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sLaCkEr408___RJ
07/27/21 10:41:27 AM
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Best Plant


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weekoldhotdog
07/27/21 10:43:10 AM
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C. Rudaralis

wtf is this babies first pot topic? Everyone knows there are 3 different kinds of marijuana, not including hemp.

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KILBOTz
07/27/21 10:43:26 AM
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Hybrid but saliva if I have to choose

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07/27/21 10:44:32 AM
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CanuckCowboy
07/27/21 10:47:07 AM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
C. Rudaralis

wtf is this babies first pot topic? Everyone knows there are 3 different kinds of marijuana, not including hemp.

Thats got nothing to do with the topic.

Its a wild auto flowering type of cannabis which originated in Asia and has been used in crossbreeding to developed auto flowering plants for seed companies.

Its a strain of Marijuana essentially.

All weed is still either sativa, indica, or a hybrid.

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CanuckCowboy
07/27/21 10:48:10 AM
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Sativa for me.

Indica as a sleep aid though.

Hybrids for growing cause sativa yields typically suck.

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weekoldhotdog
07/27/21 10:50:46 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
Thats got nothing to do with the topic.

Its a wild auto flowering type of cannabis which originated in Asia and has been used in crossbreeding to developed auto flowering plants for seed companies.

Its a strain of Marijuana essentially.

All weed is still either sativa, indica, or a hybrid.

Wrong. Rudaralis has unique properties that allow it to flower in 24 hours of day light for a set period of time, completely different from how sativa or indica grows.

Man, I expected better from a person that lives in a country that's legalized marijuana.

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CanuckCowboy
07/27/21 10:52:20 AM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
Wrong. Rudaralis has unique properties that allow it to flower in 24 hours of day light for a set period of time, completely different from how sativa or indica grows.

Man, I expected better from a person that lives in a country that's legalized marijuana.

Yes I mentioned that.

Which is why it's used in creating new hybrid strains with auto flowering properties.

Those strains are still either indica or sativa though.

True wild ruderalis is just schwag unless you're in it for the cbd. I've literally never seen pure ruderalis sold anywhere, seeds or buds.

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07/27/21 10:53:48 AM
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weekoldhotdog
07/27/21 10:54:56 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
Yes I mentioned that.

Which is why it's used in creating new hybrid strains with auto flowering properties.

Those strains are still either indica or sativa though.

True wild ruderalis is just schwag unless you're in it for the cbd.

No, it's literally it's own classification thus it's a "sub-species" just like indica and sativa.

Do I really need to source for you to accept this or are you going to argue with me some more?

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CanuckCowboy
07/27/21 10:57:05 AM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
No, it's literally it's own classification thus it's a "sub-species" just like indica and sativa.

Do I really need to source for you to accept this or are you going to argue with me some more?

Technically you're right.

Practically you're either wrong or being pedantic. Literally no one is going out of their way to grow a pure ruderalis strain.

Its use in marijuana agriculture is to modify sativas and indicas to autoflower.

Saying its your favourite is like saying you prefer shake to bud.

Coming into a topic about indica and sativa to say ruderalis is best just seems like a "look how much I know!" Kinda deal.

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Giant_Aspirin
07/27/21 10:58:36 AM
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i dont like 100% indica or sativa, but in general i prefer indicas since i use weed to relax and calm down. 70/30 indica/sativa is about the sweet spot for me.

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weekoldhotdog
07/27/21 11:00:53 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
Technically you're right.

Practically you're either wrong or being pedantic. Literally no one is going out of their way to grow a pure ruderalis strain.

Its use in marijuana agriculture is to modify sativas and indicas to autoflower.

Saying its your favourite is like saying you prefer shake to bud.

In places where marijuana is still illegal, the auto flower strain is known as the "Stealth" strain for it's ability to grow in almost any environment. I've seen actual PC computer cases be converted into a grow case (that blended in with any living room dcor) by using CFLs and computer fans to reduce the heat to the growing plants. There are a lot of things you can do with rudaralis that you cannot do with just Sativa or just indica. Rudaralis can transform a 3 month vegetation cycle followed by a 18 week flowering cycle (typical for strains like White Widow as it takes a long grow cycle for this plant to fully mature) into a 90 day one and done.

