Current Events > Why do people want to kill child molesters?

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sabrestorm posted...

you are not allowed but you wont be charged with anything

You would definitely be charged. Convicted on the other hand....

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Conflict posted...

I'm pretty sure TC is skermac

He is. If you google their usernames it brings up threads on game boards with sabrestorm responding to people responding to skermac.

So lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Makes this creepy topic even creepier.

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2013 account with 145 karma

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Anyone who harms a child in such a way deserves only the most severe punishment.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

2013 account with 145 karma

It's skermac's alt.

skermac being the user who had a giant meltdown about how much he hates TCAP, and asked "how can you blame them" about "lonely old men" who are seeking out children online.

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Anyone remember Dead Guy Hubbin? Man was he a pedo apologist.

Felt sad for the guy.

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RetsuZaiZen posted...

Anyone remember Dead Guy Hubbin? Man was he a pedo apologist.

Felt sad for the guy.

Fuck him. He knew how people feel and would just creepily flaunt his desires with impunity just to get a reaction from people. Dude wanted to bang the kid from Wreck it Ralph IIRC, which was "ok" since she isn't real, what the actual fuck

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PoundGarden posted...

1. Because most people have kids and are extremely passionate about protecting them.

2. Because you cannot cure it. Pedophilia is a sexual orientation of sorts, in that they cannot help what they are attracted to any more than a gay person cannot force themselves to be attracted to females
(Note to da mods: this post in NO way condones pedophilia nor am I saying LGBT people are on the same level, nor am I suggesting LGBT can or should be "cured")

I do support trying to rehabilitate/change pedophiles that haven't offended yet and want to receive treatment. On some level I do empathize with them, that must be fucking horrible to know what you are, that it's wrong, and not having anyone to reach out to to try and fix it.

Sexual orientation or not, you don't rape and molest people. It's one thing to feel a certain way, and another to act on it.

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sabrestorm posted...

no im genuinely curious, I would not want to harm anyone that didnt harm my kids, other kids i let the court system punish the offenders, after hearing my neighbors story I got to wondering why her husband was attacked, the attackers had no reason it wasnt their family member who was molested they shouldve let the government punishment be it now they have to spend lifebin prison for acting macho over something that wasnt their business

this is stupid

you can understand why someone would want to do something even if you personally wouldn't want to

if you can't, see a doctor

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RetsuZaiZen posted...

You would definitely be charged. Convicted on the other hand....

If someone breaks into my house and is molesting my baby and I kill him I won't be charged.

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RenescoStCewl posted...

If someone breaks into my house and is molesting my baby and I kill him I won't be charged.

You think the cops are just going to look the other way? That the judge will just throw out the case?

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The most important thing is that they're never able to offend again. Either death, or life in prison, achieves that.

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PoundGarden posted...

1. Because most people have kids and are extremely passionate about protecting them.

2. Because you cannot cure it. Pedophilia is a sexual orientation of sorts, in that they cannot help what they are attracted to any more than a gay person cannot force themselves to be attracted to females
(Note to da mods: this post in NO way condones pedophilia nor am I saying LGBT people are on the same level, nor am I suggesting LGBT can or should be "cured")

I do support trying to rehabilitate/change pedophiles that haven't offended yet and want to receive treatment. On some level I do empathize with them, that must be fucking horrible to know what you are, that it's wrong, and not having anyone to reach out to to try and fix it.

this is the way


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And this is why none of you are prosecutors, because if any of you were we would just have a bunch of dead kids.

Life in prison or the death penalty isn't a punishment for child molestation by design. The reason being if someone molests a child and is caught and they will be put to death, then they have no reason to keep that child alive and risk being caught. It is done for the specific purpose of saving children and not backing the molester into a corner where the penalty for molesting the kid is the same as for killing the kid so they might as well kill the kid so they can't tell anyone.

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LeoRavus posted...

Sexual orientation or not, you don't rape and molest people. It's one thing to feel a certain way, and another to act on it.

Well obviously, the point I was making was I don't believe anyone chooses to be a pedophile, any more than someone chooses to be gay, straight etc.

Gamerguymass posted...

And this is why none of you are prosecutors, because if any of you were we would just have a bunch of dead kids.

Life in prison or the death penalty isn't a punishment for child molestation by design. The reason being if someone molests a child and is caught and they will be put to death, then they have no reason to keep that child alive and risk being caught. It is done for the specific purpose of saving children and not backing the molester into a corner where the penalty for molesting the kid is the same as for killing the kid so they might as well kill the kid so they can't tell anyone.

