Current Events > 1st prison sentence handed down for a capitol rioter... ... ...

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https://www.wrcbtv.com/story/44296655/capitol-rioter-with-ties-to-whi
te-supremacist-gang-pleads-guilty-sentenced-to-6-months-in-jail-with
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He got a plea deal for one count of unlawfully protesting inside the Capitol. 6 months prison, $500 fine to help pay to repair the damages caused.

• Dude just got out of prison for attempted murder a couple years ago
• He got credit for time served, so he's either already released or going to be released today.

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Seems fair it's not like he was a black man with a single joint. That's the kind of thing you need to do to warrant a couple years in jail.

'Justice' system is such a joke.

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And he'll do it again in four years.

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CableZL posted...

Dude just got out of prison for attempted murder a couple years ago

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CableZL posted...

Dude just got out of prison for attempted murder a couple years ago

Very fine people

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load of BS. they're giving him the red carpet treatment. key to the city and everything.

sentence should be longer.
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Fucking pathetic.

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What a "very fine person" this guy is.
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Only 6 months....

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sounds like a slap on the wrist if anything...

Judge:(wagging finger and speaking in a tone one would use with a mildly disobedient child) Now don't you do that again, young man.

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$500 for terrorism?

Imagine if we treated them like that during 9/11

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They're probably afraid to throw the book at them.

Being accused of oppressing free speech or something.

Won't ever take away what they did. They're treasonous traitors to their countries and deserve worse than they'll ever get.

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Lenient but expected. He should sit 25 years in the pen before they even think about letting him out.

Instead, he'll spend 6 months with neo-Nazis and more than a few COs who will lionize him. He'll come out worse than he went in and will have to be dealt with again.

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brestugo posted...

Lenient but expected. He should sit 25 years in the pen before they even think about letting him out.

Instead, he'll spend 6 months with neo-Nazis and more than a few COs who will lionize him. He'll come out worse than he went in and will have to be dealt with again.

He's gonna be getting out today if he's not already out because of the credit for time served. He already joined the neo-nazis in his previous prison sentence.

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Considering he already had attempted murder on his record shouldve been life with no chance of parole.

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CableZL posted...

He's gonna be getting out today if he's not already out because of the credit for time served. He already joined the neo-nazis in his previous prison sentence.

Just when I think I am too cynical and pessimistic, reality leads me to believe I'm actually too nave.

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Ideological platitudes aside, you can only sentence somebody for crimes they actually committed. If all he did was walk into the building and yell about stuff, there's not much of a crime there.

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Gobstoppers12 posted...

Ideological platitudes aside, you can only sentence somebody for crimes they actually committed. If all he did was walk into the building and yell about stuff, there's not much of a crime there.

Disrupting a political process via threats of violence and terror should come with a harsher description than "walk into the building and yell about stuff"

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Gobstoppers12 posted...

Ideological platitudes aside, you can only sentence somebody for crimes they actually committed. If all he did was walk into the building and yell about stuff, there's not much of a crime there.

Shut the fuck up

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Gobstoppers12 posted...

Ideological platitudes aside, you can only sentence somebody for crimes they actually committed. If all he did was walk into the building and yell about stuff, there's not much of a crime there.

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Look as all the supporters enter the topic to defend this

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Gobstoppers12 posted...

Ideological platitudes aside, you can only sentence somebody for crimes they actually committed. If all he did was walk into the building and yell about stuff, there's not much of a crime there.

Complete downplaying of the event. Try walking into any federal facility on any day and "yell about stuff" without authorization. See how that goes.

Now try it amongst thousands of others who brought guns, zip ties, nooses, pipe bombs who also smeared feces on the walls of the Capitol.

Not much of a crime?

Don't bite folks.

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wackyteen posted...

Disrupting a political process via threats of violence and terror should come with a harsher description than "walk into the building and yell about stuff"

I know that's how it has been packaged this whole time. I know you want to see a bunch of passionate idiots go to jail for a long time over the incident. But as I said, it's based on the actual acts committed and the evidence thereof. If the rioter didn't personally break anything, issue threats, cause harm, etc. then there isn't much meat on the prosecutor's plate.

Remember these trials are going to court rooms, with juries, lawyers, etc. It's going to be tough to hand a 25 year prison term to somebody who walked into the lobby of a government building and yelled "I don't like democrats"

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Shezarr posted...

Look as all the supporters enter the topic to defend this

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>Domestic terrorist gets 6 months

>Stomping on a pro police poster is a hate crime

Good ol' Murica

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Oh so we give terrorists plea deals now. Cool.

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wackyteen posted...

Won't ever take away what they did. They're treasonous traitors to their countries and deserve worse than they'll ever get.

They are terrorists and insurrectionists, no more, no less. Nothing they did amounts to treason by any legitimate definition of the word and especially not the Constitution's definition.

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Cheater87 posted...