You're dismissing an amazing plant by painting it with the same brush that you paint hemp with.

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CanuckCowboy
07/27/21 11:04:44 AM
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I'm not dismissing anything.

I'm saying no one is growing ruderalis like they grow indixa or sativa or hybrids. It is used solely for its autoflowering properties. You create new strains of indica, sativa, or hybrid using ruderalis so that they gain irs autoflowering properties. I've said that repeatedly now.

Ruderalis is a wold strain, so growing it indoors would essentially mean its not even ruderalis anymore. It also has a very low thc content and not especially great yields. If you started your own company and sold exclusively pure ruderalis no one would buy it cause it'd be trash. Again it has value for the cbd, but its not even great for that relative to strains that have been engineered for it.

It's used for cossbreding new strains of the more well known categories. Its not a thing you can go buy at a dispensary and its not a thing that would be worth growing for retail purposes.

You don't seem to realize that autoflowering bud is not exclusive to ruderalis. That is its one great property. Which is why thats been bred into indica and sativas and hybrids.

It's value is for the autoflowering... and now there are numerous strains of bud which have had those properties bred into them.

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weekoldhotdog
07/27/21 11:09:44 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
I'm not dismissing anything.

I'm saying no one is growing ruderalis like they grow indixa or sativa or hybrids. It is used solely for its autoflowering properties. You create new strains of indica, sativa, or hybrid using ruderalis so that they gain irs autoflowering properties. I've said that repeatedly now.

Ruderalis is a wold strain, so growing it indoors would essentially mean its not even ruderalis anymore. It also has a very low thc content and not especially great yields. If you started your own company and sold exclusively pure ruderalis no one would buy it cause it'd be trash. Again it has value for the cbd, but its not even great for that relative to strains that have been engineered for it.

It's used for cossbreding new strains of the more well known categories. Its not a thing you can go buy at a dispensary and its not a thing that would be worth growing for retail purposes.

You don't seem to realize that autoflowering bud is not exclusive to ruderalis. That is its one great property. Which is why thats been bred into indica and sativas and hybrids.

The question was "which is the best". In this situation, I gave my response. You can get uppity about it all you want but the fact remains that there is a 3rd sub species that wasn't included on the list (out of ignorance) and not out of the need to feel like a hipster about "WELL TECH-NIC-ALLY" because I have the ability to push my glasses to from the bottom of my nose to the top of my forehead, which unlocks my hidden potential to beat any living thing unconscious with my logic.

Don't try me Canuck. You'll go down hard.

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CanuckCowboy
07/27/21 11:12:02 AM
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I doubt it.

And how is it the best when it's literal schwag garbage bud and there are now countless strains of really great bud which have its autoflowering properties?

Again you're post just comes across like "guys I know so much look at me!"

"My favourite is wild Asian garbage weed which barely even gets you high."

Like ok.

But maybe just buy autoflowering seeds that aren't trash.

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weekoldhotdog
07/27/21 11:15:55 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
I doubt it.

And how is it the best when it's literal schwag garbage bud and there are now countless strains of really great bud which have its autoflowering properties?

Again you're post just comes across like "guys I know so much look at me!"

"My favourite is wild Asian garbage weed which barely even gets you high."

Like ok.

But maybe just buy autoflowering seeds that aren't trash.

I would but Canada is pretty 2nd rate when it comes to getting reliable genetics so I tend go get my clones locally. It's pretty funny watching you get aggravated to the point that you're willing to argue with me and even repeat yourself repeatedly despite the fact I only read 2 lines out of your walls of text before I start writing my reply back to you.

Must be hard arguing with a person that doesn't even see your point.

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CanuckCowboy
07/27/21 11:17:13 AM
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You're inability to grasp the point doesn't bother me. Thats a you thing.

Also lol at the "we grow better weed here than you guys!" Regional fanboyism.

You dont see me pointing out that bc bud is world renowned like thats relevant.

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weekoldhotdog
07/27/21 11:18:09 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
You're inability to grasp the point doesn't bother me. Thats a you thing.

