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saspa
07/10/21 8:34:12 AM
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It's 2012 Loki? As in all the development gained in the last 5 years, gone? I'm so upset right now! I was already almost gonna nope out of Avengers 3 when they killed off Ragnarok Loki, who I absolutely loved and now all those years of character development, gone!
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Relient_K
07/10/21 8:44:24 AM
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Loki is about 1500 years old. He lost 7 years of development. Not really that much in the grand scheme. Besides it all comes together nicely.

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E_S_M_Z
07/10/21 8:46:49 AM
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He learns about what he does in the later movies, and obviously develops all over again.

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Xethuminra
07/10/21 8:55:51 AM
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Original Loki, Mischief God > 3-Dimensional Character Development Loki
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ZevLoveDOOM
07/10/21 8:56:56 AM
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episode 3 and 4 have been my least favorites so far.

some of the dialogue is corny as shit and the action is pretty boring.
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BrownBearKing
07/10/21 9:40:09 AM
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I wanted Loki to be more of an asshole this series.

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saspa
07/10/21 11:32:05 AM
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Oh my god. It's the Enchantress!

What a bait and switch. I was wondering when they'd have her. She wasn't in Ragnarok and I thought Hela was doubling as both her and the goddess of death, but I guess she's like a mixture of a fake female Loki and the actual Enchantress?
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--Zero-
07/10/21 11:34:03 AM
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Show is the best Marvel show so far. Wandavison was close if it wasnt for the boring first half.

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Shezarr
07/10/21 11:35:12 AM
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Did you skip Endgame or

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saspa
07/11/21 3:58:20 PM
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Anyone notice this bein' a trend, like they decided to kill off Gommorah but then brought her back pre Guardians of the Galaxy development. They did it in the Agents of Shield show with Coulson as well, does anyone actually like this idea of bringing back the actor but with none of the character development?
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gatorsPENSbucs
07/11/21 4:04:21 PM
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BrownBearKing posted...
I wanted Loki to be more of an asshole this series.
Thank you, me too. Im still kinda getting used to it and not sure what to think.

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Lokison
07/11/21 4:06:55 PM
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saspa posted...
Anyone notice this bein' a trend, like they decided to kill off Gommorah but then brought her back pre Guardians of the Galaxy development. They did it in the Agents of Shield show with Coulson as well, does anyone actually like this idea of bringing back the actor but with none of the character development?
It allows you to explore different aspect of the characters.

Gammora is supposed to be the most lethal woman in the galaxy and is often turned into a damsel in distress. This allows us to possibly get the badass Gammora we deserve.

Loki got to see exactly how things were supposed to play out and essentially got a crash course on his development, but we still get our god of mischief, not just Thors Brother: The jerk.

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Sir Will
07/11/21 4:15:29 PM
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Relient_K posted...
Loki is about 1500 years old. He lost 7 years of development. Not really that much in the grand scheme. Besides it all comes together nicely.
I mean, it is pretty significant. That said, this Loki quickly gets lots of development, yeah.

saspa posted...
Oh my god. It's the Enchantress!

What a bait and switch. I was wondering when they'd have her. She wasn't in Ragnarok and I thought Hela was doubling as both her and the goddess of death, but I guess she's like a mixture of a fake female Loki and the actual Enchantress?
Eh, she's not quite. She uses that name but she IS a Loki.

saspa posted...
Anyone notice this bein' a trend, like they decided to kill off Gommorah but then brought her back pre Guardians of the Galaxy development. They did it in the Agents of Shield show with Coulson as well, does anyone actually like this idea of bringing back the actor but with none of the character development?
Not a big fan. I'm kinda ok with this Loki cause they're doing their own thing with it and such. It's working out fine. Her, we'll have to see. Years of a relationship gone. What are they actually going to do when they find her?

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catboy
07/11/21 4:17:23 PM
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That actually sounds cool. Time to figure out if I have HBO Max with my Xfinity account.

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SuperShake666
07/11/21 4:18:18 PM
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One could argue that this Loki is getting more development than our original Loki.

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Lokison
07/11/21 4:20:00 PM
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catboy posted...
That actually sounds cool. Time to figure out if I have HBO Max with my Xfinity account.
It's on D+, not HBO

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Allanon23
07/11/21 4:26:53 PM
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saspa posted...
It's 2012 Loki? As in all the development gained in the last 5 years, gone? I'm so upset right now! I was already almost gonna nope out of Avengers 3 when

I was also worried about this, but the development he gets in the first episodes more than makes up for it.

Him being able to see the major MCU events involving him in the TVA in a way gives him the development he had. He saw his mother die, he saw his father die and his last words saying how much he loved him, his son. He saw his death, where he identified himself as Odinson, taking back the heritage he threw away out of anger and hurt.

