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-RetroActive-
07/11/21 7:22:09 AM
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https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/

Thanks, capitalism.

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Turtlebread
07/11/21 7:24:32 AM
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Damn I wish I had $1000

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Squall28
07/11/21 7:24:49 AM
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How does Jeff Bezos having more money affect you personally?

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Relient_K
07/11/21 7:28:04 AM
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Squall28 posted...
How does Jeff Bozos having more money affect you personally?

This is a stupid question.

There is quite literally, a finite amount of wealth in the world. When the super rich hoard massive amounts on cash instead of spending it (or say, paying taxes) it makes everyone else poorer. As they continue to accumulated wealth and buy up land and property the opportunities for others shrink.

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008Zulu
07/11/21 7:32:33 AM
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It is Jeff Bezo's fault that Amazon became a giant company. It surely wasn't the hundreds of millions of people buying from it every year that contributed.

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Squall28
07/11/21 7:37:36 AM
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Relient_K posted...
This is a stupid question.

There is quite literally, a finite amount of wealth in the world. When the super rich hoard massive amounts on cash instead of spending it (or say, paying taxes) it makes everyone else poorer. As they continue to accumulated wealth and buy up land and property the opportunities for others shrink.

The amount of wealth in the world keeps growing, and Bezos wealth is based on a valuation of something he owns. It's like if someone offers you a million dollars to buy your house. You don't actually have a million dollars in cash from that, but you'll be counted as a millionaire.

Then let's say you keep getting better offers on your house. The price keeps going up. Are you hoarding wealth? Are you sucking resources from the world because you are getting better offers?


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NeonOctopus
07/11/21 7:40:30 AM
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Man, that is a lot of scrolling. I saw the bar after Bezos and I just gave up lol

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Prismsblade
07/11/21 7:44:16 AM
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Relient_K posted...
This is a stupid question.

There is quite literally, a finite amount of wealth in the world. When the super rich hoard massive amounts on cash instead of spending it (or say, paying taxes) it makes everyone else poorer. As they continue to accumulated wealth and buy up land and property the opportunities for others shrink.
So why hasn't our bottom lines QoL scailed accordingly? It should have gotten worse based on your logic but it's been the opposite.

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Xavier_On_High
07/11/21 7:45:15 AM
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008Zulu posted...
It is Jeff Bezo's fault that Amazon became a giant company. It surely wasn't the hundreds of millions of people buying from it every year that contributed.

Most people don't have the time to think about who they're buying from, nor the money to be able to afford to take a stand against the corporations undercutting other sellers. They're rightly concerned about more immediate problems and trust that lawmakers will keep inequality under control.

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LinkDaLunatic
07/11/21 7:57:48 AM
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here come the billionaire haters! why can't you guys just kiss billionaire ass like i do? can't you see that those people worked 700,000 times harder than everyone else and that's why they have all that money? can't you accept that it's not immoral for them to horde that wealth while millions are below the poverty line because they're not obligated to give anything back to the country that made them wealthy? are you really so daft that you can't fathom that their quality of life, which would not be greatly different between 1 billion and 200 billion, is more important than the success of the nation they live in?

god, you all just want free handouts! you just want free money! you just want to not have to work! you're all socialists! i personally don't have an issue with these people not paying their share in taxes! i personally don't have an issue with them living better than kings while thousands starve or die of treatable illnesses every day! i personally don't have an issue with people failing to make ends meet working 80 hours a week! i personally don't have an issue with reduced school budgets, crumbling neighborhoods, soaring healthcare costs, shattered infrastructure, or the fact that the planet is literally dying and small chunks of that wealth could actually help to save it! all of those aren't issues that people that control majority power in the world should have to think about! it's on YOU to solve these problems! go donate some school supplies! go fill some potholes! go build massive solar farms and help society upgrade to electric vehicles to greatly reduce our reliance on fossil fuels! why aren't you doing your part?!?!?!?!? stop eating avocado toast! this is easy stuff people, super simple stuff, but here you are crying about other people having money!

ugh. i don't have time to sit here and explain to you guys why you're wrong about all this. that website that the topic creator posted is just poor people math and socialist propaganda. topic closed.
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Solid Snake07
07/11/21 7:59:51 AM
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Wealth isn't a finite resource so it doesn't really matter.

