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Rhylos posted...

Stupid people are going to stupid. You'd need 1984 levels of control to keep them out of their echo chamber. Censorship is bad and it's a really dangerous slippery slope to get on. Just let people do their own thing jfc, and only censor things that're actually illegal (calls to action, cp, etc.)

I'm sure none of ya'll would like it if censorship policies were enacted and then republicans win the next cycle. Suddenly ya'll will be anti-censorship if it's the big bad republicans in charge of it, and I'll be right there with you. Fuck censorship.

Who is being censored for being a Republican? My life is basically over if a Republican wins again though.

I'm sorry you think people killing each other with deliberate misinformation is a valid option we need to protect because slippery slope horseshit.

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Trumble posted...

There are two options.

Option one, you allow all information including "misinformation". (This doesn't mean you don't flag it or call it out etc.)

Option two, you designate someone the arbiter of what is or isn't fact. And then hope like hell that the people who peddle what you (in this particular case, rightly so) see as "misinformation" don't in the future take the place of those arbiters.

There is no physically possible way to ensure that only the actual truth can ever be spread - because any possible system of censoring misinformation relies on having someone to decide what is or isn't misinformation. And just because someone you trust is in that position when the system is first set up, doesn't mean the next person who takes over will be as trustworthy. Heck, just think about what would happen if, say, the Trump administration had been in charge of deciding what is or isn't "truth" and allowed to be posted on social media.

Fight misinformation by teaching people how to see the fuck through it.

Well said.

Rhylos posted...

Stupid people are going to stupid. You'd need 1984 levels of control to keep them out of their echo chamber. Censorship is bad and it's a really dangerous slippery slope to get on. Just let people do their own thing jfc, and only censor things that're actually illegal (calls to action, cp, etc.)

I'm sure none of ya'll would like it if censorship policies were enacted and then republicans win the next cycle. Suddenly ya'll will be anti-censorship if it's the big bad republicans in charge of it, and I'll be right there with you. Fuck censorship.

Yeah, censorship (particularly of opinions and ideas) creates far more problems than it solves.

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hockeybub89 posted...

Who is being censored for being a Republican? My life is basically over if a Republican wins again though

How do you figure?

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joe40001 posted...

How do you figure?

The abolition of all civil rights

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joe40001 posted...

Well said.

Yeah, censorship (particularly of opinions and ideas) creates far more problems than it solves.

"Breathing clean air allows the Gates mind control nanomachines inside"

*idiots die or kill their children*

"Do you have a problem, Big Brother? I have a right to share ideas. Not my fault if idiots listen to me and spread my bullshit across the country"

Everyone says everything that farts out of their brain and you're worried about the unspoken true agenda behind silencing anti-vaxxing conspiracy theories.

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It is not censorship to express anger toward or criticize a company contributing to a public health crisis.

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hockeybub89 posted...

The abolition of all civil rights

I don't think that would pass.

The voting access stuff is shady though, that does have me concerned.

But otherwise I think your civil rights are largely safe.

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I'm sitting here reading this topic while watching SVU and I hear Biden talking.

I never saw this. WTF. He interacted with Benson and then disappeared.

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joe40001 posted...

I don't think that would pass.

The voting access stuff is shady though, that does have me concerned.

But otherwise I think your civil rights are largely safe.

With the current level of fuckery from the GOP they're trying to chip away at civil rights and the Voting Rights Act is the most visible of the backlash politics agenda. We are fighting the same battle for the VRA as my parents' and grandparents' generation. They see the changing demographics on the horizon and are doing whatever they can to stem that, with a compliant SC and after packing the Federal courts I wouldn't put anything past them.

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Taharqa_ posted...

With the current level of fuckery from the GOP they're trying to chip away at civil rights and the Voting Rights Act is the most visible of the backlash politics agenda. We are fighting the same battle for the VRA as my parents' and grandparents' generation. They see the changing demographics on the horizon and are doing whatever they can to stem that, with a compliant SC and after packing the Federal courts I wouldn't put anything past them.

I think it's more of a power grab than an attempt to take away civil rights, I think they see the writing on the wall when it comes to demographics and so they think the only way to win is to stack the deck. It's shitty, for sure, and something we need to fight, but I don't see them stealing civil rights as part of their endgame just whatever they have to do to maintain power, outside of that they want to slid back into the darkness and wield power from the shadows while they get most people to fight about inane shit.

NGL, I'm concerned about their power on the courts, and I'm concerned about their fucking with democracy.

The one small concilation is that I don't think they are racist or want to turn the country fascist, they just want to maintain their power.

It's a money/power/class thing more than a civil rights thing IMO. Which is still very bad and something we should all fight against.

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