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Humble_Novice 07/15/21 10:15:29 AM #1: |
https://news.yahoo.com/24-year-old-who-needed-double-lung-transplant-wishes-hed-been-vaccinated-for-covid-19-180810400.html
![]() A 24-year-old Georgia man who contracted COVID-19 and required a double lung transplant, and who remains hospitalized, has expressed his regret he did not get vaccinated for the virus, which has so far killed more than 607,000 Americans.If you refuse to take the COVID vaccine, then get ready to have this happen to you while being forced to pay huge medical bills. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nemu 07/15/21 10:19:34 AM #2: |
I mean it's good to get the vaccine, but this was a random freak case you realistically had little chance of happening to you if you're healthy. Now with delta and other mutations coming up, the chances of such might be increasing.
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g0ldie 07/15/21 10:22:47 AM #3: |
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Vampire_Wreath 07/15/21 10:23:22 AM #4: |
Humble_Novice posted...
A GoFundMe page set up by Bargatzes friends is raising money to help cover his medical bills. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Humble_Novice 07/15/21 10:25:16 AM #5: |
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Funkydog 07/15/21 10:28:34 AM #7: |
At least he came around I guess. Had to deal with far too many who refused to change their mind, even as they died.
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eston 07/15/21 10:30:39 AM #8: |
I don't think it's completely unreasonable to be skeptical of the vaccine, but this is the gamble you're taking and in this guy's case his expectation of somehow waiting years and not getting COVID during that time was a bit unrealistic, especially since it doesn't sound like he was being careful
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 07/15/21 10:31:52 AM #9: |
I'm glad that he at least can see the error in his way. Hopefully he can convince other fence sitters to finally get the vaccine.
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SuperShake666 07/15/21 10:32:28 AM #10: |
Humble_Novice posted...
A GoFundMe page set up by Bargatzes friends is raising money to help cover his medical bills. I'm gonna pass on that one, fam. --- "Look, if I was good at math, I wouldn't be on CE at 2:00 the morning clicking on topics about porn stars ****ing horses." - May 2017, Dash_Harber ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jabodie 07/15/21 10:33:46 AM #11: |
Unlucky, unforeseeable, unpreventable
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brestugo 07/15/21 10:34:54 AM #12: |
eston posted...
I don't think it's completely unreasonable to be skeptical of the vaccine, Stopped reading right there. --- Not everyone is suitable to kill a lion - Maasai proverb. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kingdrake2 07/15/21 10:35:22 AM #13: |
Funkydog posted...
At least he came around I guess it's a positive change if he lives and wants to do better (not believe covid is a hoax, thinks he doesn't need the vaccine). some unfortunately got covid and they didn't change one bit (even family members died) they chalked it up to something else. --- Explorers In The Further Regions Of Experience, demons to some, Angels To Others: Pinhead ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Will_VIIII 07/15/21 10:36:23 AM #14: |
Humble_Novice posted...
https://twitter.com/IndFLGovTrack/status/1415406420011458564That's absolutely unfair to those who have been waiting --- https://imgur.com/ZWNgMXL Banned from the safe space/cancel culture board "Life as a Gamer" (aka MAGA 2.0 board) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AsucaHayashi 07/15/21 10:45:29 AM #15: |
"don't drink and drive" said the drunk driver who crashed his car
"don't do drugs" said the junkie who destroyed his life as if these examples of "do as i say, not as i do" people after the fact ever really helped anyone. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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krazychao5 07/15/21 10:48:13 AM #16: |
AsucaHayashi posted...
"don't drink and drive" said the drunk driver who crashed his carum....they realized afterwards the error of their ways. "sometimes a hypocrite is a man in the process of changing" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 07/15/21 10:51:32 AM #17: |
brestugo posted...
Stopped reading right there.I think it's good that you recognize your own inability to think critically --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmbraceOfDeath 07/15/21 10:53:20 AM #18: |
eston posted...
