially in smaller fields. If there's a lot it can tell you that it's a well-regarded or commonly-cited paper, but having few citations could just mean it's new or written by a less well-known scholar who might be overshadowed by bigger names in their field.

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Kuuko
08/02/21 6:30:03 PM
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Shezarr posted...
I mean, number of citations doesn't really mean anything, especially in smaller fields. If there's a lot it can tell you that it's a well-regarded or commonly-cited paper, but having few citations could just mean it's new or written by a less well-known scholar who might be overshadowed by bigger names in their field.
Of course it's not the end-all-be-all measurement. But there is a reason university departments are so obsessed with their total citations. It's an easy rough measurement to see if anyone else even thinks the research contributed anything else to the conversation. So when an anti-vaxxer sends you some random research paper, with a citation of 0 or a citation of 1 and that other citation is the same author citing themselves, you have good reason to consider it's not really "what the research shows" or "what studies say" or whatever.

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WeeWeiWiiWie
08/02/21 6:31:44 PM
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Kuuko posted...
But there is a reason university departments are so obsessed with their total citations.

The reason is that it is a number. And you can say "that number is bigger than that other number".

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Doe
08/02/21 6:32:22 PM
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Shezarr
08/02/21 6:32:58 PM
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Doe posted...
it has no practical value.
Somehow I don't think you read the article.

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MedeaLysistrata
08/02/21 6:35:24 PM
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Doe posted...
it has no practical value.
It advances my message board communication ontology by quite a lot

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Robot2600
08/02/21 6:36:11 PM
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The abstract made sense but it's definitely using fancy talk to try and spice it up.

I couldn't read the article or click the figures.

Post some of it for us, TC. First 2 and last 2 paragraphs from the article should be sufficient.

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MedeaLysistrata
08/02/21 6:36:54 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
The abstract made sense but it's definitely using fancy talk to try and spice it up.

I couldn't read the article or click the figures.

Post some of it for us, TC. First 2 and last 2 paragraphs from the article should be sufficient.
Eheheheh no

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LeoRavus
08/02/21 6:36:58 PM
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I'd have to google every other word to understand wtf it's saying

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theAteam
08/02/21 6:44:29 PM
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dem reads like citytalk to me, jeb

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MedeaLysistrata
08/02/21 6:46:48 PM
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fwiw i don't understand it really, I can glean parts of it I guess

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