Poll of the Day > ALL Burger King Employees QUIT as Conservatives Blame JOE BIDEN!!!

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mario2000 posted...

Your mistake is laying the blame with the workers, not the employers.

Never said the employers weren't at fault but go ahead and put words in my mouth

Mead posted...

let him look down on them

he needs this

What are you even talking about?

BlackScythe0 posted...

lol? Yea they are totally going to put "I quit with all my coworkers to give a big middle finger to the franchise owner lol it was awesome we even changed the sign on the road to let everyone know what we did"

Think for even a second dude.

Considering that this went viral they won't need to do that

And if you had bothered to read what I said resume was the wrong choice of words but all I'm saying is this could affect them down the road

An employer will likely think "do I hire employee A who has good references or employee B who quit without notice and put up a sign so they could get attention on social media?"

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out

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When I worked at BK I asked why I couldnt get overtime and the head manager told me she wasnt allowed to give fulltime cause Obama care.

In other words they where fucking the employees to avoid having to cover their insurance.

I'm not against universal health care but liberals always seem to sorely underestimate rich peoples ability to find loopholes.

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Metalsonic66 posted...

I would have voted for Joe Exotic

would have been a million times better than this zombie puppet we have right now

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I'm pretty sure there was a study done on this. The longer people can get unemployment benefits they longer people remain unemployed. When unemployment ends sooner, people then get back to work sooner.

It's almost as if when people see their free ride coming to an end they make an actual effort to get a job or something. And with all the added extra money they were giving out it made no sense for people to go back to work.

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Decoy77 posted...

would have been a million times better than any president in the last 20 years

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Decoy77 posted...

I'm pretty sure there was a study done on this.

so find it and post it here

because all the information i can find suggests the opposite of your claim

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Sadly many jobs that require college are now paying about the same as Mc Donalds (especially management positions, which you can get quickly).

So people really do have 30-50k in student loan debt and make about the same as a Mc D's employee (possible even some are working there lol.

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Lmao, that is funny stuff. What a way to quit

mooreandrew58 posted...

When I worked at BK I asked why I couldnt get overtime and the head manager told me she wasnt allowed to give fulltime cause Obama care.

In other words they where fucking the employees to avoid having to cover their insurance.

I'm not against universal health care but liberals always seem to sorely underestimate rich peoples ability to find loopholes.

You probably just live in a conservative area. I haven't seen any significant changes in the amount of full time positions available in low level employment before and after obamacare despite all the people crying about it.

BlackScythe0 posted...

You probably just live in a conservative area.

No its like that pretty much everywhere. It started before the ACA even passed

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helIy posted...

so find it and post it here

because all the information i can find suggests the opposite of your claim

"Reducing the duration of unemployment benefits increases the exit rate from unemployment. Data from seven studies show that the exit rate from unemployment for those with reduced duration of benefit entitlement on average is 10 per cent. This corresponds to a 52% chance that those with reduced duration will find a job before an unemployed person with the existing, longer duration (no effect corresponds to a 50% chance)."

Plain language summary
Reducing the maximum duration of unemployment benefits increases the job finding rate of the unemployed

aka - you gonna be losing your benefits, you better find a job!

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.4073/csr.2018.2

Just one study, this was from 2018.

Another study from 2009 in Germany. The outcome they conclude is exactly what most people would assume.

"We estimate the causal effect of extended benefit duration on unemployment duration and
on the job match quality using a sharp discontinuity at age 45 on the maximum duration
of unemployment benefits in Germany.
We show that there is a spike in the unemployment exit rate at the point when benefits
are exhausted and that extending benefit duration reduces the job-finding rate."

Meaning again when peoples benefits are running out they go looking for a job...gee whoda thunk it? They did also find that those that wait until the last minute of right before or shortly after their benefits run out they aren't as happy with the job they get or might be a lower paying job...but that is what you get for waiting till the last minute to find a job till right as your benefits run out. So there needs to be a good balance. Enough time to find a new job, but going for too long or paying way too much will greatly disincentive people to actually look for a job too. Gotta balance it out. IMO anything more than 6 months of unemployment is too much. You can go to your local McD's and get hired probably on the spot and make $12 flipping burgers anymore.

http://ftp.iza.org/dp4670.pdf

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BlackScythe0 posted...

