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armandro
07/09/21 1:48:26 PM
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like it couldnt have been that greek guy
he probably made it popular but like who is the original

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MedeaLysistrata
07/09/21 1:49:00 PM
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Augustine

But Descartes was the first person to say it like that

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SrRd_RacinG
07/09/21 1:49:09 PM
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GhettoFlip
07/09/21 1:49:15 PM
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Billie Eilish

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coolcono
07/09/21 1:49:51 PM
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Vegy.

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tripleh213
07/09/21 1:51:21 PM
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I have no mouth and I must scream.

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nfearurspecimn
07/09/21 1:51:43 PM
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a computer AI

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armandro
07/09/21 1:54:01 PM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
a computer AI
what came first
machine or flesh?

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Funkydog
07/09/21 1:57:47 PM
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That saying is attributed to Descartes (in Latin/French though) but I would imagine variants have been said long before him.

A quick glance seems to suggest Plato is the first to make a statement on the overall meaning, if worded differently.

"But if life itself is good and pleasant and if one who sees is conscious that he sees, one who hears that he hears, one who walks that he walks and similarly for all the other human activities there is a faculty that is conscious of their exercise, so that whenever we perceive, we are conscious that we perceive, and whenever we think, we are conscious that we think, and to be conscious that we are perceiving or thinking is to be conscious that we exist"

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armandro
07/09/21 1:58:25 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Augustine

But Descartes was the first person to say it like that
I am most certain that I am and that I know and delight in this. In respect of these truths, I am not at all afraid of the arguments of the Academicians [i.e., skeptic philosophers], who say, What if you are deceived? For if I am deceived, I am. For he who is not, cannot be deceived; and if I am deceived, by this same token, I am. And since I am if I am deceived, how am I deceived in believing that I am? for it is certain that I am if I am deceived. Since, therefore, I, the person deceived, should be, even if I were deceived, certainly I am not deceived in this knowledge that I am.

damn thats confusing
I think therefore i am is easier

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nfearurspecimn
07/09/21 1:58:36 PM
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armandro posted...
what came first
machine or flesh?
what's a virus? that's what I thought

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armandro
07/09/21 1:59:01 PM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
what's a virus? that's what I thought
the good infection

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armandro
07/09/21 3:43:40 PM
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ShyOx
07/09/21 3:46:40 PM
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Came in to say specificaly Descartes but it goes back farther than that as an idea

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armandro
07/09/21 3:49:14 PM
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Cpt_Pineapple posted...
Marilyn Monroe
if you can't handle me at my worse then you don't deserve me at my best - cegal

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Pandamonic
07/09/21 4:02:53 PM
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Sun Tizzoo

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Guide
07/09/21 4:03:49 PM
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p sure the Wu Tang Clan did it first

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DeadBankerDream
07/09/21 4:05:54 PM
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Herman Cain or the Pokemon Movie.

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EmbraceOfDeath
07/09/21 4:09:17 PM
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armandro posted...
I am most certain that I am and that I know and delight in this. In respect of these truths, I am not at all afraid of the arguments of the Academicians [i.e., skeptic philosophers], who say, What if you are deceived? For if I am deceived, I am. For he who is not, cannot be deceived; and if I am deceived, by this same token, I am. And since I am if I am deceived, how am I deceived in believing that I am? for it is certain that I am if I am deceived. Since, therefore, I, the person deceived, should be, even if I were deceived, certainly I am not deceived in this knowledge that I am.

damn thats confusing
I think therefore i am is easier
True. This is a proof by contradiction though, whereas Descartes was trying to make the simplest possible logical principle to build from.

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Criminalt
07/09/21 4:32:36 PM
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armandro posted...
I am most certain that I am and that I know and delight in this. In respect of these truths, I am not at all afraid of the arguments of the Academicians [i.e., skeptic philosophers], who say, What if you are deceived? For if I am deceived, I am. For he who is not, cannot be deceived; and if I am deceived, by this same token, I am. And since I am if I am deceived, how am I deceived in believing that I am? for it is certain that I am if I am deceived. Since, therefore, I, the person deceived, should be, even if I were deceived, certainly I am not deceived in this knowledge that I am.
I think we've all had arguments just like this when we're drunk.

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armandro
07/09/21 4:33:45 PM
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Criminalt posted...
I think we've all had arguments just like this when we're drunk.
damn was saint augustine drunk on the holy spirit?

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DrizztLink
07/09/21 4:34:38 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok
07/09/21 4:35:00 PM
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Goku

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Criminalt
07/09/21 4:36:30 PM
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armandro posted...
damn was saint augustine drunk on the holy spirit?
Possibly the methylated spirit.

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Ruvan22
07/09/21 4:59:45 PM
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dolomedes posted...
i think i came up with it. i also came up with 'i think therefore i did'

I feel there's a connection between this, your recent arboreal experiences, and your niece's anatomical illustrations
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