Current Events > "A Seattle police officer repeatedly worked more than 90 hours a week,

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racking up overtime that made him the highest-paid city employee at more than $400,000 one year and none of his supervisors noticed it. Thats the conclusion of a review by Seattles Office of Police Accountability.

No one noticed because Im pretty sure most officers are in on the grift.

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It says he was investigated and was not stealing time? Theres a lot of overtime available for police. I know guys thatll take their vacation weeks and work overtime the whole time to make the bag.

whats the grift

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darkprince45 posted...

It says he was investigated and was not stealing time? Theres a lot of overtime available for police. I know guys thatll take their vacation weeks and work overtime the whole time to make the bag.

whats the grift

Messed up. Overtime shouldn't stack on vacation time.

damn, is someone functional working 90 hours a week

I'd be a zombie

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Eramir posted...

Messed up. Overtime shouldn't stack on vacation time.

Its not. They work overtime after or before the scheduled. If their shift is 6-4. Theyll work any time after it. Nothing messed up about it

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g0ldie posted...

damn, is someone functional working 90 hours a week

I'd be a zombie

I work 45 and I'm a zombie

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we like to make that money money yeah yeah

darkprince45 posted...

It says he was investigated and was not stealing time? Theres a lot of overtime available for police. I know guys thatll take their vacation weeks and work overtime the whole time to make the bag.

whats the grift

police bad

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Eramir posted...

Messed up. Overtime shouldn't stack on vacation time.

I'm pretty sure at my job it does, and it's a union job. I haven't done it because I like my time off, but I think you can take vacation and work those days for time and a half all day.

Eramir posted...

Messed up. Overtime shouldn't stack on vacation time.

Meh. It's cashing out a benefit they've already accrued. It's not an additional cost.

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Irony posted...

I work 45 and I"m a zombie

dayum

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They shouldn't even let you work that many hours.

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darkprince45 posted...

Its not. They work overtime after or before the scheduled. If their shift is 6-4. Theyll work any time after it. Nothing messed up about it

That's what stacking time is.

Eramir posted...

That's what stacking time is.

If you say so. If you are given time per your job and work outside the scheduled pay hours. Theres literally nothing wrong with doing that. Id love to know where you think the issue is

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BlingBling22947 posted...

No one noticed because Im pretty sure most officers are in on the grift.

Reaaallllllllllyyyyyyyy. You don't say

darkprince45 posted...

If you say so. If you are given time per your job and work outside the scheduled pay hours. Theres literally nothing wrong with doing that. Id love to know where you think the issue is

So the person didn't really work overtime, but triggered time and half pay by gaming the system, vacation time isn't really meant for that.

Eramir posted...

That's what stacking time is.

Well at circle k you can take vacation time and work. You don't get double time though as vacation is a seperate entity. So it prevents stacking overtime.

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And ofc you're defending it darkprince cuz we've seen you brag about doing 50 hours week after week "juz sitting in my cruiser"

The other option would be to hire more officers to lessen the need for overtime. Problem with that is each of those officers now pull an annual salary, benefits, pension, etc and they're an ongoing cost.

Which is why it's cheaper to just run less staff and give them overtime. You aren't funding 4 pensions and 4 medical plans that way.

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Eramir posted...

So the person didn't really work overtime, but triggered time and half pay by gaming the system, vacation time isn't really meant for that.

Yup. You'd get fired anywhere else for doing that. Cops gonna be cops though

Yeah, "worked"

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Eramir posted...

So the person didn't really work overtime, but triggered time and half pay by gaming the system, vacation time isn't really meant for that.

I mean its not gaming then system at all. Its your PAID and BENEFITS time you get. Youre just looking for a reason to whine because its the CE boogeyman

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NES4EVER posted...

The other option would be to hire more officers to lessen the need for overtime. Problem with that is each of those officers now pull an annual salary, benefits, pension, etc and they're an ongoing cost.