You probably just live in a conservative area. I haven't seen any significant changes in the amount of full time positions available in low level employment before and after obamacare despite all the people crying about it.

All I can tell you is I got told by 2 different head managers at 2 different BKs the same thing.

I'm not bashing the healthcare plan itself. I'm bashing those that wrote it failed to not realize companies could skirt around it if they really wanted just by hiring more people and working them less. Perfect workaround for jobs that don't require qualifications

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I once wrote a paper on how a student can make more money then their teacher by working at mcdonalds.

Basically you can start working at mc D's at 14, you can become a shift manager while still in high school (25$/hr, already more then teachers back then made), and you qualify for a general manager position after 3 years (but you have to be 18).

General managers make about 60k a year, and you could in theory STILL be in school (senior and 18 years old) and be a general manager though it's not too likely.

As an aside, teachers at the time started at 30k/year (and usually had student loans since in CA you have a year long accredation process and a min of bachelors to be a teacher), and got no raises for 5 years.

So yeah, when teachers were telling students to go to college or work at mc donalds back in the day......it was kinda ironic.

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The hardees near me doesnt have enough workers to stay open like they use to. they're only open 9-5 most days and Sunday closed

Decoy77 posted...

"Reducing the duration of unemployment benefits increases the exit rate from unemployment. Data from seven studies show that the exit rate from unemployment for those with reduced duration of benefit entitlement on average is 10 per cent. This corresponds to a 52% chance that those with reduced duration will find a job before an unemployed person with the existing, longer duration (no effect corresponds to a 50% chance)."

Plain language summary
Reducing the maximum duration of unemployment benefits increases the job finding rate of the unemployed

aka - you gonna be losing your benefits, you better find a job!

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.4073/csr.2018.2

Just one study, this was from 2018.

Another study from 2009 in Germany. The outcome they conclude is exactly what most people would assume.

"We estimate the causal effect of extended benefit duration on unemployment duration and
on the job match quality using a sharp discontinuity at age 45 on the maximum duration
of unemployment benefits in Germany.
We show that there is a spike in the unemployment exit rate at the point when benefits
are exhausted and that extending benefit duration reduces the job-finding rate."

Meaning again when peoples benefits are running out they go looking for a job...gee whoda thunk it? They did also find that those that wait until the last minute of right before or shortly after their benefits run out they aren't as happy with the job they get or might be a lower paying job...but that is what you get for waiting till the last minute to find a job till right as your benefits run out. So there needs to be a good balance. Enough time to find a new job, but going for too long or paying way too much will greatly disincentive people to actually look for a job too. Gotta balance it out. IMO anything more than 6 months of unemployment is too much. You can go to your local McD's and get hired probably on the spot and make $12 flipping burgers anymore.

http://ftp.iza.org/dp4670.pdf

https://equitablegrowth.org/the-long-run-implications-of-extending-unemployment-benefits-in-the-united-states-for-workers-firms-and-the-economy/

It tends to be a bad idea to force people into low paying jobs that they are overqualified for. Bad for the people and bad for the economy. Your reliance on a singular data point of quickest to find a job is myopic and shows little understanding of the wide range of impacts and effects unemployment benefits have.


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A relative applied for a job his former boss strongly pushed for him to get and they refused to hire him without three years of experience. Then conservatives want to claim the low-paying jobs are "not for adults" and demonize low-paid workers. Well the conservatives are getting what they wanted: older people not taking those low-paying jobs.

That said, in this case I'd hope there is some kind of liability for forcing workers to work in that condition with no air conditioner to the point of dehydration. This is one of those stories that sounds over the top until reading the whole thing. If management calls someone a "baby" for being hospitalized for dehydration, there's no excuse.

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