Current Events > Police kill x30 rate as much as the average citizen

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U.S. police kill around 1,000 people per year: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/
There are around 700,000 active police officers: https://www.statista.com/statistics/191694/number-of-law-enforcement-officers-in-the-us/

So each year, around 0.15% of police kill someone, on average.

The U.S. has around 19,000 homicides each year, total: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm
There are 330,000,000 people in the U.S.

So each year, around 0.005% of people kill someone.

Police kill at a 30x higher rate than the average person.



Taken from the politics board

Your thoughts?

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So you're saying I need to kill more people?

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cute pic

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People with guns who respond to crimes kill more frequently than a population including unarmed people and infants?



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jpenny2 posted...

So you're saying I need to kill more people?

Better get on it. You have a 30 person kill quota today.
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Slayer_22 posted...

Better get on it. You have a 30 person kill quota today.

I've been stuck at 0 forever.

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jpenny2 posted...

I've been stuck at 0 forever.

Try harder, you'll never succeed with that attitude!
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YugiNoob posted...

People with guns who respond to crimes kill more frequently than a population including unarmed people and infants?

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What's the innocent bystander to criminal ratio in the people police kill?

Shadilay posted...

What's the innocent bystander to criminal ratio in the people police kill?

hard to tell since the police write the report

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Shadilay posted...

What's the innocent bystander to criminal ratio in the people police kill?

"Criminal" isn't useful here. "Dangerous criminal who left officers no other choice" should be the standard.

And I would bet that they make up a fraction of the dead.

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So people trained in firearms who confront criminals all week long use them more than the average citizen?

lol

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That's a good thing. Most non-police killings are crimes. Most police killings are to stop crimes

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YugiNoob posted...

People with guns who respond to crimes kill more frequently than a population including unarmed people and infants?

/topic

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The rare situation where I think the rate would still end up higher even if police didn't shoot too often

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BilalPowell posted...

That's a good thing. Most non-police killings are crimes. Most police killings are to stop crimes

I dunno about that second part

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iirc U.S. police kill at something like a 60x higher rate than the UK police

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Shablagoo posted...

iirc U.S. police kill at something like a 60x higher rate than the UK police

That's because barring special units , UK police don't carry guns and neither do the general population

With that in mind, the UK kill count and knife crime is disturbingly high

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knife crime is higher in the U.S., despite the UKs reputation for it

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Seeing as I don't carry a gun nor do I put myself into situations where someone could be violently hostile towards me on a regular basis, that is pretty fucking likely.

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Isn't that a good thing, all things considered?
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Shablagoo posted...

knife crime is higher in the U.S., despite the UKs reputation for it

This is not true at all

Unless you're measuring gross rather than per capita

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Shadilay posted...

What's the innocent bystander to criminal ratio in the people police kill?

They're all criminals when you drop a gun and bag of crack next to the body.

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And the thing that is conveniently left out is that of that 1,000 people killed, about 95% of them are armed. Where as the reverse is true for civilian killings.

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Stupid comparison. And just so we understand. More than 95 percent of the killings were subjects armed with a firearm and/or other deadly weapon and committing felonious crimes with it.

this isnt the gotcha you think it is.

With your logic, US Citizens kill cops at a rate way higher than cops killing US citizens. So whats your answer for that?

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darkprince45 posted...

Stupid comparison. And just so we understand. More than 95 percent of the killings were subjects armed with a firearm and/or other deadly weapon and committing felonious crimes with it.

this isnt the gotcha you think it is.

I'm not sure who you're talking to.

With your logic, US Citizens kill cops at a rate way higher than cops killing US citizens. So whats your answer for that?

Erm

0.005% v 0.0025714285714286

Police are killed by Civilians at alittle over half the rate of civilians killing civilians.

And even that's choppy, as the data counts police killed in the line of duty so will include friendly fire and fuck ups.

I mean your overall point isn't automatically wrong. Most killings are crimes of passion between people who know each other. So it's not surprising that cops are much lower than all citizens as a per capita percentage. But "WELL WHY DO CIVILIAS KILLS COPS SP MUCH!" was a weird and completely incorrect flex.

I think you need to take a break, calm down and cool off. You're screaming at shadows and have weird biases showing.

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So doesn't this mean civilians should be able to get scared and accidentally shoot a cop? They're just human. Look at the statistics.

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I wasnt aware I was anything but calm. Nowhere did I seem to be screaming at shadows? What does that even mean here lol? Youre the one acting a fool with your fake trolling pretending youre from the UK

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YugiNoob posted...

People with guns who respond to crimes kill more frequently than a population including unarmed people and infants?

So youre saying we should arm infants

Gamerguymass posted...

And the thing that is conveniently left out is that of that 1,000 people killed, about 95% of them are armed. Where as the reverse is true for civilian killings.

It's called America, dude. Everyone has guns. No one lets a civilian get away with getting scared because 100% of cops are armed.

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darkprince45 posted...

I wasnt aware I was anything but calm. Nowhere did I seem to be screaming at shadows? What does that even mean here lol? Youre the one acting a fool with your fake trolling pretending youre from the UK

Lol

No apology for being wrong and straight to topic derailing UK nonsense and insults.

Jesus...

hockeybub89 posted...

So doesn't this mean civilians should be able to get scared and accidentally shoot a cop? They're just human. Look at the statistics.

They should just lie on their face so cops can kneel on their heads until they die some more apparently.

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I imagine firefighters are 100x more likely to put out a fire compared to a non-firefighter citizen.

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Dat picture reminds me of a Grunt standing next to an Elite.

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mustachedmystic posted...

Dat picture reminds me of a Grunt standing next to an Elite.

I like to imagine that he yells "I AM KROOOOGAN!" during sex

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