Which is why it's cheaper to just run less staff and give them overtime. You aren't funding 4 pensions and 4 medical plans that way.

There's no way anyone can work 90 hours a week for an extended period and actually be performing at their best.

Really doesn't seem like a thing a cop should be doing. I did long days for long stretches fire fighting and building mills and by the end of your two weeks you're alloted a minimum 4 days off for a reason.

And even on those jobs it was typically 84 a week with the odd week of like 100 plus.

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darkprince45 posted...

I mean its not gaming then system at all. Its your PAID and BENEFITS time you get. Youre just looking for a reason to whine because its the CE boogeyman

Is basically welfare for hire gun, if people found a way to get extra food stamps you would be mad asf lmao

And BTW its completely legal to do so per US labor laws

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Eramir posted...

Is basically welfare for hire gun

Except you are using paid benefits given to you and then voluntarily working.

and why would I care about anyone getting food stamps? In what world do I care and how is that relevant. Weak posts from an old account with low amp

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darkprince45 posted...

And BTW its completely legal to do so per US labor laws

And?

Its pretty stupid for a cop of all people to be working hours like that. I dont care who you are you get worn out working those kinds hours.

Cops fuck up far more than enough at the best of times.

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CanuckCowboy posted...

And?

Its pretty stupid for a cop of all people to be working hours like that. I dont care who you are you get worn out working those kinds hours.

Cops fuck up far more than enough at the best of times.

You really dont know how he does it or what hes doing. He could he work his regular shift then sign up for an overtime shift thats just sitting down in a building watching cameras for 12 hours, hired by a company. Then takes a week off work after those 90 hours. You have the idea that hes working 90 straight hard hours being in the streets getting into fights and stuff.

it doesnt say hes working 90 hours every week for years. It said once

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Doesnt seem healthy

should be capped per officer

darkprince45 posted...

You really dont know how he does it or what hes doing. He could he work his regular shift then sign up for an overtime shift thats just sitting down in a building watching cameras for 12 hours, hired by a company. Then takes a week off work after those 90 hours. You have the idea that hes working 90 straight hard hours being in the streets getting into fights and stuff

Lol. No I don't.

I'm well aware most of a cops job is boredom. Regardless of whether you're in an office or fighting a fire or what you're doing you can't be close to your best when you're working those kinda hours.

And if he's getting overtime to just sit on his ass doing literally nothing then maybe that police department needs to manage its funds a lot better.

No company would waste money like that. Kinda absurd reading this when you constantly see articles about police saying they desperately need more funding.

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CanuckCowboy posted...

And if he's getting overtime to just sit on his ass doing literally nothing then maybe that police department needs to manage its funds a lot better.

No company would waste money like that. Kinda absurd reading this when you constantly see articles about police saying they desperately need more funding.

If you think so. A lot of companies pay a lot of money for police presence. Ive worked events a lot of events where police presence was needed but the organizers were scared of making it seem dangerous if police are needed there. So for 10 hours we sat in an employee break room and would just come out if they needed us. Theres so much overtime available theres not enough to sign up for

i really think you guys know less and less about police the more its discussed

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darkprince45 posted...

If you think so. A lot of companies pay a lot of money for police presence. Ive worked events a lot of events where police presence was needed but the organizers were scared of making it seem dangerous if police are needed there. So for 10 hours we sat in an employee break room and would just come out if they needed us

i really think you guys know less and less about police the more its discussed

Yeah you keep saying that and making up things about what we think. Which is weird.

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not about what you think but what you post. So far everything youve said is inaccurate

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Eramir posted...

Messed up. Overtime shouldn't stack on vacation time.

What do you care how much other people make?

BanthaBreed posted...

What do you care how much other people make?

Most people aren't being paid by tax revenue


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BanthaBreed posted...

What do you care how much other people make?