Bezos growing amazon into one of the largest companies in the world didn't take money out if yours or anyone else's pocket. It's a childs view of finance and economics to act otherwise.

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Samurontai
07/11/21 8:08:13 AM
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You know TC, if you hate Capitalism so much, theres plenty of socialist/communist countries you could move to that seem to be doing okay.

Like Venezuela oh wait..

Maybe China oh theyre a dictatorship. Yikes

Laos maybe?

Man, its almost like most socialist countries tend to just not be that great. Wonder why that is


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Xavier_On_High
07/11/21 8:12:00 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Wealth isn't a finite resource so it doesn't really matter.

Bezos growing amazon into one of the largest companies in the world didn't take money out if yours or anyone else's pocket. It's a childs view of finance and economics to act otherwise.

You realise that Bezos basically doesn't pay tax, right? You buy something from Amazon, and the portion of the money that he should be paying as tax just disappears. How is that not taking money out of regular people's pockets?

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Solid Snake07
07/11/21 8:16:10 AM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
You realise that Bezos basically doesn't pay tax, right? You buy something from Amazon, and the portion of the money that he should be paying as tax just disappears. How is that not taking money out of regular people's pockets?


Jeff Bezos absolutely paid taxes on any amazon stock he's ever sold. Amazon earnings don't just go into his personal accounts. That's not how running a public company works

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
07/11/21 8:18:14 AM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
You realise that Bezos basically doesn't pay tax, right? You buy something from Amazon, and the portion of the money that he should be paying as tax just disappears. How is that not taking money out of regular people's pockets?
Why Would bezos pay tax just because i bought something from Amazon? Wouldn't that be Amazon paying it?

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Unsugarized_Foo
07/11/21 8:22:22 AM
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Bezo's company has touched roughly 1,200,000,000 people

Yo ass hasn't even touched a girl

Bezobby

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Solid Snake07
07/11/21 8:22:28 AM
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
Why Would bezos pay tax just because i bought something from Amazon? Wouldn't that be Amazon paying it?


It'd be you paying it. It's called sales tax

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Xavier_On_High
07/11/21 8:23:35 AM
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
Why Would bezos pay tax just because i bought something from Amazon? Wouldn't that be Amazon paying it?

Amazon itself avoids paying a huge proportion of its taxes. And Bezos' income comes from that, which he then also avoids paying tax on.

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Error1355
07/11/21 8:23:58 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Wealth isn't a finite resource so it doesn't really matter.

Bezos growing amazon into one of the largest companies in the world didn't take money out if yours or anyone else's pocket. It's a childs view of finance and economics to act otherwise.
I pay more in taxes than Amazon does.

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Southernfatman
07/11/21 8:26:16 AM
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There has to be something in the brain that causes certain folks to defend the rich and the fucked system and be happy little worker drones. It has to be some carry over from the more primitive aspects of the brain to defend such animal like hierarchies. They defend them like royalty. They think they're literally a better class or species of people.

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LinkDaLunatic
07/11/21 8:26:20 AM
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LinkDaLunatic posted...
topic closed.

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Solid Snake07
07/11/21 8:27:11 AM
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Error1355 posted...
I pay more in taxes than Amazon does.


No you don't. Unless you paid over 4 billion in taxes last year. In which case kudos

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-RetroActive-
07/11/21 8:30:38 AM
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Samurontai posted...
You know TC, if you hate Capitalism so much, theres plenty of socialist/communist countries you could move to that seem to be doing okay.


Same energy.

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Solid Snake07
07/11/21 8:33:52 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
There has to be something in the brain that causes certain folks to defend the rich and the fucked system and be happy little worker drones. It has to be some carry over from the more primitive aspects of the brain to defend such animal like hierarchies. They defend them like royalty. They think they're literally a better class or species of people.


