Current Events > Is it immoral to pirate a fan translation of a game that never got released

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MachineJaipur 07/16/21 1:57:32 PM #1:	Overseas? Yes, you did not pay for the game and thus it is immoral Kind of, you could buy a non-translated copy at least Not really, you did not pay but you also have no legal path to purchase No, you have no legal path to purchase due to no fault of your own Pirating is never immoral to begin with Overseas? - Results (48 votes) Yes, you did not pay for the game and thus it is immoral 4.17% (2 votes) 2 Kind of, you could buy a non-translated copy at least 4.17% (2 votes) 2 Not really, you did not pay but you also have no legal path to purchase 10.42% (5 votes) 5 No, you have no legal path to purchase due to no fault of your own 56.25% (27 votes) 27 Pirating is never immoral to begin with 25% (12 votes) 12 Is it immoral or does the failure of the developers to provide a legal method to obtain their game in an accessible format absolve you of any possible moral failings? <cite>MachineJaipur posted [p:956146988] in Is it immo... [t:79567623]...</cite> <quote> Overseas? Yes, you did not pay for the game and thus it is immoral Kind of, you could buy a non-translated copy at least Not really, you did not pay but you also have no legal path to purchase No, you have no legal path to purchase due to no fault of your own Pirating is never immoral to begin with Vote View Results Overseas? - Results (48 votes) Yes, you did not pay for the game and thus it is immoral 4.17% (2 votes) 2 Kind of, you could buy a non-translated copy at least 4.17% (2 votes) 2 Not really, you did not pay but you also have no legal path to purchase 10.42% (5 votes) 5 No, you have no legal path to purchase due to no fault of your own 56.25% (27 votes) 27 Pirating is never immoral to begin with 25% (12 votes) 12 Show Voting Form Is it immoral or does the failure of the developers to provide a legal method to obtain their game in an accessible format absolve you of any possible moral failings? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/16/21 1:58:46 PM #2:	This the same legal gray-area as abandonware. I don't think morality is really involved at all. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:956147038] in Is it immo... [t:79567623]...</cite> <quote>This the same legal gray-area as abandonware. I don't think morality is really involved at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
philsov 07/16/21 2:00:44 PM #3:	Usually, the average fan translation is made available a generation+ later, when the only way to gain the game at that point is a secondary market like a used game store, rather than direct purchase from the developer. --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. <cite>philsov posted [p:956147094] in Is it immo... [t:79567623]...</cite> <quote>Usually, the average fan translation is made available a generation+ later, when the only way to gain the game at that point is a secondary market like a used game store, rather than direct purchase from the developer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJPurple 07/16/21 2:04:04 PM #4:	Option 4 If you are not going to let me do it the right way then ima take it --- Long Term Effects of Suffering - 8/13/21 #G59 <cite>SSJPurple posted [p:956147202] in Is it immo... [t:79567623]...</cite> <quote>Option 4 If you are not going to let me do it the right way then ima take it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xavier_On_High 07/16/21 2:07:33 PM #5:	Questionmarktarius posted... I don't think morality is really involved at all. No, I'm sure Kant or Socrates would be awake all night wondering whether a few neckbeards pirating games constitutes the ultimate immorality. --- http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltnafhjcUz1qmxswbo1_500.gif <cite>Xavier_On_High posted [p:956147325] in Is it immo... [t:79567623]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>I don't think morality is really involved at all.</quote> No, I'm sure Kant or Socrates would be awake all night wondering whether a few neckbeards pirating games constitutes the ultimate immorality. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/16/21 2:11:18 PM #6:	Xavier_On_High posted... No, I'm sure Kant or Socrates would be awake all night wondering whether a few neckbeards pirating games constitutes the ultimate immorality. Something about a cave and candles, or something. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:956147443] in Is it immo... [t:79567623]...</cite> <quote>Xavier_On_High posted... </cite> <quote>No, I'm sure Kant or Socrates would be awake all night wondering whether a few neckbeards pirating games constitutes the ultimate immorality.</quote>Something about a cave and candles, or something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Relient_K 07/16/21 2:26:03 PM #7:	It's basically the only time I would feel comfortable with pirating, especially if it's a long abandoned series. They clearly do not want your money as there is no way for you to give it to them. --- We all ate the biscuits, Fighter. We can all see through time. [ER] <cite>Relient_K posted [p:956147926] in Is it immo... [t:79567623]...</cite> <quote>It's basically the only time I would feel comfortable with pirating, especially if it's a long abandoned series. They clearly do not want your money as there is no way for you to give it to them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nemu 07/16/21 2:29:48 PM #8:	If its legally available for direct purchase, purchasing the original version would be the upstanding thing to do even if you never touch it. If something has no legal direct path for purchase, I see no moral issue whatsoever. <cite>Nemu posted [p:956148032] in Is it immo... [t:79567623]...</cite> <quote>If its legally available for direct purchase, purchasing the original version would be the upstanding thing to do even if you never touch it. If something has no legal direct path for purchase, I see no moral issue whatsoever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 07/16/21 3:01:25 PM #10:	Its 100% not. Im honestly a very big anti-piracy person, but if there is absolutely no way to obtain something from a legitimate first party source, then I see absolutely no harm in obtaining it by other means. --- Bah weep grannah weep ni ni bon <cite>rexcrk posted [p:956148924] in Is it immo... [t:79567623]...</cite> <quote>Its 100% not. Im honestly a very big anti-piracy person, but if there is absolutely no way to obtain something from a legitimate first party source, then I see absolutely no harm in obtaining it by other means. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sabrestorm 07/16/21 3:03:48 PM #11:	My question is why care about morals? <cite>sabrestorm posted [p:956149011] in Is it immo... [t:79567623]...</cite> <quote>My question is why care about morals? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Protopet 07/16/21 3:05:02 PM #12:	There are a few situations where I am anti piracy. This isn't one of them --- I should go. <cite>Protopet posted [p:956149054] in Is it immo... [t:79567623]...</cite> <quote>There are a few situations where I am anti piracy. This isn't one of them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 07/16/21 3:07:56 PM #13:	Cpt_Pineapple posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I26Ql-uX6AM --- Intel 486, Integrated videocard, 16MB RAM, 64MB HD, 3 1/4 inch floppy <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:956149155] in Is it immo... [t:79567623]...</cite> <quote>Cpt_Pineapple posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY</quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I26Ql-uX6AM </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 07/16/21 3:13:46 PM #14:	I personally don't see an issue with it if there's legitimately no legal method of purchasing the product. As mentioned earlier, it's a grey area legally speaking. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:956149351] in Is it immo... [t:79567623]...</cite> <quote>I personally don't see an issue with it if there's legitimately no legal method of purchasing the product. As mentioned earlier, it's a grey area legally speaking. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YugiNoob 07/16/21 3:30:04 PM #15:	Hold on how do they do something like that? I mean I only imported Japanese games, but how do other countries keep people from buying their games? --- Bun bun :3 <cite>YugiNoob posted [p:956149878] in Is it immo... [t:79567623]...</cite> <quote>Hold on how do they do something like that? I mean I only imported Japanese games, but how do other countries keep people from buying their games? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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