Current Events > Woman faces year in prison for crumpling blue lives matter sign and 'smirking'

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Solid Snake07
07/11/21 10:27:32 AM
#101:


Shezarr posted...
Youre so chronically full of shit lmao


If someone were to assault you or vandalize your property on the basis of you being a paper grader you could make the case for a hate crime

Probably doesn't happen very often though

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RedJackson
07/11/21 10:27:54 AM
#102:


Well at least I know my hatred towards cops is justified and tripled after reading this

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Xethuminra
07/11/21 10:28:12 AM
#103:


Among the groups protected is political affiliation.
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Thaumaturge
07/11/21 10:28:23 AM
#104:


Solid Snake07 posted...
What does free speech have to do with vandalising someone else's property?

Solid Snake07 posted...
Committing a crime with an element of bias is a hate crime. That isn't limited to a bias based on race or sexual orientation.

I agree it's a bit heavy handed for something so petty. But maybe don't commit crimes and you won't have to worry about it.

Enjoy all of this while you can. When cops go too far or they attack the wrong person and they're declared an enemy of the people, it will be too late to take this back. Right now cops are counting on the fact that even though they are usually outnumbered 3:1 in all scenarios, that no civilian would dare interfere. What happens when that changes?
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Shezarr
07/11/21 10:29:45 AM
#105:


Solid Snake07 posted...
If someone were to assault you or vandalize your property on the basis of you being a paper grader you could make the case for a hate crime

Probably doesn't happen very often though
A paper grader?

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DezDroppedFreak
07/11/21 10:30:05 AM
#106:


Xethuminra posted...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/as-hate-crime-laws-expand-who-to-exclude-as-victims/2019/09/03/796fe814-bd30-11e9-a5c6-1e74f7ec4a93_story.html

Certain states include the homeless & police under direct protection from hate crimes, among other groups (such as shaming someone for attending one school over another)
And of course this happened in the most heavy handed state (Utah)

including officers in that blanket is bullshit and dilutes the point of such legislation

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Thaumaturge
07/11/21 10:31:19 AM
#107:


Shezarr posted...

A paper grader?

I think that's what that uneducated Southerner calls a teacher.
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Shezarr
07/11/21 10:31:58 AM
#108:


Thaumaturge posted...
I think that's what that uneducated Southerner calls a teacher.
Seems that way. No surprise when a bootlicker is anti-education though

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brestugo
07/11/21 10:32:27 AM
#109:


teep_ posted...
What does vandalising someone else's property have to do with being charged with a hate crime?
This is the crux right here. The penalty for vandalizing a $5 yard sign is rightly probably pretty low. Hate crime charges are probably pretty steep, and rightly so.

This cop is trying to send some kind of "message" by overcharging this young girl over a yard sign.

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Funkydog
07/11/21 10:33:46 AM
#110:


America, land of free speech, as long as it's not criticising the government and its institutions!

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scorpion41
07/11/21 10:40:16 AM
#111:


Funkydog posted...
America, land of free speech, as long as it's not criticising the government and its institutions!

Except she was just being a dick and not criticizing anything. While I agree that the charge was a bit much, she went looking for trouble.

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Ryuko_Chan
07/11/21 10:41:13 AM
#112:


small penis moment

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Zikten
07/11/21 10:43:36 AM
#113:


That sounds like the most pathetic cop in the world
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Gwynevere
07/11/21 10:43:55 AM
#114:


Fuck cops

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IfGodCouldDie
07/11/21 10:50:38 AM
#115:


kinetika_ posted...
I thought averagejoel was a self-proclaimed communist... so why would he mention free speech in this instance lol??
What do communism and free speech have to do with each other?

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BanthaBreed
07/11/21 10:52:49 AM
#116:


I'm kind of glad she got arrested. Any halfway competent attorney is goin to get her a HUGE payday.

Good for her
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teep_
07/11/21 11:12:28 AM
#117:


BanthaBreed posted...
I'm kind of glad she got arrested. Any halfway competent attorney is goin to get her a HUGE payday.

Good for her

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yutterh
07/11/21 11:23:24 AM
#119:


I love how she gets arrested but the woman who tore down those kids drawings about BLM got off Scott free lol

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DrAgOn121
07/12/21 2:37:19 AM
#120:


CyricZ posted...
Since when were the police a protected group?

Is cop a race? A religion? A gender? A sexuality?

(I feel like I'm answering a lot of my own questions already here)
I believe they are a gender LMFAO.

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Medussa
07/12/21 2:38:20 AM
#121:


r/onejoke bump

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teep_
07/12/21 3:03:01 AM
#122:


Good subreddit rec
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NoxObscuras
07/12/21 3:04:17 AM
#123:


I doubt she'll get a year in prison for that (topic title makes it sound like she was already sentenced). Kind of stupid to taunt a cop for the hell of it though.