I don't see anyone creating topics to defend billionaires. I see multiple topics a day of people crying about them. Which they probably posted from an apple or samsung phone through a browser owned and operated by google to cry about how much capitalism marginalizes the average person

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ROOTFayth
07/11/21 8:35:25 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
There has to be something in the brain that causes certain folks to defend the rich and the fucked system and be happy little worker drones. It has to be some carry over from the more primitive aspects of the brain to defend such animal like hierarchies. They defend them like royalty. They think they're literally a better class or species of people.
think theres something more wrong with people who wants communism tbh
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ThePusher
07/11/21 8:38:14 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
I don't see anyone creating topics to defend billionaires. I see multiple topics a day of people crying about them. Which they probably posted from an apple or samsung phone through a browser owned and operated by google.
there are literally ppl itt & in every billionaire topic simping them & licking there boots lol its the most cuck thing ever
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viewmaster_pi
07/11/21 8:39:53 AM
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hoarding wealth is disgusting. he couldn't spend it all if he tried, and people say you can't just take the super rich's money because it's lawfully theirs, they earned it, blah blah blah. capping the amount of money the ultra-wealthy can hoard before dipping into it for social services, healthcare, infrastructure maintenance, improved wages, etc, may seem like socialism to people, but no one person has any practical use for such an enormous amount of money that'll just sit in some offshore account for years and years. gross hoarding of wealth of this calibur is why society isn't going to get better. we just have to let the super rich hoard and hoard as everything outside their bubble deteriorates, because it's more ethical to allow that than use it to help the country's many many problems

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Ratchetrockon
07/11/21 8:42:36 AM
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Reminds me of that lightspeed in space thingy

Crazy

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Solid Snake07
07/11/21 8:44:26 AM
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ThePusher posted...
there are literally ppl itt & in every billionaire topic simping them & licking there boots lol its the most cuck thing ever


Okay, well I don't know if you're talking about me or not but I'm not even really defending Bezos, honestly couldn't give a shit less about him and how much his stock is currently worth. Has literally no affect on my life.

I'm just pointing out this mentality of "they have that much because they took it from the rest of us" is fucking dumb. Value isn't finite, basically all of Bezos net worth is value he created through building that company to valuation it is today.

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Xavier_On_High
07/11/21 8:50:32 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Value isn't finite, basically all of Bezos net worth is value he created through building that company to valuation it is today.

Value isn't intrinsic. It's based on how much people are willing to pay, and that in turn is based on those people's finite resources on an individual level. Amazon isn't an abstract entity, it's a company supported by the people who work for it and the societies in which it operates.

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Squall28
07/11/21 8:51:15 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
There has to be something in the brain that causes certain folks to defend the rich and the fucked system and be happy little worker drones. It has to be some carry over from the more primitive aspects of the brain to defend such animal like hierarchies. They defend them like royalty. They think they're literally a better class or species of people.

It's more correcting misinformation than defending billionaires. I'm indifferent to billionaires.

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viewmaster_pi
07/11/21 8:55:14 AM
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it's not that it was taken from anyone, it's that it'll never be used to improve the lives of anyone or the overall quality of life in america. you've got this absurd fatcat enclave of the hyper-wealthy elite like, "hm... sucks to suck" to the rest of the country as it gets worse and worse for normal people (see: not rich)

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CapnMuffin
07/11/21 8:56:31 AM
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Gawdamn.

The inconveniencing just 400 people to advance the world and save millions of lives (and the 400 will STILL be billionaires) thing got me. Crazy

Also that theres more people living in poverty in the USA than the entire population of Canada.
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averagejoel
07/11/21 8:59:27 AM
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Samurontai posted...
You know TC, if you hate Capitalism so much, theres plenty of socialist/communist countries you could move to that seem to be doing okay.

Like Venezuela oh wait..

Maybe China oh theyre a dictatorship. Yikes

Laos maybe?

Man, its almost like most socialist countries tend to just not be that great. Wonder why that is
because wealthy capitalist countries use a large portion of their resources to make them worse

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Squall28
07/11/21 9:02:47 AM
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ThePusher posted...
there are literally ppl itt & in every billionaire topic simping them & licking there boots lol its the most cuck thing ever

Lol nobody is simping shit. People explaining basic things about how the world works is not simping. The only reason I or anyone else speaks up is because you guys world view is so twisted.

How did you seriously turn presenting some basic info as bootlicking. Too much koolaid messing with your brain brother.

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Cuticrusader09
07/11/21 9:14:12 AM
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008Zulu posted...
It is Jeff Bezo's fault that Amazon became a giant company. It surely wasn't the hundreds of millions of people buying from it every year that contributed.


He wouldnt have been able to do it without the massive tax breaks Amazon got.

Local governments fall over themselves to get a warehouse to bring in jobs at a high cost to themselves.
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ThePusher
07/11/21 9:32:50 AM
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Squall28 posted...
Lol nobody is simping shit. People explaining basic things about how the world works is not simping. The only reason I or anyone else speaks up is because you guys world view is so twisted.

