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Doe
07/22/21 2:35:00 PM
#153:


The hadoken is referenced in family guy several times, Kamehameha never.

Video game sales is a terrible measurement of this since Street Fighter got famous in the arcade.

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MrNintendo1213
07/22/21 2:35:10 PM
#154:


Swagnet0 posted...
this. it's just young vs old at the end of the day.
There are more of that younger group though. Which is a big reason dbz is more iconic to more people.

It is people in a specific age range around like 34-40 vs. everyone younger. Thats just in america too. Dragon Ball was big in the 80s and early 90s in other places.

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Xethuminra
07/22/21 2:37:06 PM
#155:


Having cameos doesnt make you more iconic anyway tbh.

Maybe DBZ asks for too much money for that sort of thing

Maybe theyre notorious to sue

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Tyranthraxus
07/22/21 2:38:23 PM
#156:


jeffhardyb0yz posted...
there has literally been no metric to suggest this other than personal "anecdotes" about people doing hadoukens while play fighting

And like thousands of pop culture references compared to next to nothing for the Kamehameha.

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Tyranthraxus
07/22/21 2:39:32 PM
#157:


Xethuminra posted...
Having cameos doesnt make you more iconic anyway tbh.

Maybe DBZ asks for too much money for that sort of thing

Maybe theyre notorious to sue

You dont know!

"Oh we wanted a DBZ insert but couldn't afford it so we went with SF instead" is not only something that never happened but if it did happen it just means at this point the Hadoken is more iconic anyway.

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Xethuminra
07/22/21 2:39:56 PM
#158:


Pretty sure DBZ popularized energy blasts from the hand anyway, folks..............
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dave_is_slick
07/22/21 2:41:28 PM
#159:


modena posted...
I honestly came in here and voted thinking you guys are talking about King Kamehameha that ruled Hawaii. Never watched DBZ...
No you didn't.

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Tyranthraxus
07/22/21 2:41:33 PM
#160:


Xethuminra posted...
Pretty sure DBZ popularized energy blasts from the hand anyway, folks..............

That's been a thing in Anime since astroboy.


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Xethuminra
07/22/21 2:41:50 PM
#161:


Tyranthraxus posted...
That's been a thing in Anime since astroboy.
*popularized

Iron Man, you said?
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Tyranthraxus
07/22/21 2:43:21 PM
#162:


Xethuminra posted...
*popularized

Iron Man, you said?

What the fuck does iron man have to do with this?

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Xethuminra
07/22/21 2:44:10 PM
#163:


Astro Boy
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Tyranthraxus
07/22/21 2:45:01 PM
#164:


I'm just gonna not respond until you say something that makes sense.

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Xethuminra
07/22/21 2:45:46 PM
#165:


You dont think Astro Boy & Iron Man have a relationship with the flying & energy blasts?

Okay.

Maybe they dont
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Swagnet0
07/22/21 2:45:47 PM
#166:


Doe posted...
The hadoken is referenced in family guy several times, Kamehameha never.

Video game sales is a terrible measurement of this since Street Fighter got famous in the arcade.
thank you

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Swagnet0
07/22/21 2:46:26 PM
#167:


MrNintendo1213 posted...
There are more of that younger group though.
Only on CE

every other board I make this thread they agree that hadoken is easily far more iconic. that's why I'm laughing at these millenial CEmen

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Ratchetrockon
07/22/21 2:46:54 PM
#168:


Doe posted...
The hadoken is referenced in family guy several times, Kamehameha never.

Video game sales is a terrible measurement of this since Street Fighter got famous in the arcade.

it just seems like hadouken/ hadoken is more popular within the gen x people.

if you go on tiktok and search #kamehameha and #hadoken/ #hadouken the former generates 123m views vs 6m views for the latter.

even checking hashtag tracker sites for instagram and twitter #kamehameha is more popular.