I don't think it's completely unreasonable to be skeptical of the vaccine, but this is the gamble you're taking and in this guy's case his expectation of somehow waiting years and not getting COVID during that time was a bit unrealistic, especially since it doesn't sound like he was being carefulIt is unreasonable to be skeptical of it at this point when almost a billion people are fully vaccinated and are just fine. --- PSN/GT: BigDaffej ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 07/15/21 10:53:28 AM #19: |
He wanted to wait a few years to see, you know, if theres any side effects or anything from it,
I don't know why these people don't seem to have the same skepticism of the long term side effects of covid-19 itself --- Razer Blade 15 - Core i7-9750H, 32 GB RAM (2666), RTX 2080 MQ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AsucaHayashi 07/15/21 10:57:00 AM #20: |
krazychao5 posted...
um....they realized afterwards the error of their ways. that's fine and all but the problem is that they're trying to change the minds of the idiots that they themselves used to be(hence after the fact). if the countless examples prior to his own(like you know, the hundreds of thousands dead etc.) didn't help himself change his ways, what exactly would prompt other idiots again like himself to change until after the fact? it's like a weird self-fulfilling prophecy type deal. as such his message reads like nothing but attention seeking and as also mentioned, lungs that could have gone to other people. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 07/15/21 11:01:18 AM #21: |
AsucaHayashi posted...
that's fine and all but the problem is that they're trying to change the minds of the idiots that they themselves used to be(hence after the fact). if the countless examples prior to his own(like you know, the hundreds of thousands dead etc.) didn't help himself change his ways, what exactly would prompt other idiots again like himself to change until after the fact?If he associated with other people who had his same mindset, then they now personally know someone impacted in a very negative way from waiting to get the vaccine. I think a lot of these people haven't seen the impact first hand with someone they know. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vampire_Wreath 07/15/21 11:01:23 AM #22: |
EmbraceOfDeath posted...
It is unreasonable to be skeptical of it at this point when almost a billion people are fully vaccinated and are just fine. Vioxx? Ranitidine? etc. A lot of products are pulled from market later --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 07/15/21 11:05:04 AM #23: |
Vampire_Wreath posted...
Vioxx? Ranitidine? etc.Both of those were removed because extended use of them over time could cause negative side effects. That's not how vaccines work. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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brestugo 07/15/21 11:05:24 AM #24: |
eston posted...
I think it's good that you recognize your own inability to think criticallyCritical thinking is fine. Analysis paralysis is not. More than enough evidence to dismiss the skeptics. Dismissed. --- Not everyone is suitable to kill a lion - Maasai proverb. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 07/15/21 11:06:31 AM #25: |
brestugo posted...
Critical thinking is fine. Analysis paralysis is not. More than enough evidence to dismiss the skeptics.I dont think that has anything to do with what I posted but ok --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 07/15/21 11:09:41 AM #26: |
Nemu posted...
this was a random freak case you realistically had little chance of happening to you if you're healthy. This is what everyone thinks... until they find out they're not the exception of the rule. "It won't happen to me" is the beginning of the end for many people. Be safe or be sorry, this person is now in the latter. That said I'd understand some slight hesitancy. I was like that myself, but the time between the elderly taking the vaccine and me being allowed to take it in the first place was enough "wait and see" for me. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vampire_Wreath 07/15/21 11:12:24 AM #27: |
Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
Both of those were removed because extended use of them over time could cause negative side effects. How do you think they found out other than having post-marketing surveillance over an extended period of time? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AsucaHayashi 07/15/21 11:26:50 AM #28: |
Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
I think a lot of these people haven't seen the impact first hand with someone they know. if people really need to see things "first hand" to believe something then they're probably already beyond help.. Umbreon posted... This is what everyone thinks... until they find out they're not the exception of the rule. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 07/15/21 11:37:38 AM #29: |
AsucaHayashi posted...
if people really need to see things "first hand" to believe something then they're probably already beyond help..I'm not sure what point you think you are making --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 07/15/21 11:40:00 AM #30: |
Vampire_Wreath posted...
How do you think they found out other than having post-marketing surveillance over an extended period of time?My point is those were not side effects from taking something just once. Please provide an example of something removed because it caused cancer or some other issue years later after one use/dose if you want to draw the comparison to the vaccine --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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limp-bizkit-89 07/15/21 11:43:34 AM #31: |
Nemu posted...
I mean it's good to get the vaccine, but this was a random freak case you realistically had little chance of happening to you if you're healthy. this sort of terrible take, SMH. isolated case #373748484855 --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AsucaHayashi 07/15/21 11:55:04 AM #32: |
Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
I'm not sure what point you think you are making "hundreds of thousands of people have died or suffering severe consequences of covid... better make sure i first know of somebody who personally have experienced the same before i do something about it" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tremain07 07/15/21 11:59:21 AM #33: |
Getting corvid was enough or me to immediately get the vacs, I've felt like shit at times but that was an awful experience and so much bullshit happened as a result of it for me, not eager to go another round with it, corvid can keep the damn belt.