How did you seriously turn presenting some basic info as bootlicking. Too much koolaid messing with your brain brother.
how do those boots taste fam

i have homeless friends that wud love to have a place to live & they might if billionaires were taxed enough & actually paid them so to answer ur first dumb question that wud affect me personally
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MedeaLysistrata
07/11/21 9:45:00 AM
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Samurontai posted...
Wonder why that is
Because they dont use slavery or empire to expand early on

I guess some do... and those countries did end up quite powerful

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Solid Snake07
07/11/21 10:02:37 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
it's not that it was taken from anyone, it's that it'll never be used to improve the lives of anyone or the overall quality of life in america. you've got this absurd fatcat enclave of the hyper-wealthy elite like, "hm... sucks to suck" to the rest of the country as it gets worse and worse for normal people (see: not rich)


Lol, amazon provides full time employment for hundreds of thousands of people and issues god only knows how many independent contracts for things like building, coding, or any number of other things.

And all of those people pay taxes if uncle sam getting his cut is the ultimate endgame for you for some reason.

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Unsugarized_Foo
07/11/21 10:31:04 AM
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ThePusher posted...
how do those boots taste fam

i have homeless friends that wud love to have a place to live & they might if billionaires were taxed enough & actually paid them so to answer ur first dumb question that wud affect me personally

https://www.covenanthouse.org/

https://www.indeed.com/m/jobs?q=Amazon

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monkmith
07/11/21 10:37:52 AM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
https://www.covenanthouse.org/

https://www.indeed.com/m/jobs?q=Amazon
you can also suck dick for money, probably safer then working in an amazon warehouse.

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viewmaster_pi
07/11/21 10:38:49 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Lol, amazon provides full time employment for hundreds of thousands of people and issues god only knows how many independent contracts for things like building, coding, or any number of other things.

And all of those people pay taxes if uncle sam getting his cut is the ultimate endgame for you for some reason.
i'm not blaming amazon or jeff bezos personally for anything. i'm saying you've got people with these nearly intangible amounts of wealth, and it's just gonna sit there because that's somehow more ethically upright than a portion of it being collected and put to use improving the country. so much money that it's not even meaningfully quantifiable, just frozen there. sorry everyone under and near the poverty line. they all should have invested early, i guess

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shiby with it
07/11/21 10:41:11 AM
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Capitalism is great. Monopolies are not.

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-RetroActive-
07/11/21 10:45:29 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Lol, amazon provides full time employment for hundreds of thousands of people and issues god only knows how many independent contracts for things like building, coding, or any number of other things.
Because we all know how great Amazon working conditions are.

Oh, wait

https://theintercept.com/2021/03/25/amazon-drivers-pee-bottles-union/

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Unsugarized_Foo
07/11/21 10:54:10 AM
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monkmith posted...
you can also suck dick for money, probably safer then working in an amazon warehouse.

Youve obviously never sucked a dick more than 10 times

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FortuneCookie
07/11/21 11:33:20 AM
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I made it to the blue section before I backed out. They made their point. I don't need a half-hour lecture.

It's true that hording that amount of wealth is abhorrent, but people live vicariously through the super rich and think it's like tearing an arm off if you give a homeless person a loaf of bread.
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bluezero
07/11/21 11:41:12 AM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Youve obviously never sucked a dick more than 10 times
This topic is going places.

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g980
07/11/21 11:53:42 AM
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Relient_K posted...


This is a stupid question.

There is quite literally, a finite amount of wealth in the world. When the super rich hoard massive amounts on cash instead of spending it (or say, paying taxes) it makes everyone else poorer. As they continue to accumulated wealth and buy up land and property the opportunities for others shrink.


I hope we can all appreciate how dumb this is

A) bezos's wealth is largely based on how Amazon is valued. Just because the market agrees his shares are worth $X does not mean he magically has taken $X from someonr

B) the wealthy pay plenty of taxes (a disproportionately high amount). They should probably pay a bit more, but it is untrue to say they pay none

C) they arent hiding stacks of cash under their mattresses. Invested money funds businesses, it pretty much all continues to move through the economy.

Its annoying that i have to defend someone like Bezos - who has some very shitty business practices - but some of you guys are just so far off the mark someones gotta inject a little bit of reality into the convo
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