Also lol at the "we grow better weed here than you guys!" Regional fanboyism.

You dont see me pointing out that bc bud is world renowned like thats relevant.

Oh you mean that bud that gets packaged with onions so it smells like vegetables when it comes over the border? BC bud is called "beasters" for a reason, pal <3

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CanuckCowboy
07/27/21 11:18:27 AM
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Wtf are you on about bud?

You getting some northern Ontario shit and thinking thats relevant to BC bud? It ain't. Thats why bc bud used to go for triple market value out that way.

By country America grows better bud than Canada. Now if bc was a country and you were comparing BC to america?

Thats a whole different thing.

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daynlokki
07/27/21 11:21:53 AM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
No, it's literally it's own classification thus it's a "sub-species" just like indica and sativa.

Do I really need to source for you to accept this or are you going to argue with me some more?
Ruderalis is often described as the third type of cannabis along with Cannabis sativa and Cannabis indica, although botanists are unsure whether it qualifies as a species in its own right.
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weekoldhotdog
07/27/21 11:22:32 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
Wtf are you on about bud?

You getting some northern Ontario shit and thinking thats relevant to BC bud? It ain't. Thats why bc bud used to go for triple market value out that way.

Triple market value? Do you even know what supply and demand is? Weed, regardless of quality triples in value the further away from the grow destination it travels all the way to places were the risk vs the reward for pot isn't worth it. THEN you get the prices you're talking about. Are you sure you know anything about pot or did you just wake up this morning and decide to go to war with someone that's actually an expert?

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CanuckCowboy
07/27/21 11:22:37 AM
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daynlokki posted...
Ruderalis is often described as the third type of cannabis along with Cannabis sativa and Cannabis indica, although botanists are unsure whether it qualifies as a species in its own right.

Cheers.

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weekoldhotdog
07/27/21 11:23:54 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
Cheers.

You already said I was right, you can't cheers me when the quote literally says "its classified as but some people have their doubts..."

It doesn't matter if you get classified by an inch or if you get classified by a mile. CLASSIFIED IS CLASSIFIED.

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CanuckCowboy
07/27/21 11:24:01 AM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
Triple market value? Do you even know what supply and demand is? Weed, regardless of quality triples in value the further away from the grow destination it travels all the way to places were the risk vs the reward for pot isn't worth it. THEN you get the prices you're talking about. Are you sure you know anything about pot or did you just wake up this morning and decide to go to war with someone that's actually an expert?

Lmao.

So I was spot on when I said you're just coming in to say "omg guys look at me look how much I know!"

You're very special. Okay?

Also can you stick to the point? I mean clearly you can't cause you're so desperate to show off, but availability is only part of the issues regardless.

My buddy lived in Ontario for years. Weed was always available and not that much more than here. But when someone came out with some quads or triple a bc bud it went for a massive premium. Why would that be? Hmmm?

Clarification for mods - special in this context is in no way shape or form intended to reference mentally handicapped people or even as an insult. It was merely an attempt at giving hotdogs the validation he craves. It was sarcasm, not a reference to disability.

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weekoldhotdog
07/27/21 11:24:52 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
YIKES!

Oh man, imagine waking up tomorrow and realizing you got warned to weekoldhotdog.

Then imagine editing your post to be ToU correct based off something else weekoldhotdog said.

WINNING IS WINNING

btw, how does it feel to have my hand shoved up your backside this entire topic?

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CanuckCowboy
07/27/21 11:25:54 AM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
You already said I was right, you can't cheers me when the quote literally says "its classified as but some people have their doubts..."

It doesn't matter if you get classified by an inch or if you get classified by a mile. CLASSIFIED IS CLASSIFIED.

Can you read?

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CanuckCowboy
07/27/21 11:26:49 AM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
Oh man, imagine waking up tomorrow and realizing you got warned to weekoldhotdog.

Then imagine editing your post to be ToU correct based off something else weekoldhotdog said.

WINNING IS WINNING

btw, how does it feel to have my hand shoved up your backside this entire topic?

Calm down. And nothing i said was an insult let alone a warn.

