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BakonBitz 07/14/21 1:52:57 PM #151:	BLAKUboy posted... This really makes me wonder what the original plan for Phase 4 was, since MoM was initially going to be before Loki. So what was Doctor Strange dealing with if Loki hadn't opened the multiverse yet? Or were we supposed to go into Loki knowing the entire point was opening the multiverse? Maybe MoM was just going to be "suddenly a multiverse opened up and we have no idea why" and regardless, Loki would've explained the how. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:956076010] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>BLAKUboy posted... </cite> <quote>This really makes me wonder what the original plan for Phase 4 was, since MoM was initially going to be before Loki. So what was Doctor Strange dealing with if Loki hadn't opened the multiverse yet? Or were we supposed to go into Loki knowing the entire point was opening the multiverse?</quote>Maybe MoM was just going to be "suddenly a multiverse opened up and we have no idea why" and regardless, Loki would've explained the how. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/14/21 1:56:08 PM #152:	Did Dr. Strange already have the time stone when he was mad at Thor for bringing Loki to earth? I can't remember. I need to go back and watch that movie. Edit: I went back and watched the scene and he did, LOL. I wonder if he saw Loki fucking up the timeline before all this happened in the show. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:956076089] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>Did Dr. Strange already have the time stone when he was mad at Thor for bringing Loki to earth? I can't remember. I need to go back and watch that movie. Edit: I went back and watched the scene and he did, LOL. I wonder if he saw Loki fucking up the timeline before all this happened in the show. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KogaSteelfang 07/14/21 2:00:22 PM #153:	I'm not really a fan of the multiverse just now becoming a thing. We had already seen and heard about the multiverse in Doctor Strange. Also Ant-Man and the Wasp had Ghost, who was partially explained as linking with her alternate reality selves and being pulled apart because of it. Sure, the time travel stuff means the branches can occur retroactively, but those movies are apparently part of the sacred timeline where some form of alternate realities already existed. --- Work in progress, please be patient. <cite>KogaSteelfang posted [p:956076210] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>I'm not really a fan of the multiverse just now becoming a thing. We had already seen and heard about the multiverse in Doctor Strange. Also Ant-Man and the Wasp had Ghost, who was partially explained as linking with her alternate reality selves and being pulled apart because of it. Sure, the time travel stuff means the branches can occur retroactively, but those movies are apparently part of the sacred timeline where some form of alternate realities already existed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 07/14/21 2:02:25 PM #154:	CableZL posted... Did Dr. Strange already have the time stone when he was mad at Thor for bringing Loki to earth? I can't remember. I need to go back and watch that movie. Edit: I went back and watched the scene and he did, LOL. I wonder if he saw Loki fucking up the timeline before all this happened in the show. avengers/Loki Loki is different from main timeline Loki that was in ragnarok. also its made clear that the infinity stones exist in their particular dimensions so it seems that doctor stranges time stone could only work within its dimension. --- https://imgur.com/Rqk1DYV - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:956076252] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite> <quote>Did Dr. Strange already have the time stone when he was mad at Thor for bringing Loki to earth? I can't remember. I need to go back and watch that movie. Edit: I went back and watched the scene and he did, LOL. I wonder if he saw Loki fucking up the timeline before all this happened in the show.</quote> avengers/Loki Loki is different from main timeline Loki that was in ragnarok. also its made clear that the infinity stones exist in their particular dimensions so it seems that doctor stranges time stone could only work within its dimension. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/14/21 2:06:28 PM #155:	chrono625 posted... avengers/Loki Loki is different from main timeline Loki that was in ragnarok. also its made clear that the infinity stones exist in their particular dimensions so it seems that doctor stranges time stone could only work within its dimension. I thought Loki's Nexus event was taking the cosmic cube when he wasn't supposed to, though. Wouldn't that have happened in the same dimension as Doctor Strange? --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:956076381] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>chrono625 posted... </cite> <quote>avengers/Loki Loki is different from main timeline Loki that was in ragnarok. also its made clear that the infinity stones exist in their particular dimensions so it seems that doctor stranges time stone could only work within its dimension.</quote> I thought Loki's Nexus event was taking the cosmic cube when he wasn't supposed to, though. Wouldn't that have happened in the same dimension as Doctor Strange? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 07/14/21 2:08:23 PM #156:	They werent kidding when they said Loki would be the show most crucial to the MCU going forward. This sets up everything for years to come. So happy they actually went with Kang and didnt cop out in the end. Thanos wouldnt have had the weight that he did if he wasnt teased so many times before Infinity War. --- Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch <cite>SwayM posted [p:956076431] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>They werent kidding when they said Loki would be the show most crucial to the MCU going forward. This sets up everything for years to come. So happy they actually went with Kang and didnt cop out in the end. Thanos wouldnt have had the weight that he did if he wasnt teased so many times before Infinity War. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolife67 07/14/21 2:09:38 PM #157:	chrono625 posted... also its made clear that the infinity stones exist in their particular dimensions so it seems that doctor stranges time stone could only work within its dimension. We saw them use stones from different dimensions/timelines in Endgame. <cite>lolife67 posted [p:956076472] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>chrono625 posted... </cite> <quote>also its made clear that the infinity stones exist in their particular dimensions so it seems that doctor stranges time stone could only work within its dimension.</quote>We saw them use stones from different dimensions/timelines in Endgame. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Clark 07/14/21 2:14:10 PM #158:	"Let me sit you down and have a nice chat that sets up the next several years of movies" isn't the direction I saw the finale going in, but I thoroughly enjoyed that. Kang/Immortus was great, and they've done a really good job setting him up as the next big threat. Although I have to admit that for a moment I genuinely did think they'd misdirected us with all the Kang build-up and that Miss Minutes was actually gonna be the big bad. Weirdly, it turns out that I would have been okay with that, haha. --- https://imgur.com/6eF0W <cite>Tom Clark posted [p:956076615] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>"Let me sit you down and have a nice chat that sets up the next several years of movies" isn't the direction I saw the finale going in, but I thoroughly enjoyed that. Kang/Immortus was great, and they've done a really good job setting him up as the next big threat. Although I have to admit that for a moment I genuinely did think they'd misdirected us with all the Kang build-up and that Miss Minutes was actually gonna be the big bad. Weirdly, it turns out that I would have been okay with that, haha. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 07/14/21 2:15:33 PM #159:	lolife67 posted... We saw them use stones from different dimensions/timelines in Endgame. oh yes of course. Im trying to figure out why the infinity stones were powerless in the TVA then. --- https://imgur.com/Rqk1DYV - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:956076654] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>lolife67 posted... </cite> <quote>We saw them use stones from different dimensions/timelines in Endgame.</quote> oh yes of course. Im trying to figure out why the infinity stones were powerless in the TVA then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 07/14/21 2:17:38 PM #160:	chrono625 posted... oh yes of course. Im trying to figure out why the infinity stones were powerless in the TVA then. I think it really is just an instance of magic not working in the TVA. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:956076707] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>chrono625 posted... </cite> <quote>oh yes of course. Im trying to figure out why the infinity stones were powerless in the TVA then.</quote>I think it really is just an instance of magic not working in the TVA. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SwayM 07/14/21 2:26:15 PM #161:	chrono625 posted... oh yes of course. Im trying to figure out why the infinity stones were powerless in the TVA then. I think the TVA exists beyond time/space/reality and thats why no magic or infinity stone will work there. --- Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch <cite>SwayM posted [p:956076972] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>chrono625 posted... </cite> <quote>oh yes of course. Im trying to figure out why the infinity stones were powerless in the TVA then.</quote> I think the TVA exists beyond time/space/reality and thats why no magic or infinity stone will work there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scarecrow17 07/14/21 2:32:24 PM #162:	TurtleInFreedom posted... ~~So... there would be one TVA per universe, to keep the order of the timeline, but only one Kang overseeing the~~ ~~sacred timeline~~ universe and the entirety of all the other universe's TVAs? Or are there other Kangs looking over other TVAs in their respective universes, but the Kang that was just killed was the supreme Kang that looked over them all? Okay now I'm legit confused. The mechanics and setting of this new MCU phase is confusing af. Im not entirely sure what everyone else is saying but this Kang, known as Immortus, weaponized Alioth and killed all of the other Kang variants. Then, he created the TVA to ensure that his birth timeline was the only one to exist. Thus, preventing all of the other Kang variants from coming into existence. Once Immortus was killed and no one continued the work of the TVA, this caused the timeline to branch again. Other Kang variants came into existence and the one who rules over the TVA now is Kang the Conqueror. This is why Immortus was called The One Who Remains. He was the only Kang left up until his death. --- His foundation lie in the holy mountain. Selah. <cite>Scarecrow17 posted [p:956077169] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>TurtleInFreedom posted... </cite> <quote>So... there would be one TVA per universe, to keep the order of the timeline, but only one Kang overseeing the sacred timeline universe and the entirety of all the other universe's TVAs? Or are there other Kangs looking over other TVAs in their respective universes, but the Kang that was just killed was the supreme Kang that looked over them all? Okay now I'm legit confused. The mechanics and setting of this new MCU phase is confusing af.