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Xethuminra
07/22/21 2:46:58 PM
#169:


You guys think Kentaro Miura played Street Fighter & Fist of the North Star together?
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dave_is_slick
07/22/21 2:50:55 PM
#170:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Honestly, judging by pure sales numbers, Mortal Kombat might be more popular than Street Fighter atm
Semi related, as a kid I knew NO ONE that had a Street Fighter game. It was always Tekken and MK. I think people are overestimating it's popularity. It's not like arcades were dead yet when I was little.

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MrNintendo1213
07/22/21 2:51:00 PM
#171:


Swagnet0 posted...
Only on CE

every other board I make this thread they agree that hadoken is easily far more iconic. that's why I'm laughing at these millenial CEmen
More people in somewhere around a 9 year age group than one that is everyone under 30? It sounds like you don't care about how iconic they are for everyone, only people close to your age.

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yemmy
07/22/21 2:54:15 PM
#172:


dave_is_slick posted...
Semi related, as a kid I knew NO ONE that had a Street Fighter game. It was always Tekken and MK. I think people are overestimating it's popularity. It's not like arcades were dead yet when I was little.

You obviously didn't grow up with Sega Genesis/Snes

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Xethuminra
07/22/21 2:54:49 PM
#173:


Im starting to think theres 2 schools of thought here, which is fair.

but one is clearly bigger than the other so.....
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Tyranthraxus
07/22/21 2:55:53 PM
#174:


Ratchetrockon posted...
it just seems like hadouken/ hadoken is more popular within the gen x people.

if you go on tiktok and search #kamehameha and #hadoken/ #hadouken the former generates 123m views vs 6m views for the latter.

even checking hashtag tracker sites for instagram and twitter #kamehameha is more popular.
Hashtag metrics are a reflection of current trends. Seeing as we are still getting new Goku mangas and Street Fighter has been stagnant for a while the current trending numbers are not representative of the overall cultural impact.

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dave_is_slick
07/22/21 2:57:09 PM
#175:


yemmy posted...
You obviously didn't grow up with Sega Genesis/Snes
I have two older cousins who got my dad's genesis years before I was born. My mom, for some reason, had a Super Nintendo. I stand by what I said.

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Xethuminra
07/22/21 2:58:15 PM
#176:


Id bet my 2 front teeth Kamehameha is more memorable to people who arent even into this sort of stuff anymore
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Swagnet0
07/22/21 2:58:19 PM
#177:


dave_is_slick posted...
Semi related, as a kid I knew NO ONE that had a Street Fighter game.
the you're a younger millenial.

you realize tekken and mk... are derivatives of sf, right?

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dave_is_slick
07/22/21 2:58:22 PM
#178:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Hashtag metrics are a reflection of current trends. Seeing as we are still getting new Goku mangas and Street Fighter has been stagnant for a while the current trending numbers are not representative of the overall cultural impact.
Which is still nothing compared to Dragon Ball.

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BipBapBam
07/22/21 2:59:09 PM
#179:


The denial and excuses for SF are unreal lmao

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dave_is_slick
07/22/21 2:59:18 PM
#180:


Swagnet0 posted...
the you're a younger millenial.

you realize tekken and mk... are derivatives of sf, right?
Absolutely. That means nothing.

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dave_is_slick
07/22/21 2:59:31 PM
#181:


BipBapBam posted...
The denial and excuses for SF are unreal lmao
For real.

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Tyranthraxus
07/22/21 3:00:56 PM
#182:


dave_is_slick posted...
Which is still nothing compared to Dragon Ball.

Dragon Ball is very clearly more popular than Street Fighter but that's not the topic being discussed here. It's Hadoken vs Kamehameha.

