Current Events > Having Quark on Deep Space Nine is basically cheating for Star Trek

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Doe
07/15/21 9:39:54 PM
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He opens the door for so many stories they couldn't easily tell in TNG, and he may have the most episodes out of all the supporting cast, at least in the first four seasons.

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HairyQueen
07/16/21 2:29:24 AM
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Bad_Mojo
07/16/21 2:30:10 AM
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Want to fill me in? I haven't seen a single episode or movie from Star Trek

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Doe
07/16/21 2:36:15 AM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
Want to fill me in? I haven't seen a single episode or movie from Star Trek
The Federation of Planets and its diplomacy/military division Starfleet, are a bunch of goody two shoes. Humanity has outgrown greed, wrath, gluttony, etc. Basically everyone on board the Enterprise spaceship (where Picard is and TNG takes place) are Starfleet officers who live to cooperate and explore the galaxy and make friends with aliens.

The show Deep Space Nine takes place on a dinky satellite on the outskirts of deep space, orbiting a planet that just got decolonized by a terrible fascist power called Cardassia. The show deals with a lot of darker subjects and war stuff as a result.

Quark is a bartender on the station, the only member of the main cast who is not enrolled in Starfleet or an officer of Cardassia or Bajor. Instead, he's a Ferengi which are a merchant people whose culture values profit above anything else. He's practically an antagonist with all the schemes he cooks up, but the chief of security keeps him around in order to catch the bigger fish that go through him.

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Atralis
07/16/21 2:43:17 AM
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The guy playing him, Armin Shimerman, is a fantastic actor playing the role of his life.
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jumi
07/16/21 5:27:25 AM
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Also Bashir pronounces his name like "Quahhhhhhk."

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Doe
07/16/21 5:36:43 AM
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S5E3 Quark is just straight up asking Dax how to have sex with Klingons

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monday nitro
07/16/21 5:38:18 AM
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I met Armin Shimmerman at a convention once and he was really nice. I told him I was a big Quark fan (cause he really is my fav on dS9) and he signed a picture saying he was a big *my name* fan. it amused me

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UnholyMudcrab
07/16/21 5:45:00 AM
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Quark in particular did a lot to rehabilitate the Ferengi after how terrible they were in TNG
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UnfairRepresent
07/16/21 5:50:16 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Quark in particular did a lot to rehabilitate the Ferengi after how terrible they were in TNG
Yeah that was intentional from the actor

The Ferengi were supposed to be a serious new threat in TNG, in fact one is like "I'd rather die before I surrendered to you!" but the actors played them so foolishly and goofy that they became jokes

He used Quark as a way to add more dimensions and make up for ruining them

and succeeded imo

I love that scene where he's explaining to a Vulcan how stupid terrorism is. As well as their peace treaty with the Dominion. It actually sells the Ferengi society as something that could exist

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008Zulu
07/16/21 7:09:43 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Quark in particular did a lot to rehabilitate the Ferengi after how terrible they were in TNG
Rom and Nagus set them back again though.

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UnfairRepresent
07/16/21 7:14:36 AM
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008Zulu posted...
Rom and Nagus set them back again though.
They were fine

What's wrong with Rom and Nagus?

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Doe
07/16/21 7:16:32 AM
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008Zulu posted...
Rom and Nagus set them back again though.
Rom is fantastic

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008Zulu
07/16/21 8:08:04 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
They were fine

What's wrong with Rom and Nagus?
Nagus's voice is like nails on a chalkboard for me. I physically cannot stand it. Plus his character was weak, aside from showing up to make trouble for Quark, he didn't add anything of value.
Rom, he started off as your usual human hating Ferengi with adequate room for character development. Then they rewrote him to be some idiot who also seemed to make trouble for Quark.

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Medussa
07/16/21 8:18:46 AM
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008Zulu posted...
Nagus's voice is like nails on a chalkboard for me. I physically cannot stand it.

inconceivable

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hitokoriX
07/16/21 8:38:03 AM
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The House of Quark. What an episode.

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Cheater87
07/16/21 8:57:25 AM
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I need to finish that series.