</quote> Im not entirely sure what everyone else is saying but this Kang, known as Immortus, weaponized Alioth and killed all of the other Kang variants. Then, he created the TVA to ensure that his birth timeline was the only one to exist. Thus, preventing all of the other Kang variants from coming into existence. Once Immortus was killed and no one continued the work of the TVA, this caused the timeline to branch again. Other Kang variants came into existence and the one who rules over the TVA now is Kang the Conqueror. This is why Immortus was called The One Who Remains. He was the only Kang left up until his death. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KogaSteelfang 07/14/21 2:33:12 PM #163:	SwayM posted... I think the TVA exists beyond time/space/reality and thats why no magic or infinity stone will work there. That's what we were led to believe, but then it was altered by the final events of the show. That shouldn't be the case if it truly was separate. --- Work in progress, please be patient. <cite>KogaSteelfang posted [p:956077197] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>SwayM posted... </cite> <quote>I think the TVA exists beyond time/space/reality and thats why no magic or infinity stone will work there.</quote>That's what we were led to believe, but then it was altered by the final events of the show. That shouldn't be the case if it truly was separate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/14/21 2:33:24 PM #164:	I wonder what would happen if Loki brought those infinity stones in that drawer to the Citadel. They were able to use magic in there. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:956077205] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>I wonder what would happen if Loki brought those infinity stones in that drawer to the Citadel. They were able to use magic in there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolife67 07/14/21 2:49:05 PM #165:	KogaSteelfang posted... That's what we were led to believe, but then it was altered by the final events of the show. That shouldn't be the case if it truly was separate. It was only spared due to HWR being the only Kang and protecting it. With him gone, there was nothing to stop other variants of him from creating their own TVA versions. <cite>lolife67 posted [p:956077682] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>KogaSteelfang posted... </cite> <quote>That's what we were led to believe, but then it was altered by the final events of the show. That shouldn't be the case if it truly was separate.</quote>It was only spared due to HWR being the only Kang and protecting it. With him gone, there was nothing to stop other variants of him from creating their own TVA versions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 07/14/21 2:50:32 PM #166:	KogaSteelfang posted... That's what we were led to believe, but then it was altered by the final events of the show. That shouldn't be the case if it truly was separate. The thing is, Loki was thrust into the TVA before Sylvie killed Kang. So it shouldn't have been altered while he was in it. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:956077721] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>KogaSteelfang posted... </cite> <quote>That's what we were led to believe, but then it was altered by the final events of the show. That shouldn't be the case if it truly was separate.</quote>The thing is, Loki was thrust into the TVA before Sylvie killed Kang. So it shouldn't have been altered while he was in it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 07/14/21 2:52:27 PM #167:	BLAKUboy posted... The thing is, Loki was thrust into the TVA before Sylvie killed Kang. So it shouldn't have been altered while he was in it. Maybe it did alter somehow? Loki got sent to the prime timeline TVA, Sylvie then kills Immortus, then things immediately change. Which will mean the prime timeline may now be ruled by Kang the Conqueror. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:956077784] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>BLAKUboy posted... </cite> <quote>The thing is, Loki was thrust into the TVA before Sylvie killed Kang. So it shouldn't have been altered while he was in it.</quote>Maybe it did alter somehow? Loki got sent to the prime timeline TVA, Sylvie then kills Immortus, then things immediately change. Which will mean the prime timeline may now be ruled by Kang the Conqueror. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