You're not wrong, but isn't it a double edged sword? Meaning most people who molest children really don't do much time at all. So with these softball sentences of 6-24 months, doesn't it stand to reason they would see that as a "fair trade"? Doesn't that remove any incentive to not reoffend when they know they can be out in as little as a few months with good behavior? But to your point, even if we implemented stricter sentences like a 5 or 10 year minimum, wouldn't that also incentivize them to kill the child and hide their crime?

Idk that there really is a good solution.

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PoundGarden posted...

Well obviously, the point I was making was I don't believe anyone chooses to be a pedophile, any more than someone chooses to be gay, straight etc.

You're not wrong, but isn't it a double edged sword? Meaning most people who molest children really don't do much time at all. So with these softball sentences of 6-24 months, doesn't it stand to reason they would see that as a "fair trade"? Doesn't that remove any incentive to not reoffend when they know they can be out in as little as a few months with good behavior? But to your point, even if we implemented stricter sentences like a 5 or 10 year minimum, wouldn't that also incentivize them to kill the child and hide their crime?

Idk that there really is a good solution.

No because raping and killing the child IS usually a life sentence. "Just" rape depends on the age and the circumstances. There are a ton of factors that go into charges and sentencing. Contrary to the opinions of people on CE, there is a difference between teenagers and prepubescent children. You will get less time if you rape a teenager vs a ten year old. And less for a ten year old vs a five year old. You would also get less for a 17 year old vs a 12/13 year old depending what the cut off for that state is.

They also take consent into account. Even though no 15 year old is allowed to legally consent to sex in any US state with someone older then 19/20, depending on Romeo & Juliet cutoff, that doesn't mean it was against the 15 year olds will. That will be take into consideration. Also your age as well. If you are 30 having sex with a 15 year old you will probably be getting more time then a 20 year old.

Which state, and how big an asshole the judge is are also factors. There have been 18 year old high school students who have gone to prison for years for having sex with their 16/17 year old girlfriends because the judge is an asshole with no common sense. Also each state defines different acts as different things. My state considers oral sex to be rape, same as penetration. Other states only consider penetration to be rape and other things to be lesser charges like sexual assault. Abuse is also take into account. Obviously raping someone is considered abuse and is traumatic, but if you tie someone up and/or beat the shit out of them while raping them then you will get more time.

So it isn't as simple as oh they will be out in a few months. Rarely does that happen. When it does there are other factors at play or its just because the judge is a moron. Death was take off the table because there were a bunch of dead children. It's not like they just decided to do that out of the goodness of their hearts. If someone knows they are going to die if caught then they have nothing to lose and no incentive to keep anyone alive which could lead to them getting caught.

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Gamerguymass posted...

Also each state defines different acts as different things. My state considers oral sex to be rape, same as penetration. Other states only consider penetration to be rape and other things to be lesser charges like sexual assault.

"bad touch" is already over the moral event horizon.

Has skermac posted in this one yet?

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here I gooo! down the slope! oh, I'm going "zip-zop, zoobity-bop!"

child molestation is so common in human history that "civilized" societies have to mutually agree to NOT do it, and not everybody even wants to agree to that. many of them are lawmakers.

we talk about child molestation like it's such a heinous act, and I agree that it is. but if so many people are on board with denouncing it, why is trafficking still such a money maker? there is a demand out there and it predates your oldest living relative. Hell, that oldest living relative might have first hand experience.

so it makes me wonder... if age of consent decreased by like 7 years, how many people would default to the "it's my Right" argument when asked why they're dating a 12 year old?

right and wrong are not synonymous with legal and illegal, so I feel like only the morally reprehensible and/or those avoiding personal accountability even use legality as a defense.

I'm just skeptical when it comes to people. people pretend to believe in things they don't really care about, and they treat it differently depending on how it benefits their image and narrative.
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Why do people want to kill child molesters?

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It's only natural. Those who commit evil should pay for their crimes. It's only the current society that's pushed current victim mentality that favors criminals.

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Yikes, that'll be a tag for Ricky

@Kakapo

Has skermac posted in this one yet?

TC is skermac

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you likely didn't even understand what you read, so I'm sure I'll treat you like a dummy later lol.
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"It's a heinous act, but" is not a sentence that should ever be uttered about child rapists

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@RickyTheBAWSE
Oof. Thats a bad read, Ricky. Might wanna tweak that post.

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DJquackquack posted...

@RickyTheBAWSE
Oof. Thats a bad read, Ricky. Might wanna tweak that post.

Nobody's block-quoted the whole thing yet, so an empty stripe is still an option.

Shezarr posted...