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Doe
07/16/21 2:40:08 PM
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008Zulu posted...
Then they rewrote him to be some idiot who also seemed to make trouble for Quark.
No, they rewrote him to be an engineering marvel who loves his son and whose exposeal to Starfloot has left him willing to challenge Ferengi customs

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solosnake
07/16/21 2:42:57 PM
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DS9 is the only star trek ive kind of enjoyed, but is really annoying how almost every episode doesnt matter in the end. It always ties up neatly and its like nothing matters. Id enjoy it much more if it had a continuing story arch from episode to episode

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Medussa
07/16/21 2:53:03 PM
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solosnake posted...
DS9 is the only star trek ive kind of enjoyed, but is really annoying how almost every episode doesnt matter in the end. It always ties up neatly and its like nothing matters. Id enjoy it much more if it had a continuing story arch from episode to episode

serialized storytelling was really hard to do in the syndication era, but i'd say DS9 did it as much as they could.

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ScazarMeltex
07/16/21 2:55:13 PM
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Doe posted...
Rom is fantastic
The episode where he unionizes the workers in Quark's bar and quotes Marx is top tier.

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Vultis_Zales
07/16/21 3:09:09 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Yeah that was intentional from the actor

The Ferengi were supposed to be a serious new threat in TNG, in fact one is like "I'd rather die before I surrendered to you!" but the actors played them so foolishly and goofy that they became jokes

He used Quark as a way to add more dimensions and make up for ruining them

and succeeded imo

I love that scene where he's explaining to a Vulcan how stupid terrorism is. As well as their peace treaty with the Dominion. It actually sells the Ferengi society as something that could exist

I have to agree can i get the IMDB qoute for taht scene im having trouble remembering it?


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nothanks1
07/16/21 3:22:32 PM
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The Nagus did his role quite well.
remember that their society is based around money. Quark isn't as greedy and corrupt so having Nagus there showed Quark in a more favourable light.
It's like hi Worf was the super Klingon all about honour and culture but then you realise unless you put him next to people like Martok, he's actually pretty fucking decent.
Same with most 'alien' characters.

Compare Tuvok to most Vulcans and its the same.
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SSJ2GrimReaper
07/16/21 3:22:44 PM
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Quark and Nog best ferengi

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Ruvan22
07/16/21 3:48:41 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Yeah that was intentional from the actor

The Ferengi were supposed to be a serious new threat in TNG, in fact one is like "I'd rather die before I surrendered to you!" but the actors played them so foolishly and goofy that they became jokes

He used Quark as a way to add more dimensions and make up for ruining them

and succeeded imo

I love that scene where he's explaining to a Vulcan how stupid terrorism is. As well as their peace treaty with the Dominion. It actually sells the Ferengi society as something that could exist

You know this is making me want to watch DS9 - seen every TNG ep hundreds of times but only like.. six DS9 eps (including the awesome one where the station transformed in the battle against the Klingons). I remember how.. slipshod the depictions of Ferengis were in TNG.
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Medussa
07/16/21 3:50:51 PM
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do it do it do it do it do it. it's so good

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Ruvan22
07/16/21 3:54:30 PM
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Medussa posted...
do it do it do it do it do it. it's so good

Haha okay I think I was a bit apprehensive as I got the impression it became the "Sisko Marty Sue" show with him becoming a prophet etc
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Medussa
07/16/21 3:55:18 PM
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just remember, Star Trek season 1s are... rough.

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sabrestorm
07/16/21 3:55:57 PM
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I hate tng, especially data that spock wannabe
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SSJ2GrimReaper
07/16/21 4:10:58 PM
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sabrestorm posted...
I hate tng, especially data that spock wannabe
Watch it for Riker's facial hair and Q appearances

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nothanks1
07/16/21 4:12:36 PM
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Watch TNG for Troi's tits, ass abs accent
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jumi
07/17/21 3:44:06 AM
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nothanks1 posted...
Watch TNG for Troi's tits, ass abs accent

Beverly Crusher was a million times hotter.

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What_
07/17/21 3:48:28 AM
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jumi posted...
Beverly Crusher was a million times hotter.
Lets just agree that they were both hot
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jumi
07/17/21 3:54:23 AM
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What_ posted...
Lets just agree that they were both hot

https://youtu.be/BXdu6C3Qoro

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008Zulu
07/17/21 7:43:59 AM
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jumi posted...
https://youtu.be/BXdu6C3Qoro
The people who designed that pink leotard knew exactly what they were doing.

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Kaldrenthebold
07/17/21 8:04:38 AM
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DS9 is amazing. I just finished episode 11 of season 5 yesterday. Weird how they completely change uniforms and no one mentioned anything lol

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