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weekoldhotdog
07/27/21 11:27:35 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
Calm down. And nothing i said was an insult let alone a warn.

Implying that someone is "special" is definitely a warn. Man, put the pot down and take a break from Gamfaqs bud.

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CanuckCowboy
07/27/21 11:28:31 AM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
Implying that someone is "special" is definitely a warn. Man, put the pot down and take a break from Gamfaqs bud.

Bruh i was trying to give you the validation you're desperately seeking. It wasn't an insult or a euphemism or whatever you're choosing to take it as.

Again - calm down.

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weekoldhotdog
07/27/21 11:29:27 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
Bruh i was trying to give you the validation you're desperately seeking.

So am I, you came into this topic thirsty for hotdogs and hotdogs is what you fuckin got!

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daynlokki
07/27/21 11:29:31 AM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
You already said I was right, you can't cheers me when the quote literally says "its classified as but some people have their doubts..."

It doesn't matter if you get classified by an inch or if you get classified by a mile. CLASSIFIED IS CLASSIFIED.
Its described as. Botanists, however, who are the experts in the field do not currently believe it is.

Not once does it use the word classified.
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weekoldhotdog
07/27/21 11:30:12 AM
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daynlokki posted...
Its described as. Botanists, however, who are the experts in the field do not currently believe it is.

Not once does it use the word classified.

lmfao you're trying so hard you're not even aware that you're quoting a person and not a source

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CanuckCowboy
07/27/21 11:31:12 AM
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weekoldhotdog posted...
So am I, you came into this topic thirsty for hotdogs and hotdogs is what you fuckin got!

You're weird.

And super high strung for a supposed stoner.

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weekoldhotdog
07/27/21 11:32:10 AM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
You're weird.

And super high strung for a supposed stoner.

Are we energy shaming people now in 2021? wtf is wrong with you this morning? Did someone piss in your bowl of weed when you woke up?

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daynlokki
07/27/21 11:32:53 AM
#37:


weekoldhotdog posted...
lmfao you're trying so hard you're not even aware that you're quoting a person and not a source
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CanuckCowboy
07/27/21 11:33:29 AM
#38:


weekoldhotdog posted...
Are we energy shaming people now in 2021? wtf is wrong with you this morning? Did someone piss in your bowl of weed when you woke up?

I'd say pot meets kettle, but in this instance it's more like pot meets guy who isn't doing that at all.

You're just salty cause I'm not bowing down to your knowledge. I'm not the one being all angsty and demeaning.

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weekoldhotdog
07/27/21 11:34:00 AM
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daynlokki posted...
Says the guy who tried to quote someone and ended up making words up.

Rudaralis is a real word, sorry if this bothers you

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CanuckCowboy
07/27/21 11:34:35 AM
#40:


weekoldhotdog posted...
Rudaralis is a real word, sorry if this bothers you

*ruderalis

You're welcome.

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daynlokki
07/27/21 11:35:33 AM
#41:


weekoldhotdog posted...
Rudaralis is a real word, sorry if this bothers you
Ya, thats totally what I was talking about. You smoke yourself into oblivion this morning?

Also- Rudaralis is not a real word, its ruderalis.
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weekoldhotdog
07/27/21 11:36:12 AM
#42:


CanuckCowboy posted...
I'd say pot meets kettle, but in this instance it's more like pot meets guy who isn't doing that at all.

You're just salty cause I'm not bowing down to your knowledge. I'm not the one being all angsty and demeaning.

Oh you're not, are you? But you did bow down to my knowledge when you acknowledged that (and I quote) "Technically you're right." From post number 12.

Instead of bowing down to my knowledge of mari-juana, maybe you should bow down to the fact that you already lost and now you've come back because you've got buyer's remorse.

Too bad. All TRANSACTIONS are FINAL.

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whitelytning
07/27/21 11:36:49 AM
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@weekoldhotdog you need to smoke a bit and take it down a notch for this topic's sake. Its a weed topic, relax.

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weekoldhotdog
07/27/21 11:37:08 AM
#44:


whitelytning posted...
@weekoldhotdog you need to smoke a bit and take it down a notch for this topic's sake. Its a weed topic, relax.