archedsoul 07/14/21 3:18:24 PM #168:	BLAKUboy posted... This really makes me wonder what the original plan for Phase 4 was, since MoM was initially going to be before Loki. So what was Doctor Strange dealing with if Loki hadn't opened the multiverse yet? Or were we supposed to go into Loki knowing the entire point was opening the multiverse? I don't think it was going to be before even though that's how they showed it on the roadmap. WandaVision and Loki were both Spring 2021, with MoM in May and "What If" in June. Also, the original guy doing MoM left with Sam Raimi taking over. So that's a major change. KogaSteelfang posted... I'm not really a fan of the multiverse just now becoming a thing. We had already seen and heard about the multiverse in Doctor Strange. Also Ant-Man and the Wasp had Ghost, who was partially explained as linking with her alternate reality selves and being pulled apart because of it. Sure, the time travel stuff means the branches can occur retroactively, but those movies are apparently part of the sacred timeline where some form of alternate realities already existed. The thing with stuff like this is that whatever was erased, now always existed since the beginning. This entire Loki stuff could have taken place millions of years after we saw Endgame. If the X-Men/Deadpool movies are a separate universe, they existed during the last Multiverse War and essentially just disappeared from existence for however long ago Immortus did this. Now that universe and its entire history would be restored. Also, I'm pretty sure that is not what was happening to Ghost. --- "Fear cuts deeper than swords." <cite>archedsoul posted [p:956078570] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote> BLAKUboy posted... </cite> <quote>This really makes me wonder what the original plan for Phase 4 was, since MoM was initially going to be before Loki. So what was Doctor Strange dealing with if Loki hadn't opened the multiverse yet? Or were we supposed to go into Loki knowing the entire point was opening the multiverse?</quote>I don't think it was going to be before even though that's how they showed it on the roadmap. WandaVision and Loki were both Spring 2021, with MoM in May and "What If" in June. Also, the original guy doing MoM left with Sam Raimi taking over. So that's a major change. KogaSteelfang posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not really a fan of the multiverse just now becoming a thing. We had already seen and heard about the multiverse in Doctor Strange. Also Ant-Man and the Wasp had Ghost, who was partially explained as linking with her alternate reality selves and being pulled apart because of it. Sure, the time travel stuff means the branches can occur retroactively, but those movies are apparently part of the sacred timeline where some form of alternate realities already existed.</quote>The thing with stuff like this is that whatever was erased, now always existed since the beginning. This entire Loki stuff could have taken place millions of years after we saw Endgame. If the X-Men/Deadpool movies are a separate universe, they existed during the last Multiverse War and essentially just disappeared from existence for however long ago Immortus did this. Now that universe and its entire history would be restored. Also, I'm pretty sure that is not what was happening to Ghost. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KogaSteelfang 07/14/21 3:36:53 PM #169:	archedsoul posted... Also, I'm pretty sure that is not what was happening to Ghost. I'm just basing it on the lecture they snuck into, where the guy helping ghost was explains about quantum entanglement between separate realities. Talking about a subject being entangled with multiple realities at once. Seemed like he had become an expert on that while learning how to help her. Also, iirc that was what they were testing when she got her powers. Alongside her phased out versions often taking different actions from her. Just seemed like that's what they were going for. --- Work in progress, please be patient. <cite>KogaSteelfang posted [p:956079103] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>archedsoul posted... </cite> <quote>Also, I'm pretty sure that is not what was happening to Ghost.</quote>I'm just basing it on the lecture they snuck into, where the guy helping ghost was explains about quantum entanglement between separate realities. Talking about a subject being entangled with multiple realities at once. Seemed like he had become an expert on that while learning how to help her. Also, iirc that was what they were testing when she got her powers. Alongside her phased out versions often taking different actions from her. Just seemed like that's what they were going for. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 07/14/21 3:57:05 PM #170:	A tad disappointing. Oh there was entertainment to be had and the exposition dump was well done. But there's no closure on pretty much anything. And in fact, with seemingly resetting Mobius and B-15 at the end it negates all their brief scenes at the TVA, plus, you know, development. That better be fixed quick the next season and not have to develop them all over again.. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:956079686] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>A tad disappointing. Oh there was entertainment to be had and the exposition dump was well done. But there's no closure on pretty much anything. And in fact, with seemingly resetting Mobius and B-15 at the end it negates all their brief scenes at the TVA, plus, you know, development. That better be fixed quick the next season and not have to develop them all over again.. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 07/14/21 3:59:22 PM #171:	BLAKUboy posted... The thing is, Loki was thrust into the TVA before Sylvie killed Kang. So it shouldn't have been altered while he was in it. It did. Mobius looked roughed up when staring at the screen with B-15, his hair and suit a mess. When they encounter Loki, Mobius' suit is all clean and neat. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:956079778] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>BLAKUboy posted... </cite> <quote>The thing is, Loki was thrust into the TVA before Sylvie killed Kang. So it shouldn't have been altered while he was in it.</quote>It did. Mobius looked roughed up when staring at the screen with B-15, his hair and suit a mess. When they encounter Loki, Mobius' suit is all clean and neat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolife67 07/14/21 4:01:27 PM #172:	We got closure on the main plot, which was who is actually running the TVA and why. <cite>lolife67 posted [p:956079843] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>We got closure on the main plot, which was who is actually running the TVA and why. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/14/21 4:01:56 PM #173:	Sir Will posted... A tad disappointing. Oh there was entertainment to be had and the exposition dump was well done. But there's no closure on pretty much anything. And in fact, with seemingly resetting Mobius and B-15 at the end it negates all their brief scenes at the TVA, plus, you know, development. That better be fixed quick the next season and not have to develop them all over again.. Mobius and B-15 weren't reset. Those were just different variants in a new timeline. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:956079856] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>Sir Will posted... </cite> <quote>A tad disappointing. Oh there was entertainment to be had and the exposition dump was well done. But there's no closure on pretty much anything. And in fact, with seemingly resetting Mobius and B-15 at the end it negates all their brief scenes at the TVA, plus, you know, development. That better be fixed quick the next season and not have to develop them all over again..</quote> Mobius and B-15 weren't reset. Those were just different variants in a new timeline. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 07/14/21 4:06:21 PM #174:	lolife67 posted... We got closure on the main plot, which was who is actually running the TVA and why. Yeah I suppose so. CableZL posted... Mobius and B-15 weren't reset. Those were just variants in a different timeline. I figured the TVA would exist outside time and there'd be only 1. I guess each timeline has their own now then? Hope he gets back where he belongs quickly then. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:956079988] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>lolife67 posted... </cite> <quote>We got closure on the main plot, which was who is actually running the TVA and why.</quote>Yeah I suppose so. CableZL posted... </cite> <quote>Mobius and B-15 weren't reset. Those were just variants in a different timeline.</quote>I figured the TVA would exist outside time and there'd be only 1. I guess each timeline has their own now then? Hope he gets back where he belongs quickly then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/14/21 4:15:36 PM #175:	Sir Will posted... I figured the TVA would exist outside time and there'd be only 1. I guess each timeline has their own now then? Hope he gets back where he belongs quickly then. Yeah, I'm kinda unclear on that, too. But... With Immortus' explanation, if he created the TVA to isolate his timeline from other variants, I would think the other Immortus variants who wanted peace would have done the same thing. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:956080278] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>Sir Will posted... </cite> <quote>I figured the TVA would exist outside time and there'd be only 1. I guess each timeline has their own now then? Hope he gets back where he belongs quickly then.</quote> Yeah, I'm kinda unclear on that, too. But... With Immortus' explanation, if he created the TVA to isolate his timeline from other variants, I would think the other Immortus variants who wanted peace would have done the same thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 07/14/21 4:16:31 PM #176:	lolife67 posted... We got closure on the main plot, which was who is actually running the TVA and why. We did, and while all the signs were pointing to Kang all along, I've always found him fairly dull. <cite>Glob posted [p:956080311] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>lolife67 posted... </cite> <quote>We got closure on the main plot, which was who is actually running the TVA and why.</quote> We did, and while all the signs were pointing to Kang all along, I've always found him fairly dull. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 07/14/21 4:24:28 PM #177:	Glob posted... We did, and while all the signs were pointing to Kang all along, I've always found him fairly dull. It's definitely going to be difficult to sell him as "the next Thanos". --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:956080636] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>Glob posted... </cite> <quote>We did, and while all the signs were pointing to Kang all along, I've always found him fairly dull.</quote>It's definitely going to be difficult to sell him as "the next Thanos". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 07/14/21 4:26:29 PM #178:	Are we losing the fact that all of this multiverse shit happened after the Battle of New York in 2012, yet Infinity War was in 2023 yet shit aint changed? time travel shit sucks --- Brady will never receive a HOF vote. He has been blackballed for cheating. - DeadCellReborn <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:956080719] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>Are we losing the fact that all of this multiverse shit happened after the Battle of New York in 2012, yet Infinity War was in 2023 yet shit aint changed? time travel shit sucks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 07/14/21 4:28:13 PM #179:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... Are we losing the fact that all of this multiverse shit happened after the Battle of New York in 2012, yet Infinity War was in 2023 yet shit aint changed? Huh? BLAKUboy posted... It's definitely going to be difficult to sell him as "the next Thanos". I thought he was charming. Helped sell the exposition. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:956080776] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>1NfamousACE_2 posted... </cite> <quote>Are we losing the fact that all of this multiverse shit happened after the Battle of New York in 2012, yet Infinity War was in 2023 yet shit aint changed?</quote>Huh? BLAKUboy posted... </cite> <quote>It's definitely going to be difficult to sell him as "the next Thanos".</quote>I thought he was charming. Helped sell the exposition. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 07/14/21 4:29:06 PM #180:	Sir Will posted... Huh? this season of Loki was set in 2012, right after the battle of New York --- Brady will never receive a HOF vote. He has been blackballed for cheating. - DeadCellReborn <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:956080820] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>Sir Will posted... </cite> <quote>Huh?</quote> this season of Loki was set in 2012, right after the battle of New York </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 07/14/21 4:29:25 PM #181:	BLAKUboy posted... It's definitely going to be difficult to sell him as "the next Thanos". I like Thanos in the comics but I thought he was awful in the MCU. <cite>Glob posted [p:956080833] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>BLAKUboy posted... </cite> <quote>It's definitely going to be difficult to sell him as "the next Thanos".</quote> I like Thanos in the comics but I thought he was awful in the MCU. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolife67 07/14/21 4:33:12 PM #182:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... this season of Loki was set in 2012, right after the battle of New York No it isn't. The TVA exists outside of time. <cite>lolife67 posted [p:956080966] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>1NfamousACE_2 posted... </cite> <quote>this season of Loki was set in 2012, right after the battle of New York</quote>No it isn't. The TVA exists outside of time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 07/14/21 4:37:55 PM #183:	lolife67 posted... No it isn't. The TVA exists outside of time. understandable but this Loki was taken in 2012, so we should have seen the effects from the multiverse within the 9 years --- Brady will never receive a HOF vote. He has been blackballed for cheating. - DeadCellReborn <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:956081149] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>lolife67 posted... </cite> <quote>No it isn't. The TVA exists outside of time.</quote> understandable but this Loki was taken in 2012, so we should have seen the effects from the multiverse within the 9 years </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 07/14/21 4:40:09 PM #184:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... we should have seen the effects from the multiverse within the 9 years Why? --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:956081225] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>1NfamousACE_2 posted... </cite> <quote>we should have seen the effects from the multiverse within the 9 years</quote>Why? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 07/14/21 4:40:29 PM #185:	It only occurred because they went back from 2023. And we don't know what all this will cause. Glob posted... I like Thanos in the comics but I thought he was awful in the MCU. Thanos was great in the MCU. I haven't read him in the comic but simping for Death doesn't sound that interesting. But hey, maybe he is there too. But I liked him in the MCU. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:956081240] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>It only occurred because they went back from 2023. And we don't know what all this will cause. Glob posted... </cite> <quote>I like Thanos in the comics but I thought he was awful in the MCU.</quote>Thanos was great in the MCU. I haven't read him in the comic but simping for Death doesn't sound that interesting. But hey, maybe he is there too. But I liked him in the MCU. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Derwood 07/14/21 4:42:59 PM #186:	CableZL posted... Mobius and B-15 weren't reset. Those were just variants in a different timeline. We dont know that <cite>Derwood posted [p:956081328] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite> <quote>Mobius and B-15 weren't reset. Those were just variants in a different timeline.</quote> We dont know that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 07/14/21 4:44:53 PM #187:	pegusus123456 posted... Why? because loki and Sylvie messed up the multiverse in 2012 --- Brady will never receive a HOF vote. He has been blackballed for cheating. - DeadCellReborn <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:956081381] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite> <quote>Why?</quote> because loki and Sylvie messed up the multiverse in 2012 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolife67 07/14/21 4:46:13 PM #188:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... understandable but this Loki was taken in 2012, so we should have seen the effects from the multiverse within the 9 years That's not how any of this works. Since the TVA exists outside of time, the effects can be felt all through the timestream at any point. That's why they can simply open doorways to any point in time. It's not following a linear timestream. <cite>lolife67 posted [p:956081429] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>1NfamousACE_2 posted... </cite> <quote>understandable but this Loki was taken in 2012, so we should have seen the effects from the multiverse within the 9 years</quote>That's not how any of this works. Since the TVA exists outside of time, the effects can be felt all through the timestream at any point. That's why they can simply open doorways to any point in time. It's not following a linear timestream. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 07/14/21 4:46:30 PM #189:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... because loki and Sylvie messed up the multiverse in 2012 But why would we see the effects of it? They're different universes. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:956081442] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>1NfamousACE_2 posted... </cite> <quote>because loki and Sylvie messed up the multiverse in 2012</quote>But why would we see the effects of it? They're different universes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 07/14/21 4:46:37 PM #190:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... this season of Loki was set in 2012, right after the battle of New York this season happened in a dozen different times. the stuff in the castle happened at literally the end of time. after, actually, although i'm not quite sure how that works. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Of course I'm paranoid, everyone is trying to kill me. <cite>Medussa posted [p:956081449] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>1NfamousACE_2 posted... </cite> <quote>this season of Loki was set in 2012, right after the battle of New York</quote> this season happened in a dozen different times. the stuff in the castle happened at literally the end of time. after, actually, although i'm not quite sure how that works. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJKirby 07/14/21 4:47:13 PM #191:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... because loki and Sylvie messed up the multiverse in 2012 Loki is from 2012, everything else isnt --- Not changing this signature until Beyond Good and Evil 2 is in my hand. August 25th, 2010. <cite>SSJKirby posted [p:956081474] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>1NfamousACE_2 posted... </cite> <quote>because loki and Sylvie messed up the multiverse in 2012</quote>Loki is from 2012, everything else isnt </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 07/14/21 4:50:56 PM #192:	lolife67 posted... That's not how any of this works. Since the TVA exists outside of time, the effects can be felt all through the timestream at any point. That's why they can simply open doorways to any point in time. It's not following a linear timestream. but theyre going directly to that point. So tell me exactly when this story takes place? --- Brady will never receive a HOF vote. He has been blackballed for cheating. - DeadCellReborn <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:956081584] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>lolife67 posted... </cite> <quote>That's not how any of this works. Since the TVA exists outside of time, the effects can be felt all through the timestream at any point. That's why they can simply open doorways to any point in time. It's not following a linear timestream.</quote> but theyre going directly to that point. So tell me exactly when this story takes place? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 07/14/21 4:51:48 PM #193:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... this season of Loki was set in 2012, right after the battle of New York No, thats just when this Loki is from. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 Boop Trooper reporting for duty. <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:956081612] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>1NfamousACE_2 posted... </cite> <quote>this season of Loki was set in 2012, right after the battle of New York</quote>No, thats just when this Loki is from. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 07/14/21 4:52:56 PM #194:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... So tell me exactly when this story takes place? Yes. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:956081655] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>1NfamousACE_2 posted... </cite> <quote>So tell me exactly when this story takes place?</quote>Yes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolife67 07/14/21 4:54:27 PM #195:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... but theyre going directly to that point. So tell me exactly when this story takes place? It takes place outside of time so there's no set date. <cite>lolife67 posted [p:956081703] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>1NfamousACE_2 posted... </cite> <quote>but theyre going directly to that point. So tell me exactly when this story takes place?</quote>It takes place outside of time so there's no set date. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 07/14/21 4:56:23 PM #196:	lolife67 posted... It takes place outside of time so there's no set date. so theyre gonna feel effects of this during Captain America First Avenger? --- Brady will never receive a HOF vote. He has been blackballed for cheating. - DeadCellReborn <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:956081776] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>lolife67 posted... </cite> <quote>It takes place outside of time so there's no set date.</quote> so theyre gonna feel effects of this during Captain America First Avenger? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolife67 07/14/21 4:57:51 PM #197:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... so theyre gonna feel effects of this during Captain America First Avenger? Possibly, yes they could. It could be one of the branch time lines we saw forming. <cite>lolife67 posted [p:956081827] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>1NfamousACE_2 posted... </cite> <quote>so theyre gonna feel effects of this during Captain America First Avenger?