Only 6 months....

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Hell I'd be famous as fuck if I started sauntering about with Nancy Pelosis' podum in my hand.

I'd like to me an announcement.

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TheVipaGTS posted...

Oh so we give terrorists plea deals now. Cool.

+1

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Why even bother trying them if they're going to get a very mild finger wag?

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brestugo posted...

Try walking into any federal facility on any day and "yell about stuff" without authorization. See how that goes.

I doubt it would warrant a severe prison sentence. A fine, maybe a couple months in jail, a mark on the record...Word it however you like, but 99% of the rioters didn't actually do anything other than walk into the lobby.

If they committed assault, throw the book at them. If they made threats, throw the book at them. But once again, you can only charge and convict somebody for the actual crimes they committed. If they made no threats and caused no harm, then what exactly do you think they should be charged with?

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Gobstoppers12 posted...

I doubt it would warrant a severe prison sentence. A fine, maybe a couple months in jail, a mark on the record...Word it however you like, but 99% of the rioters didn't actually do anything other than walk into the lobby.

If they committed assault, throw the book at them. If they made threats, throw the book at them. But once again, you can only charge and convict somebody for the actual crimes they committed. If they made no threats and caused no harm, then what exactly do you think they should be charged with?

This guy is a MAGA, so there isn't a reasonable or intelligent discussion to be had with em.

Just tag their profile and move on.

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MI4 REAL posted...

Hell I'd be famous as fuck if I started sauntering about with Nancy Pelosis' podum in my hand.

I'd like to me an announcement.

Pardon me, I meant PODIUM.

It's also called a dais.

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Will_VIIII posted...

This guy is a MAGA, so there isn't a reasonable or intelligent discussion to be had with em.

Explain this sentiment, please. What have I said that is unreasonable or unintelligent?

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Gobstoppers12 posted...

Explain this sentiment, please. What have I said that is unreasonable or unintelligent?

Nah

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Well if the government won't do its job the people will have to step in and do so.

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Will_VIIII posted...

Nah

So... what you're saying is... there is a reasonable discussion that can be had here, but you're refusing to participate. When you make assertions, you should be prepared to defend them.

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Paragon21XX posted...

They are terrorists and insurrectionists, no more, no less. Nothing they did amounts to treason by any legitimate definition of the word and especially not the Constitution's definition.

It does amount to sedition.

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You have a reputation, and you're an unabashed Trump supporter.

That's all that really needs to be said

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Paragon21XX posted...

They are terrorists and insurrectionists, no more, no less. Nothing they did amounts to treason by any legitimate definition of the word and especially not the Constitution's definition.

Engaging in terroristic actions against an active session of the entire congress of the United States by definition should qualify as committing treason against the United States.

Their mere presence disrupted the proceeding. Being part of that group makes you culpable for the action of the entirety of the group and you should be held accountable as if you yourself were carrying a weapon.

They shouldn't be able to get away on technicalities "oh I just walked through"

Mf you were in a building you weren't allowed to be in, during a time you'd never be allowed to visit, with intent to disrupt the ongoing proceedings, in order to force the congress to change the results of a free and fair election.

If some lone guy somehow broke in during a random day of congress and was without a weapon or anything then yeah, slap him on the wrist.

Every single person there was following the order of Trump to march down to the Capitol in order to 'convince' them to not certify the election. Everybody who went down to the Capitol knew exactly what Trump meant.

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I skimmed the article but did the man represent himself in court? Im actually very curious about how sentencing will go from here on considering my girlfriends father took part in the capital riots. I was personally hoping he would get the book thrown at him but now, Im not so sure.

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Will_VIIII posted...

You have a reputation, and you're an unabashed Trump supporter.

That's all that really needs to be said

I understand. You're just venting. If you don't want to have a discussion, that's fine, but I would appreciate it if you would refrain from insulting me in the process.

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Did you vote for Trump a second time or no?

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Will_VIIII posted...

Did you vote for Trump a second time or no?

No. I didn't even vote the first time. My state was going his way regardless, so I didn't feel the need to vote in either election.

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Lock em up

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Gobstoppers12 posted...

No. I didn't even vote the first time. My state was going his way regardless, so I didn't feel the need to vote in either election.

BS dude you posted pics where you've worn a MAGA hat.

Again my calling you out is for the benefit of everyone else


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Gobstoppers12 posted...

I doubt it would warrant a severe prison sentence. A fine, maybe a couple months in jail, a mark on the record...Word it however you like, but 99% of the rioters didn't actually do anything other than walk into the lobby.

If they committed assault, throw the book at them. If they made threats, throw the book at them. But once again, you can only charge and convict somebody for the actual crimes they committed. If they made no threats and caused no harm, then what exactly do you think they should be charged with?

Not all threats are verbal. They did not show up for a picnic that day.

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PoundGarden posted...

Very fine people

All trumps people are very fine