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Shablagoo
07/12/21 3:07:04 AM
#124:


Im so fucked once my handler passes.

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HairyQueen
07/12/21 3:15:48 AM
#125:


Since when are cops a protected class?

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ModLogic
07/12/21 3:48:12 AM
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hockeybub89
07/12/21 4:01:55 AM
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PC-Builder_Pony
07/12/21 4:02:17 AM
#129:


Good

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KStateKing17
07/12/21 4:20:58 AM
#130:


Lmfao a hate crime? Fuck him

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Robot2600
07/12/21 10:55:09 AM
#131:


Conception616 posted...
Waaahhhhh, she looked at me mean, so I arrested her!


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hockeybub89
07/12/21 11:07:38 AM
#132:


KStateKing17 posted...
Lmfao a hate crime? Fuck him
I was told by the right that a "hate crime" is just a crime and we shouldn't have an arbitrary qualifier that can be abused.

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Patchwork
07/12/21 11:13:50 AM
#133:


If the sign is someone elses property, its the victims choice in whether charges are brought on that count. However, I take serious issue with the officer noting the intimidating smirk in the report or charging documents.

Real fucking unnecessary and stupid.

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eston
07/12/21 11:19:41 AM
#134:


I think she would have a very good case for malicious prosecution on this one

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FortuneCookie
07/12/21 11:23:49 AM
#135:


Hate crime? I don't think people are born police officers.
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Patchwork
07/12/21 1:28:16 PM
#136:


Police are already protected classes in cases where it actually matters, like when theyre physically assaulted. They dont need to be, nor should they be, protected under hate crime statutes.

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Ryuko_Chan
07/12/21 5:00:50 PM
#137:


PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
She would have been killed if she crumpled a Blood or Crip sign.
Lmao

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Robot2600
07/13/21 12:30:49 PM
#138:


FortuneCookie posted...
Hate crime? I don't think people are born police officers.


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Jiek_Fafn
07/14/21 8:53:13 AM
#140:


Depending on the location and what exactly was said, it might not even have been a legal arrest.

Like in many states she could've said "I don't answer questions" and the cop can't reasonably assume she was committing a crime by her actions and had no legal reason to arrest her. That would've probably been ignored in some sort of "deal" offered to her though. I hope there's a proper recording of the encounter.

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ledbowman
07/14/21 9:24:46 AM
#141:


free speech doesn't include antagonizing law enforcment

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itachi15243
07/14/21 9:32:12 AM
#142:


The living fuck?

How is this not bigger news. The cop literally arrested her because of her feelings towards police / political stance.

This needs to be appealed to the fucking highest court possible. The officer should be arrested and sued after this.

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Samurontai
07/14/21 9:37:34 AM
#143:


If she stole it and destroyed it, which it seems was probably the case, then perfectly fair

if not, then yeah, thats fucked up

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Shezarr
07/14/21 9:38:59 AM
#144:


Samurontai posted...
If she stole it and destroyed it, which it seems was probably the case, then perfectly fair

if not, then yeah, thats fucked up
Probably the case isnt up to the cops guess. Also not a hate crime

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Samurontai
07/14/21 9:40:44 AM
#145:


Shezarr posted...
Probably the case isnt up to the cops guess. Also not a hate crime

That was my guess, actually. They said her stories were inconsistent, which led to my assumption.

And it doesnt matter if its a hate crime (which I dont think it is). If she destroyed stolen property, its still a crime.

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TheVipaGTS
07/14/21 9:41:45 AM
#146:


This is an actual first amendment violation but the usual suspects wont rush to defend her.

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Iron-Tarkus
07/14/21 9:42:20 AM
#147:


GregShmedley posted...
I do love when posters remind me why I tagged them.
Im halfway through the topic and just about everyone jumping in to say fair next is really living up to their tag.

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Medussa
07/14/21 9:42:30 AM
#148:


Samurontai posted...
its still a crime.

seriously asking: isn't petit theft usually a citation?

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Samurontai
07/14/21 9:42:35 AM
#149:


TheVipaGTS posted...
This is an actual first amendment violation but the usual suspects wont rush to defend her.

Destroying stolen property isnt protected by the first amendment.

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TheVipaGTS
07/14/21 9:43:22 AM
#150:


Samurontai posted...
Destroying stolen property isnt protected by the first amendment.
But it says right in the article its being treated as a hate crime. She wasnt arrested for destroying stolen property. That wouldnt come with years in jail. Now she just has to fight this bull shit all because a cop got ass hurt. He appprently left an actual traffic stop to confront her about this.

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