I just find it ironic that Republicans usually complain about government overspending, except when it comes to cops that abuse their pay on the people's dime.

Related:
https://www.baltimorebrew.com/2021/07/07/baltimore-ig-police-officers-allowed-to-take-paid-leave-and-overtime-simultaneously/

The Baltimore Police Department allows sworn employees to take paid vacation or personal leave on days when they are simultaneously earning overtime even if the hours overlap.
The well-known and condoned arrangement, confirmed in a report released today by the Baltimores Office of the Inspector General, is spelled out in the agencys collective bargaining agreement with the Fraternal Order of Police (FOP) Lodge 3.
Still, Inspector General Isabel Mercedes Cumming notes in the report, the BPDs policy is troubling considering the long-standing problem of spiraling police overtime.
Although this practice is permitted and does not violate any City policy, it could be perceived as wasteful, Cumming wrote in the Investigative Synopsis.
She points out that BPD exceeded its overtime budget in the last two fiscal years by $12,013.506.
Just how much the redundant payments to officers cost taxpayers, however, is not clear in the report.
Cumming said her office was unable to determine the exact excess due to the BPDs particular practice of double payment for simultaneous paid leave and overtime hours.

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Eramir posted...

I just find it ironic that Republicans usually complain about government overspending, except when it comes to cops that abuse their pay on the people's dime.

Using your paid benefits and signing up for voluntary overtime isnt abusing peoples dime or government spending. What if the overtime is paid by private companies off work hours?

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BanthaBreed posted...

What do you care how much other people make?

Alts should stay quiet if they don't know how cops get paid

darkprince45 posted...

not about what you think but what you post. So far everything youve said is inaccurate

Such as what?

What are you even referring to? I haven't been talking about what cops do and you're prattling on about it like it has anything to do with burnout from working too much, or anything to do with wasting money.


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specialkid8 posted...

police bad

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A can see why as well, lots of things happening in Seattle unfortunately...

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g0ldie posted...

damn, is someone functional working 90 hours a week

I'd be a zombie

As a patrol officer you could do 60-70 easily enough. Its just time

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masticatingman posted...

As a patrol officer you could do 60-70 easily enough. Its just time

90 a week though means that youre doing 10 hours on the weekend while working from wake to sleep Monday-Friday. And thats estimating 7 hours of sleep so you have an hour to commute both ways and eat and stuff.

90 a week is absolute insanity.

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g0ldie posted...

damn, is someone functional working 90 hours a week

I'd be a zombie

I used to do 100hr+ weeks when I was a runner for a post-production company about 20 years or so ago. Some days I'd just stay at work instead of going home as there was no real point (plus I wasn't particularly happy at home at the time). Was on 6 Red Bulls, 4 litres of Dr Pepper, a can of Coke and 2 teas a day. Wasn't by choice most times either - if you were on the late shift, you couldn't finish if anyone was still working in case they needed you. Was 7 days a week, with a week off every 5th week, so it was better than it sounded but still just too much.

I functioned perfectly tbh, just had absolutely no life whatsoever - nor any time to eat - on a good day I'd manage 2 sandwiches. Worst part about it was it was minimum wage so was only getting 3.30 p/h at the time. Managed to last 6 months somehow - only left when they wanted to train me up for another role, which would've been great if it wasn't another 3 hours a day on top of the work and hours I was already doing.

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in a world where the police keep making the news for randomly shooting people, this isn't a good thing. an overworked cop is way more likely to make a stupid mistake.

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I literally don't see a problem with this >_>

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NeonOctopus posted...

I literally don't see a problem with this >_>

Well there's the fact that it seems that Seattle needs to hire more police officers, considering the amount of overtime I'm sure they could have hired two more police officers at $100k minimum and theres also the fact that this officer (or any officer working 90 hours) is more prone to making mistakes due to exhaustion/fatigue, leading to the city losing lawsuits.

Thats a couple of issues, I'm sure there are many more.

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