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Drumpf
07/15/21 10:55:58 AM
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FortuneCookie
07/15/21 10:57:57 AM
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I Demi a he, a she, or a they?
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g0ldie
07/15/21 11:03:37 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
I Demi a he, a she, or a they?
they're non-binary, iirc, so they/them

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MrMallard
07/15/21 11:07:08 AM
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Yeah, Demi's saying this is a process for everyone, themselves included, and that as long as people are working on it, it's cool.

It's like changing your name from John to Frank - even though you wanted to be called Frank, you've been called John for your entire life and it's going to be an adjustment to answer to Frank. Some people know you as John, and they themselves are going to have to get used to you being Frank now - but it's a learning curve for everyone involved, and as long as no-one is being a prick about it, it's okay to be open and gracious about it.

That doesn't mean that because he still uses John sometimes, John is John whether he wants to be called Frank or not. It just means that the process of getting used to being Frank isn't an overnight process, not even for the guy who changed his name from John to Frank.

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Slayer_22
07/15/21 11:08:36 AM
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Can someone tell this to the mods? I accidentally misgendered a YouTuber and got modded for it because there was an argument about it earlier in the topic that I missed.

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eston
07/15/21 11:09:33 AM
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Every time I've seen someone misgender unintentionally, they've corrected themselves immediately after and everyone seems cool with it

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Slayer_22
07/15/21 11:12:23 AM
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eston posted...
Every time I've seen someone misgender unintentionally, they've corrected themselves immediately after and everyone seems cool with it

Exactly how it should be anyway. Mistakes happen.
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MC_BatCommander
07/15/21 11:18:42 AM
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Slayer_22 posted...
Can someone tell this to the mods? I accidentally misgendered a YouTuber and got modded for it because there was an argument about it earlier in the topic that I missed.

:/

It's unfortunately not really something we can do. If we allowed that exception then every single person who does purposefully misgender in bad faith could use that as an excuse.

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TroutPaste
07/15/21 11:23:36 AM
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Slayer_22 posted...
Can someone tell this to the mods? I accidentally misgendered a YouTuber and got modded for it because there was an argument about it earlier in the topic that I missed.

:/

how severe was the moderation?

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ViewtifulGrave
07/15/21 11:54:55 AM
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When people say my truth it just sounds like they are lying.

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Esrac
07/15/21 12:01:02 PM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
When people say my truth it just sounds like they are lying.

That is a thing that annoys me too. There is no individual truth. There is only the truth and various degrees of misinterpretation.

Saying you have your own truth just sounds like a bullshit hippy version of "alternative facts".
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ElatedVenusaur
07/15/21 12:02:10 PM
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I misgender myself too lol.

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Slayer_22
07/15/21 12:02:28 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...


It's unfortunately not really something we can do. If we allowed that exception then every single person who does purposefully misgender in bad faith could use that as an excuse.

I get it, but it was the context that bothered me. Like, I have referred to said YouTuber as their proper pronouns in other topics but then I slip up without even reading what the topic was about...ugh.

TroutPaste posted...


how severe was the moderation?

Not severe, but frustrating. I don't get modded often anyway, so I'm not particularly used to it. I keep with the ToS for the most part.
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dj1200
07/15/21 12:02:50 PM
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Lol

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The Trent
07/15/21 12:02:52 PM
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how could this happen to they

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Compsognathus
07/15/21 12:07:08 PM
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Slayer_22 posted...
Can someone tell this to the mods? I accidentally misgendered a YouTuber and got modded for it because there was an argument about it earlier in the topic that I missed.

:/
Generally speaking if someone's pronouns are established earlier in a topic and a user misgenders that person later in the topic it is assumed the user read the topic and misgendered the person anyway. That does mean that occasionally there will be people hit for slip-ups or because they didn't read the whole topic but the alternative is that people would be dilberately misgendering people and then claiming they didn't know or read the earlier topic.

And if it is just a slip-up then it isn't happening often and your probably aren't taking more than an NKL for it.

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CyricZ
07/15/21 12:07:18 PM
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Can anyone ever truly know "the truth"?

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The Trent
07/15/21 12:08:39 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Can anyone ever truly know "the truth"?

paul pierce like "bruh"

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I4NRulez
07/15/21 12:10:11 PM
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How do you misgender yourself? I've never referred to myself as a pronoun lol

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One_Day_Remains
07/15/21 12:11:18 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
How do you misgender yourself? I've never referred to myself as a pronoun lol


"Me" and "I" are pronouns, albeit not gendered
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The Trent
07/15/21 12:12:35 PM
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can't spell men without me
but wait...wo...me...n
...my God

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Mist_Turnips
07/15/21 12:12:42 PM
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If the worst problem in your life is using a wrong pronoun, sounds like things are pretty easy.

Adverbs though, oh god.
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I4NRulez
07/15/21 12:13:45 PM
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One_Day_Remains posted...
"Me" and "I" are pronouns, albeit not gendered

Right, sorry I mean specifically gendered pronouns. Like you don't really refer to yourself as he/she or anything unless. The only time i actually do is if im filling out a form which is rare.

It's weird to misgender yourself lol

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TeaMilk
07/15/21 12:36:16 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
How do you misgender yourself? I've never referred to myself as a pronoun lol
Maybe they refer to themselves as a woman or other gendered term out of habit?

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One_Day_Remains
07/15/21 3:16:56 PM
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I4NRulez posted...


Right, sorry I mean specifically gendered pronouns. Like you don't really refer to yourself as he/she or anything unless. The only time i actually do is if im filling out a form which is rare.

It's weird to misgender yourself lol


I'm just being a smartass, I knew what you meant
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LinkFanatic
07/15/21 3:18:08 PM
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Always nice to see reasonable trans people that doesn't fly off the handle by default if you unintentionally mislabel them. My friend got outed from a Facebook group for accidentally misremembering somebody else's gender.

Protip: Projection makes you a bitch in this case, Karen. Just like it makes you a dick to do so yourself, Brad.

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Veggeta_MAX
07/15/21 3:18:17 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
It's unfortunately not really something we can do. If we allowed that exception then every single person who does purposefully misgender in bad faith could use that as an excuse.
You guys can read between the lines, come on.

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dj1200
07/15/21 4:13:28 PM
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The Trent posted...
how could this happen to they
XD

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MrMallard
07/16/21 12:23:32 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
You guys can read between the lines, come on.
Then when people do it to troll, they'll say "you read between the lines for them but you didn't do the same for me, this is mod bias, you're clearly too incompetent at your job to do this if you didn't think this was accidental" etc. Give people an inch and they'll take a mile, and it'll always be everyone else's fault but theirs.

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shnangyboos
07/16/21 12:32:35 AM
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No inches for bigots. It's best we assume the worst intentions and act accordingly.

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Slayer_22
07/16/21 12:53:37 AM
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shnangyboos posted...
No inches for bigots. It's best we assume the worst intentions and act accordingly.

Clearly. Because, you know, thinking the worst of people is always the best way to go about things.
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Drumpf
07/16/21 8:20:05 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
I Demi a he, a she, or a they?

says they in the topic tittle

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Solid Snake07
07/16/21 8:22:43 AM
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https://youtu.be/V9O94UTDAJQ

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pikachupwnage
07/16/21 8:26:12 AM
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Esrac posted...
That is a thing that annoys me too. There is no individual truth. There is only the truth and various degrees of misinterpretation.

Saying you have your own truth just sounds like a bullshit hippy version of "alternative facts".

This pretty much sums up how I feel

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