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Vampire_Wreath 07/15/21 12:06:50 PM #34: |
Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
My point is those were not side effects from taking something just once. Please provide an example of something removed because it caused cancer or some other issue years later after one use/dose if you want to draw the comparison to the vaccine Rotashield Trasyol Rapacuronium etc. Not to mention your argument and goalpost moving is dumb af since plenty of withdrawn drugs are not dose/time duration dependent for its risk. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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krazychao5 07/15/21 12:41:30 PM #35: |
https://tinyurl.com/5fpprujt
also this was linked to j&j vaccine. learned about it on my gf's weekly conference call --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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limp-bizkit-89 07/15/21 12:43:54 PM #36: |
krazychao5 posted...
https://tinyurl.com/5fpprujt well: Of the more than 12 million vaccine doses administered in the U.S., there have been around 100 reports of people developing Guillain-Barr syndrome. stop chicken littleing this garbage for political purposes --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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krazychao5 07/15/21 12:47:11 PM #37: |
so you don't deny that there are bad outcomes from the vaccines?
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EmbraceOfDeath 07/15/21 12:48:27 PM #38: |
Vampire_Wreath posted...
RotashieldRotashield side effects were seen within two weeks of a vaccine dose, so that just adds evidence that any major side effects would already have been seen long ago for the COVID vaccines. Trasylol is not a vaccine and not relevant here. Rapacuronium is not a vaccine and not relevant here. Stop pushing your antivax bullshit and pretending you have any clue what you're talking about. --- PSN/GT: BigDaffej ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 07/15/21 12:49:33 PM #39: |
All medicine have potential side effects.
Some people can't take Tylenol, doesn't change the fact that 99% of us use it with no problem. The potential side effects from vaccines are insignificant compared to the much more likely and much more fatal effects of Covid-19. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 07/15/21 12:49:33 PM #40: |
krazychao5 posted...
https://tinyurl.com/5fpprujt Calling it "linked" is misleading at best, pretty much just misinformation. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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limp-bizkit-89 07/15/21 12:50:58 PM #41: |
krazychao5 posted...
so you don't deny that there are bad outcomes from the vaccines? there are bad outcomes from drinking beer, eating meat or using cell phones. Somehow no one chicken littles that. the same losers chicken littling vaccines bought hydroxycloroquine in mass because trump told them so, so theyre full of shit --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/15/21 12:51:24 PM #42: |
Vampire_Wreath posted...
Vioxx? Ranitidine? etc.Oh you're right. We should be skeptical of all modern medicine forever because if could be pulled off the market in 25 years. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/15/21 12:51:56 PM #43: |
limp-bizkit-89 posted...
there are bad outcomes from drinking beer, eating meat or using cell phones. Somehow no one chicken littles that.Exactly. They can shut the fuck up --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/15/21 12:53:05 PM #44: |
krazychao5 posted...
so you don't deny that there are bad outcomes from the vaccines?There are bad outcomes for being born. We call life skeptics "suicidal" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vampire_Wreath 07/15/21 12:56:58 PM #45: |
EmbraceOfDeath posted...
Rotashield side effects were seen within two weeks of a vaccine dose, so that just adds evidence that any major side effects would already have been seen long ago for the COVID vaccines. keep moving the goalposts, you wanted drugs, then you wanted to limit to one dose, now you want to limit to vaccines, you're such a bad-faith poster It's bullshit to say that there are no possible concerns later on, and your original posts are insinuating that no post-marketing surveillance is needed if adverse events aren't seen in the first month or year --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 07/15/21 12:59:06 PM #46: |
Why are people so worried about potential side effects of the vaccine, when Covid has known long term side effects and the very short term of death?
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TheOtherMike 07/15/21 1:02:24 PM #47: |
Humble_Novice posted...
https://twitter.com/IndFLGovTrack/status/1415406420011458564 This was my first thought. Because this guy was fucking stupid someone else didn't get a transplant. Fuck this douche. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 07/15/21 1:06:38 PM #48: |
Vampire_Wreath posted...
keep moving the goalposts, you wanted drugs, then you wanted to limit to one dose, now you want to limit to vaccines, you're such a bad-faith posterShove your anti-vaxx bullshit concerns. People need to shut the fuck up and get jabbed. Anti-science dumbasses picking and choosing when to worry about science and non-zero possibilites are only doing so for political reasons. They aren't consistent. Stop giving people the benefit of the doubt. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 07/15/21 2:45:37 PM #50: |
krazychao5 posted...
so you don't deny that there are bad outcomes from the vaccines?this is why most people don't bother arguing with conservatives, their entire existence revolves around trying to force a gotcha statement --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sir Will 07/15/21 2:48:45 PM #51: |
AsucaHayashi posted...
"don't drink and drive" said the drunk driver who crashed his car...yes, yes they do. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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