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VipaGTS
07/28/21 5:57:45 PM
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https://twitter.com/SunSentinel/status/1419290525404905473?s=20

basically, she was babysitting a 5 month old and shook him so violently that she caused permanent damage and long term health issues. The kid lived to be 35 and died because of complications due to those injuries. the woman who caused the injuries is now being charged with murder. Thoughts? Should a death that took 35 years still get her a murder charge?

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Alteres
07/28/21 5:59:17 PM
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This isnt an old, but did the last topic get deleted?

I remember people starting to troll each other.

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IdiotMachine
07/28/21 5:59:54 PM
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Murder doesnt have a statue of limitation so legally, nothing wrong with this.

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Turbam
07/28/21 6:00:07 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
Should a death that took 35 years still get her a murder charge?
Yes

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bnui_ransder
07/28/21 6:00:18 PM
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Damn that's really hard to say. She's a monster for shaking a child and deserves it

But 35 years... she really did ultimately cause it but does this open the door to go after people who injured a person and they died many years later due to complications arising from injury?

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EmbraceOfDeath
07/28/21 6:04:28 PM
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Turbam posted...
Yes
No. There's literally no purpose to doing it 35 years later except to placate morons who only act on emotion and can't fathom rational thought.

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Questionmarktarius
07/28/21 6:05:42 PM
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Shoulda got a lawyer to create a babysitting LLC, then it's just a fine and a thin promise to "make good".
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Flamer_Blue
07/28/21 6:11:03 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
https://twitter.com/SunSentinel/status/1419290525404905473?s=20

basically, she was babysitting a 5 month old and shook him so violently that she caused permanent damage and long term health issues. The kid lived to be 35 and died because of complications due to those injuries. the woman who caused the injuries is now being charged with murder. Thoughts? Should a death that took 35 years still get her a murder charge?
If men are thrown in jail for having sexual intercourse WITH consent many many years after it happened just because a women suddenly regretted it, then yes she deserves to go to jail.

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garan
07/28/21 6:52:24 PM
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Fair, next.
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One_Day_Remains
07/28/21 7:46:10 PM
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Should've been charged at the time it did happen
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Kakapo
07/28/21 7:48:21 PM
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Flamer_Blue posted...
If men are thrown in jail for having sexual intercourse WITH consent many many years after it happened just because a women suddenly regretted it, then yes she deserves to go to jail.

Thats a mighty big statement there, chief

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K181
07/28/21 7:52:42 PM
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Oh God.... that's fucking tragic as hell....

That being said, don't most states operate under a year and a day rule when it comes to charging people for homicide? If a victims dies more than that from the initial attack, it's usually not considered murder.

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Darmik
07/28/21 7:57:09 PM
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The story for this said that his brain never developed past being 5 months old.

So yeah she killed him. It just took him over 35 years to die.

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mooreandrew58
07/28/21 8:03:00 PM
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Ideally she shoulda been charged with something the moment they realized her actions fucked the kid up.

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mooreandrew58
07/28/21 8:04:07 PM
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K181 posted...
Oh God.... that's fucking tragic as hell....

That being said, don't most states operate under a year and a day rule when it comes to charging people for homicide? If a victims dies more than that from the initial attack, it's usually not considered murder.

No that's most crimes but certain ones like murder and rape dont have a statute of limitations

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K181
07/28/21 8:08:23 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
No that's most crimes but certain ones like murder and rape dont have a statute of limitations

Not talking about statute of limits, but of the violent act being judged as legally culpable for a death.

The dude that shot Reagan and Brady wasn't charged for murder for that reason after Brady died decades later.

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mooreandrew58
07/28/21 8:10:02 PM
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K181 posted...
Not talking about statute of limits, but of the violent act being judged as legally culpable for a death.

The dude thst shot Reagan and Brady wasn't charged for murder for that reason after Brady died decades later.

Oh well Idk. Was she ever charges with anything back then? Cause she shoulda.

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Machete
07/28/21 8:13:34 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...


Oh well Idk. Was she ever charges with anything back then?


Yes she was
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spikethedevil
07/28/21 8:14:11 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/79586086

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mooreandrew58
07/28/21 8:18:11 PM
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Machete posted...
Yes she was

Ok. Sorry I don't click on every news article posted.

So yeah seems a little messed up to punish her twice

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gunplagirl
07/28/21 8:22:42 PM
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If she was already charged for stuff at the time, then this just seems absurd. If she wasn't charged on the other hand, then uh. I mean it's the law but definitely violates the spirit of a lot of things. Unless the injuries directly caused the death, I don't think this should result in murder charges.

I mean for instance, if i break someone's ribs during sports practice, but everyone considered it a freak accident, and they die years later from some bone infection that they were susceptible to directly as a result of the broken ribs not healing properly? Charging me with manslaughter for that would be such a stretch. At least, I think the lesser comparison holds up to convey what I'm trying to get across?