Suck my joint.

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daynlokki
07/27/21 11:38:34 AM
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Someone smoked a joint that was laced with some other shit lmao.
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whitelytning
07/27/21 11:46:34 AM
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I got into weed late, once I could do it legally really. I smoked as a kid every once in a while but was never really into it. Now I use edibles several time a week to help me relax and the high feels good when I want that but I'm still confused on the strains a little.

Question - I buy edibles that are mostly indica because I use it to mostly zone out and end the day. I have tried hybrids and both strains and feel like there is a definite difference but was talking to someone that told me otherwise and said that the strain doesn't matter for edibles. Is that true? Is it just advertising and placebo or does the strain make a difference with edibles?

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doomcrusader
07/27/21 11:56:03 AM
#48:


whitelytning posted...
I got into weed late, once I could do it legally really. I smoked as a kid every once in a while but was never really into it. Now I use edibles several time a week to help me relax and the high feels good when I want that but I'm still confused on the strains a little.

Question - I buy edibles that are mostly indica because I use it to mostly zone out and end the day. I have tried hybrids and both strains and feel like there is a definite difference but was talking to someone that told me otherwise and said that the strain doesn't matter for edibles. Is that true? Is it just advertising and placebo or does the strain make a difference with edibles?

My question too. I've only had hybrid edibles, and I'm curious how it might differ from the other 2.

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CanuckCowboy
07/27/21 12:00:48 PM
#49:


Don't take this as gospel but my understanding from people who work in the industry is that in large scale production there's not really a lot of effort made into separating trimmings so when you're getting edibles they're generally going to be a mix of both regardless of what the packaging claims.

Like if you make brownies at home using indica or sativa you'll notice the difference, but when it's mass produced the difference is likely much less due to the way things get mixed together.

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weekoldhotdog
07/27/21 12:07:22 PM
#50:


CanuckCowboy posted...
Don't take this as gospel but my understanding from people who work in the industry is that in large scale production there's not really a lot of effort made into separating trimmings so when you're getting edibles they're generally going to be a mix of both regardless of what the packaging claims.

Like if you make brownies at home using indica or sativa you'll notice the difference, but when it's mass produced the difference is likely much less due to the way things get mixed together.


You're right, don't take this as anything but pure fiction. Professional growers use massive harvesting/trimming machines to cut up their bud for drying. I'm sorry but unless you live in someplace like Mexico or Canada, I assure you that your bud isn't being picked up on the floor and used in your edibles.

in fact, you'll notice the difference more if you use indica because of it's "couch-locky" nature of making you feel impaired. On the flip side, Sativa gives you an energetic "head high' that tends to fade without actually affecting much of the rest of your body (muscles, joints, etc)

Now as your body metabolizes the THC and breaks it down to lesser compounds you'll metabolize that cannabinoids slightly different than you would if you were smoking it. You'll not get a definitive "oh hey, yeah, I just got high" like a switch was flipped on, no. Instead, it will "creep" up on you. The fact that it "creeps" makes it hard to distinguish if you're getting a body or a head high, but if you take ENOUGH of the concentrate (100mgs is plenty, but in my state, the most you can get in a single edible is 50mg unless you have a medical card) so you might have to double up to actually *feel* anything substantial.

ALSO: Keep in mind that eating cannabis is more for people that cannot handle the intensity of smoking or vaping pot. People that have serious raspatory issues, for instance, would benefit from eating cannabis more than they would from smoking it, despite the fact that smoking THC is quicker acting, causing more damage to the lungs for the person who's susceptible to it.

Hope this helps!

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CanuckCowboy
07/27/21 12:11:08 PM
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I found two articles that seem to at least somewhat support what he said. Both from American production.

https://www.periodicedibles.com/blog/sativa-and-indica

https://www.thehigherpath.com/does-sativaindicahybrid-really-matter-in-edibles/

The guy who told me this knows more about weed than you think you know so while it could be nonsense id lean towards there being some truth in it.

And no one said anything about picking it off the floor bud. Why do you keep going on about random stuff no one said, or which isn't relayed to the discussion?


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