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Swagnet0
07/22/21 3:02:06 PM
#183:


whens the last time kamehameha was parodied or referenced in pop culture?

oh ok

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dave_is_slick
07/22/21 3:03:13 PM
#184:


Swagnet0 posted...
whens the last time kamehameha was parodied or referenced in pop culture?

oh ok
Gumball

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Xethuminra
07/22/21 3:03:52 PM
#185:


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Swagnet0
07/22/21 3:05:18 PM
#186:


lmao

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dave_is_slick
07/22/21 3:05:47 PM
#187:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Dragon Ball is very clearly more popular than Street Fighter but that's not the topic being discussed here. It's Hadoken vs Kamehameha.
...thank you for proving that the kamehameha is more popular. The signituare attack of the main character and most of his friends in the more popular franchise is SOMEHOW less popular than the signature attack of what, two people?

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Tyranthraxus
07/22/21 3:10:44 PM
#188:


dave_is_slick posted...
...thank you for proving that the kamehameha is more popular. The signituare attack of the main character and most of his friends in the more popular franchise is SOMEHOW less popular than the signature attack of what, two people?

An individual thing in a show can be much less iconic than the show itself obviously.

Likewise a thing from an unpopular series can be iconic. The popularity of "The Cake is a Lie" vastly outpaces the popularity of Portal.

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Ratchetrockon
07/22/21 3:24:10 PM
#189:




When drake did this stance in the music video of Chris Brown's "No Guidance" more ppl were referring to this as a kamehameha than a hadouken on twitter and instagram.It was never specified what he did either.

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yemmy
07/22/21 3:24:49 PM
#190:


dave_is_slick posted...
I have two older cousins who got my dad's genesis years before I was born. My mom, for some reason, had a Super Nintendo. I stand by what I said.

So basically you weren't around when SF2 was popular. Got it

Also in Biggie's "Juicy" video, what video game is on the screen when he says "Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis"?

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Scotty_Rogers
07/22/21 3:29:29 PM
#192:


Dragon Ball is significantly more popular and successful than Street Fighter (btw, Street Fighter is trash. Virtua Fighter is a real man's fighting game!)

Kamehameha is the signature, trademark attack of Dragon Ball.

This isn't even a question. Virgin Kamehameha > Even Bigger Virgin Hadoken.

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Tyranthraxus
07/22/21 3:35:37 PM
#193:


jeffhardyb0yz posted...
and worldwide google trends data, tik tok search data, recent sales, etc that was posted showing Goku and kamehameha were searched and trending far more worldwide over the past year than Ryu and Hadouken. Google trends data still has Goku/kamehameha destroying if we go further beyond 1 year. This is measurable data, not oh we did that as kids or there were pop culture references! Still waiting on any kind of measurable, verified metric in hadouken/ryus favor. So far, not one person has been able to provide lmao. Until then, this debate is finished. Stick a fork in it.

I already addressed trends metrics in post 174

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voldothegr8
07/22/21 3:40:48 PM
#194:


Tyranthraxus posted...


I already addressed trends metrics in post 174

Except the further back you go the wider the gap in favor of Kamehameha.

Btw kamehameha is an auto suggest on my phone while hadoken is nowhere to be found.
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pauIie
07/22/21 3:41:04 PM
#195:


sf > dbz but it's the kamehameha

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Tyranthraxus
07/22/21 3:44:27 PM
#197:


voldothegr8 posted...
Except the further back you go the wider the gap in favor of Kamehameha.

Btw kamehameha is an auto suggest on my phone while hadoken is nowhere to be found.
Hadoken has it's own Wikipedia page. Kamehameha will redirect you to the page for Goku which is something that happens when a subject is considered too insignificant to warrant its own page.

And your phone's autocorrect is suggesting Kamehameha because it's the name of a Hawaiian dynasty.

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Tyranthraxus
07/22/21 3:47:01 PM
#199:


I just gave you a metric. Hadoken Wikipedia pages=1 Kamehameha Wikipedia pages=0

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BipBapBam
07/22/21 3:48:45 PM
#201:


The excuses just keep on coming... at least the poll results are as much of a steamroll as reality is on this subject

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Skywalkah
07/22/21 3:50:38 PM
#202:


jeffhardyb0yz posted...
this debate is finished. Stick a fork in it.


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