He isn't our Loki, but in a way he becomes him and much more throughout the first 5 episodes. He has had more character development than he had in all of the previous MCU movies, which makes sense since he's been the focus instead of a side character.

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Derwood
07/11/21 4:51:27 PM
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--Zero- posted...
Show is the best Marvel show so far. Wandavison was close if it wasnt for the boring first half.

The second half Agatha nonsense ruined the show. The first half was brilliant
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Sir Will
07/11/21 5:20:10 PM
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Derwood posted...
The second half Agatha nonsense ruined the show. The first half was brilliant
I loved it all! I still think I place it first overall, just ahead of Loki. But they've all been great.

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Sir Will
07/11/21 5:20:24 PM
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Allanon23 posted...
I was also worried about this, but the development he gets in the first episodes more than makes up for it.

Him being able to see the major MCU events involving him in the TVA in a way gives him the development he had. He saw his mother die, he saw his father die and his last words saying how much he loved him, his son. He saw his death, where he identified himself as Odinson, taking back the heritage he threw away out of anger and hurt.

He isn't our Loki, but in a way he becomes him and much more throughout the first 5 episodes. He has had more character development than he had in all of the previous MCU movies, which makes sense since he's been the focus instead of a side character.
Absolutely.

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saspa
07/13/21 1:15:24 PM
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I forgot to add, they did it more than once in Agents of Shield, the real annoying one was Fitz, a fan favorite.

Sir Will posted...

I mean, it is pretty significant. That said, this Loki quickly gets lots of development, yeah.

Eh, she's not quite. She uses that name but she IS a Loki.

Not a big fan. I'm kinda ok with this Loki cause they're doing their own thing with it and such. It's working out fine. Her, we'll have to see. Years of a relationship gone. What are they actually going to do when they find her?

To be fair yeah I'm liking the show as its own thing, just like with wandavision and even the netflix shows that came before them.
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gna647
07/13/21 1:20:55 PM
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MrToothHasYou
07/13/21 1:34:49 PM
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Its sort of entertaining but like the rest of the shows (and lets be honest the movies) the entertainment value relies pretty heavily on the audience not putting too much thought into what they are watching.

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SevenTenths
07/13/21 1:40:32 PM
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--Zero- posted...
Wandavison was close if it wasnt for the boring first half.

Way to let people know you have terrible taste

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RchHomieQuanChi
07/13/21 1:43:21 PM
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saspa posted...
It's 2012 Loki? As in all the development gained in the last 5 years, gone? I'm so upset right now! I was already almost gonna nope out of Avengers 3 when they killed off Ragnarok Loki, who I absolutely loved and now all those years of character development, gone!

He doesn't really lose that development so much as he fast forwards through it.

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Rharyx211
07/14/21 1:45:28 PM
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Xethuminra posted...
Original Loki, Mischief God > 3-Dimensional Character Development Loki
This but unironically. Loki in the show is basically just Tom Hiddleston wearing a wig after a certain point.

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MrToothHasYou
07/15/21 7:52:25 PM
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saspa posted...
I forgot to add, they did it more than once in Agents of Shield, the real annoying one was Fitz, a fan favorite.
Sort of the opposite with Fitz, because there were already two of him due to the time travel shenanigans, so they had to kill off one at some point.

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saspa
07/17/21 3:29:18 AM
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MrToothHasYou posted...

Sort of the opposite with Fitz, because there were already two of him due to the time travel shenanigans, so they had to kill off one at some point.

Since he was in stasis, wouldn't it not matter because he'd only wake up after they went back to the past/future/etc? Like when yo-yo met her no arms self.
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MrToothHasYou
07/17/21 2:09:03 PM
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saspa posted...
Since he was in stasis, wouldn't it not matter because he'd only wake up after they went back to the past/future/etc? Like when yo-yo met her no arms self.
Since they broke the loop, he would have just woken up in a different future where everyone he knew was already dead. A pretty grim outcome to imply, imo.

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saspa
07/19/21 1:47:13 AM
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MrToothHasYou posted...

Since they broke the loop, he would have just woken up in a different future where everyone he knew was already dead. A pretty grim outcome to imply, imo.

Ah ok that's definitely a different set of rules than the ones in Avengers, I can see why people say that pretty much cements its non-canon status
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saspa
07/21/21 5:26:09 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
Original Loki, Mischief God > 3-Dimensional Character Development Loki

What is mischief god?
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Xethuminra
07/21/21 5:26:48 AM
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saspa posted...
What is mischief god?
Loki is
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