Current Events > Biden wants states to pay $100 to get the vaccine

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Bleuets
07/29/21 9:54:19 PM
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metallica846 posted...
So when the booster vaccine comes out, a lot more people will just wait for the incentive. Smart move. Pay the people who already got the vaccine.

Its to push people to get the vaccine . Its a good idea.
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PatrickMahomes
07/29/21 9:54:41 PM
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AlBundy33 posted...
It could have been 100 $10,000 lotteries, or 1000 $1000 giveaways, not really an incentive for a very small chance to win $1 million, youd almost have a better chance hitting the jackpot on a scratch off
Oh I agree, which is why I'm surprised there seems to be outrage ITT

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kingdrake2
07/29/21 9:57:43 PM
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i really hope albundy doesn't get covid.

horrible decision by not getting the vaccine. people end up with broken weiners because of the virus.
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hockeybub89
07/29/21 9:58:38 PM
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AlBundy33 posted...
@hockeybub89 Uh, do you know what Anti Vaxxer even means? Based on this conversation, thats a no.

edit: and for the record, Im probably older than you
I never said what age I thought you were.

Maybe stop being an anti-vaxxer if you don't want to be called one. Conspiracy theorists like you always try to distance themselves from "the crazies" but still make the same arguments. But it's ok because you randomly pick and choose when to use logic rather than just never use it.

A vaccine has never had long term effects. Yeah, this vaccine could something special and randomly have side effects 15 years down the road, but by that logic, no one should ever trust modern medicine. How do you know a drug approved in 2010 won't kill you in 2050?

Oh, but that's a crazy hypocritical and totally different than your gut feeling which you know is right this time, maybe, you hope. What if I told you fully approved drugs get pulled off the market all the time?

Are you going to become one of those naturalists who don't trust medicine, but will take herbs and shit that no one even checks for efficacy? "Trust me, bro. I'm not Big Science or Big Government. I'm a random dude who shoves plants into capsules and upcharges you. You can trust me implicitly."

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hockeybub89
07/29/21 9:59:55 PM
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kingdrake2 posted...
i really hope albundy doesn't get covid.

horrible decision by not getting the vaccine. people end up with broken weiners because of the virus.
This is where anti-vaxxers will unironically tell you that you can't base your fears around random, rare side effects.

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solosnake
07/29/21 10:00:03 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
They should just ban anti-vaxxers like TC from public until they make the right choice and get vaccinated

Thats a terrible idea. It would instantly plunge the country into chaos and mass rioting, possibly even a civil war

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hockeybub89
07/29/21 10:04:42 PM
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Do anti-vaxxers realize we are in the apocalypse if they are right?

But I guess that doesn't sound crazy from people who think every government and expert in the world is in cahoots and too evil and/or scared to worry about murdering billions of people with some random shit thrown in a syringe.

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hockeybub89
07/29/21 10:05:17 PM
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solosnake posted...
Thats a terrible idea. It would instantly plunge the country into chaos and mass rioting, possibly even a civil war
I got some bad news for you.

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ButteryMales
07/29/21 10:14:14 PM
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solosnake posted...
Thats a terrible idea. It would instantly plunge the country into chaos and mass rioting, possibly even a civil war
Didn't happen when smallpox vaccines were mandated in 1900.
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solosnake
07/29/21 10:17:56 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
Didn't happen when smallpox vaccines were mandated in 1900.
different era, Trumpers didnt exist back then. Also that vaccine was able to eradicate the virus. The covid vaccine doest stop you from catching it or spreading it to others with 100% efficacy, it really only protects yourself

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Trumble
07/29/21 10:47:27 PM
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Bleuets posted...
I mean, this situation is similar to canceling student loans right? So, where would you stand on that issue?
I see where you're coming from. I'm not personally in favor of outright cancelling student loans; but I also think the US takes it too far to the other extreme. New Zealand has a pretty good balance; the only thing I'd change is that the "one year free" should apply at the end of study rather than the start, so it only covers people who finish their study. In short - under NZ's system, eligibility is basically universal, there's no interest as long as you don't leave the country, and repayment obligations are tied to your income, right up to if you don't earn anything (or not much) you don't have to make any payments.

With that being said, I don't believe the two situations are the same. There is a lot more to lose from people holding out until the payments start in a future pandemic, if that precedent gets set. There's a lot less lost from people holding out on making their own student loan repayments, which really is something that only affects themselves no matter how deep they go.


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ButteryMales
07/29/21 10:54:04 PM
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solosnake posted...
different era, Trumpers didnt exist back then.
So what rock were you living under when those cosplayers ran after one shot?
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yemmy
07/29/21 11:37:42 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
What if I told you fully approved drugs get pulled off the market all the time?

I don't wanna get into an argument but that doesn't really help your case.

Saying fully approved drugs often fuck people up to where they have to pull them should just make people even more weary of something that isn't fully approved.

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hockeybub89
07/30/21 12:58:46 AM
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yemmy posted...
I don't wanna get into an argument but that doesn't really help your case.

Saying fully approved drugs often fuck people up to where they have to pull them should just make people even more weary of something that isn't fully approved.
My point was he should shut the fuck or be literally scared of all drugs like a naturopath. No half measures.

People will trust the words of non-experts and untested treatments, or a proven deadly virus, and then freak out when a drug doesn't go through 27 years of trials and have 0 side effects.

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ButteryMales
07/30/21 1:03:11 AM
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yemmy posted...
Saying fully approved drugs often fuck people up to where they have to pull them should just make people even more weary of something that isn't fully approved.
That doesn't make sense fully approved drugs being recalled would make you weary of fully approved drugs. It more implies that full approval isn't magic or completely necessary.
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hockeybub89
07/30/21 1:06:20 AM
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ButteryMales posted...
That doesn't make sense fully approved drugs being recalled would make you weary of fully approved drugs. It more implies that full approval isn't magic or completely necessary.
Exactly. A lot of the time is pointless and only exists for drug companies to figure out how to extend their patents.

People need to stop acting like random shit was just squeezed into vials and dropped off at clinics with a hope and a prayer.

bUt EmErGeNcY aPpRoVaL

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Pepys Monster
07/30/21 4:13:22 PM
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I think people who have refused to get the vaccine should be fined $100, not rewarded.

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