</quote>Possibly, yes they could. It could be one of the branch time lines we saw forming. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 07/14/21 5:02:45 PM #198:	BLAKUboy posted... The thing is, Loki was thrust into the TVA before Sylvie killed Kang. So it shouldn't have been altered while he was in it. The timelines were already being altered since the TVA weren't pruning them. We see them branching out as they're talking. 1NfamousACE_2 posted... understandable but this Loki was taken in 2012, so we should have seen the effects from the multiverse within the 9 years No that timeline was pruned in the first episode. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:956081980] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>BLAKUboy posted... </cite> <quote>The thing is, Loki was thrust into the TVA before Sylvie killed Kang. So it shouldn't have been altered while he was in it.</quote> The timelines were already being altered since the TVA weren't pruning them. We see them branching out as they're talking. 1NfamousACE_2 posted... </cite> <quote>understandable but this Loki was taken in 2012, so we should have seen the effects from the multiverse within the 9 years</quote> No that timeline was pruned in the first episode. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
archedsoul 07/14/21 5:09:42 PM #199:	My guess on the end is that the Multiverse War started as soon as she killed him. And it could have gone on for centuries. Everything changed between the scene we see Mobius and B-15 looking at the TV screen and Loki meeting them by the Kang statue. They're satisfied that it's happening before. When Loki meets them, Mobius' suit is all clean and straight and B-15 is saying that "he" as in Kang, wants them all to branch and they're all worried. My guess is that Kang has already taken over the TVA from the beginning. And since it's "outside of time", instead of branching, it was overwritten. I don't think infinite TVAs with Loki ending up in a random one is the way they're gonna go about this. Way too messy. Loki can probably use enchantment to bring B-15 and Mobius back. KogaSteelfang posted... I'm just basing it on the lecture they snuck into, where the guy helping ghost was explains about quantum entanglement between separate realities. Talking about a subject being entangled with multiple realities at once. Seemed like he had become an expert on that while learning how to help her. Also, iirc that was what they were testing when she got her powers. Alongside her phased out versions often taking different actions from her. Just seemed like that's what they were going for. Quantum displacement is different from different realities. She was hit with quantum energy. 1NfamousACE_2 posted... so theyre gonna feel effects of this during Captain America First Avenger? There are no effects, at least there shouldn't be, but I'm guessing some branches will collide. Otherwise, the main timeline will remain the same. Nothing changed. --- "Fear cuts deeper than swords." <cite>archedsoul posted [p:956082222] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>My guess on the end is that the Multiverse War started as soon as she killed him. And it could have gone on for centuries. Everything changed between the scene we see Mobius and B-15 looking at the TV screen and Loki meeting them by the Kang statue. They're satisfied that it's happening before. When Loki meets them, Mobius' suit is all clean and straight and B-15 is saying that "he" as in Kang, wants them all to branch and they're all worried. My guess is that Kang has already taken over the TVA from the beginning. And since it's "outside of time", instead of branching, it was overwritten. I don't think infinite TVAs with Loki ending up in a random one is the way they're gonna go about this. Way too messy. Loki can probably use enchantment to bring B-15 and Mobius back. KogaSteelfang posted... </cite> <quote>I'm just basing it on the lecture they snuck into, where the guy helping ghost was explains about quantum entanglement between separate realities. Talking about a subject being entangled with multiple realities at once. Seemed like he had become an expert on that while learning how to help her. Also, iirc that was what they were testing when she got her powers. Alongside her phased out versions often taking different actions from her. Just seemed like that's what they were going for.</quote>Quantum displacement is different from different realities. She was hit with quantum energy. 1NfamousACE_2 posted... </cite> <quote>so theyre gonna feel effects of this during Captain America First Avenger?</quote>There are no effects, at least there shouldn't be, but I'm guessing some branches will collide. Otherwise, the main timeline will remain the same. Nothing changed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 07/14/21 5:14:33 PM #200:	Sir Will posted... Thanos was great in the MCU. I I'm not sure why people think this. He was just hyped to hell and back. Literally more than any other character in the history of film. When he finally turned up, he wasn't interesting or compelling. He was just a powerful enemy to be taken down. MCU isn't great at villains generally though. <cite>Glob posted [p:956082365] in Loki Episo... [t:79562178]...</cite> <quote>Sir Will posted... </cite> <quote>Thanos was great in the MCU. I</quote> I'm not sure why people think this. He was just hyped to hell and back. Literally more than any other character in the history of film. When he finally turned up, he wasn't interesting or compelling. He was just a powerful enemy to be taken down. MCU isn't great at villains generally though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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