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newhorrorguy
07/28/21 8:24:24 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
No that's most crimes but certain ones like murder and rape dont have a statute of limitations
He doesn't mean statute of limitations. Year and a day is a common law ruling for how close the attack and injury need to be to charge someone for it, but its not in US law.

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Machete
07/28/21 8:25:41 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...


Ok. Sorry I don't click on every news article posted.

So yeah seems a little messed up to punish her twice


I knew from the previous topic. This is a very tough one to form an opinion on for me. I have never heard of a case like this before.
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newhorrorguy
07/28/21 8:27:20 PM
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Machete posted...
I knew from the previous topic. This is a very tough one to form an opinion on for me. I have never heard of a case like this before.
Gets worse looking in the history of the case. Apparently the conviction is based on flimsy evidence, as it was extremely easy to get falsely charged with shaking a baby at the time. It's possible he fell off the couch and hit his head as well. This case is full of weird details and tough choices.

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DoctorPiranha3
07/28/21 8:28:52 PM
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How does the shaking affect the baby? Did it cut off oxygen to his brain or something?

The bitch should be shot on sight. Living garbage.
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newhorrorguy
07/28/21 8:30:33 PM
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...
How does the shaking affect the baby? Did it cut off oxygen to his brain or something?

The bitch should be shot on sight. Living garbage.
He had an aneurysm. That said, it's unclear if she actually caused it or not, though she clearly didn't seek assistance soon enough.

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Darmik
07/28/21 8:32:15 PM
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newhorrorguy posted...
Gets worse looking in the history of the case. Apparently the conviction is based on flimsy evidence, as it was extremely easy to get falsely charged with shaking a baby at the time. It's possible he fell off the couch and hit his head as well. This case is full of weird details and tough choices.

That was her defense

McKirchy allegedly told his parents that their son had fallen off a couch, but the baby was blue in the face, his breathing shallow, his hands clenched and his eyes no longer responsive. His parents rushed him to the hospital, where doctors determined he suffered from shaken infant syndrome.

I don't think a fall from a couch would have lead to something like that but considering she was a babysitter even putting a 5 month old on a couch is very irresponsible. They're still figuring out how to move at all at that age.

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newhorrorguy
07/28/21 8:34:52 PM
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Darmik posted...
That was her defense

I don't think a fall from a couch would have lead to something like that but considering she was a babysitter even putting a 5 month old on a couch is very irresponsible. They're still figuring out how to move at all at that age.
Oh yeah, I'm not gonna defend her because she also didn't call for help and didn't even fucking tell the parents.

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legendarylemur
07/28/21 8:39:22 PM
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Babies are incredibly fragile. Shaking them with any adult strength could cause serious damage.

Man, why'd she even agree to babysit if she wasn't up to the fucking task?

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mooreandrew58
07/28/21 8:51:51 PM
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newhorrorguy posted...
He doesn't mean statute of limitations. Year and a day is a common law ruling for how close the attack and injury need to be to charge someone for it, but its not in US law.

That was already explained to me. Thank you though

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Mr_Karate_II
07/28/21 8:53:43 PM
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This didnt need another topic,anyway she should be charged with murder. She shook the baby,lied about it and didnt seek help for the baby. She should have been charged with attempted murder back then and spent her life in prison.

There is no excuse for what she did,she knew not to do that to a baby. I don't buy that he fell off the couch, a 5 month old is barely moving as it as and even if they're moving then you dont put them on the couch by themselves

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newhorrorguy
07/29/21 10:47:42 AM
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legendarylemur posted...
Babies are incredibly fragile. Shaking them with any adult strength could cause serious damage.

Man, why'd she even agree to babysit if she wasn't up to the fucking task?
I mean, she had two kids of her own and was pregnant with a third. Something went really wrong there, IDK if it was malicious or anger or negligence or what.

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Prismsblade
07/29/21 10:59:11 AM
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Depending on how you look at it the victim died that day to be honest, dunno why she wasn't punished proper until now and left to rot in prison till this day.

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newhorrorguy
07/29/21 11:07:00 AM
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Prismsblade posted...
Depending on how you look at it the victim died that day to be honest, dunno why she wasn't punished proper until now and left to rot in prison till this day.
Apparently it was a combination of lack of evidence proving intent and her being 6 months pregnant at the time. Which is kinda bullshit.

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Slayer_22
07/29/21 11:11:17 AM
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That sounds like it was deserved. Fuck this disgusting excuse for a human being.
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Wasssup Now
07/29/21 11:22:37 AM
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Looks like she was charged with attempted murder 35 years ago and pleaded guilty. Now her victim finally died from that attempted murder.

If someone shots another individual leaving them in a coma then gets convicted of attempted murder and then the person dies from wound directly after the verdict what happens? The criminal is already convicted but maybe alter the sentencing is my guess.

It looks like any time an attempted murder charge is convicted it can be changed to a successful murder upon the victims death if an assault causing bodily harm occurred.
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FortuneCookie
07/29/21 11:34:50 AM
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*looks at the picture*

I have no sympathy for a woman who would do that to a human being.
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