It's skermac's alt.

skermac being the user who had a giant meltdown about how much he hates TCAP, and asked "how can you blame them" about "lonely old men" who are seeking out children online.

What's TCAP?

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sabrestorm posted...

the ones that deserve death deserve it legally not by thugs, thats murder

I'm not saying I condone someone going out and murdering child molesters.

I am saying that they deserve death.

Take that as you will.
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UltraDeku posted...

What's TCAP?

To Catch a Predator. He was melting down about how it was unfair to "lonely old men" to lure them like that, and he specifically mentioned two pedos from the show he felt sorry for, one of whom was trying to rape an 8 year old

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Conflict posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

you likely didn't even understand what you read, so I'm sure I'll treat you like a dummy later lol.

I get that your point was that it's deeply rooted in history, and many humans are screwed up, but like... the way you're wording it is pretty horrendous and comes off in a way that you don't want. So I'm not entirely sure that post was even a good idea to submit at all.

Like, where exactly are you hoping to go with that post? What productive discourse are you hoping to arrive to?

I framed the context of what I meant just fine. I'm not going to reword anything, but I'll gladly clarify if somebody is genuinely confused.

my point is that child molestation is horrible enough to where we can persecute those guilty of it. but if a nation were sincere about the outrage, why are so many of these people empowered on various levels? I am questioning the sincerity of "civilized" society where people wear t-shirts saying "my Rights don't end where your feelings begin" or some shit like that. but slavery was legal, so is legality an indicator of morality? I don't believe so.

if this nation were serious about standing against this sort of thing, I don't believe it would be as common. I believe that if consent were lowered, we'd see a large amount of people "exercising their Rights," and hiding behind that. I don't believe people are as "moral," as they say and mostly just care about not having a terrible image.

I'm skeptical of people's morality.
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Conflict posted...

I think that was a much better way of wording it

and your thoughts of the content of that post?

I don't know if it's just a phase, but I'm at a point where I need to be shown in order to believe in people. people say whatever they like then switch up when there's an opportunity to be different. I also learned that people attack heavily in order to throw people off their own scents. we see it in politics all the time.
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UltraDeku posted...

What's TCAP?

I have no alts thank you

sabrestorm posted...

I have no alts thank you

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/691087-playstation-4/67207563?page=2

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that you're responding to people responding to skermac lol. So full of shit.

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sabrestorm posted...

I have no alts thank you

That wasn't the question.

Shezarr posted...

To Catch a Predator. He was melting down about how it was unfair to "lonely old men" to lure them like that, and he specifically mentioned two pedos from the show he felt sorry for, one of whom was trying to rape an 8 year old

Thank you.

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UltraDeku posted...

That wasn't the question.

Thank you.

who was? It sure wasnt me, ive only seen a couple of episodes of tcap

PoundGarden posted...

Well obviously, the point I was making was I don't believe anyone chooses to be a pedophile, any more than someone chooses to be gay, straight etc.

You're not wrong, but isn't it a double edged sword? Meaning most people who molest children really don't do much time at all. So with these softball sentences of 6-24 months, doesn't it stand to reason they would see that as a "fair trade"? Doesn't that remove any incentive to not reoffend when they know they can be out in as little as a few months with good behavior? But to your point, even if we implemented stricter sentences like a 5 or 10 year minimum, wouldn't that also incentivize them to kill the child and hide their crime?

Idk that there really is a good solution.

Reoffenders get much harsher sentences than first timers. They're typically forbidden from having contact with Children anyway so for them to reoffend requires going through some pretty extreme and deliberate methods to seek out children. Pedophiles who haven't been caught yet can generally still be around children without much suspicion.

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as a victim myself, i would gladly slit the throat of one

Child molesters dont deserve to live. They threw that right away. The only reason we shouldnt execute them is the possibility of a false conviction.

and what type of dumbass thread is this in the first place

Because people don't want their children being molested, and one less child molester in the world brings them closer to that reality.

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https://youtube.com/c/SoftWhiteUnderbelly

Pick any video on that channel. There's a 90% chance the person being interviewed was a victim of molestation or some form of abuse during childhood. People who'd scar a child mentally in such a way don't deserve any mercy.

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VioletMassacre posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

I framed the context of what I meant just fine.

I understood the first time and I agree with you, there are few who would 100% stand behind their opinons at all times.

often times people's morality is conditional. I appreciate that you read my post and was able to understand my point, though. sometimes I forget that CE was the sole motivation behind my sig.
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sabrestorm posted...

Just found out my neighbor husband was in prison for molesting their daughter, other prisoners beat him to death, the wife hated him but she didnt want him dead

I don't see how this is any other than the RIGHT outcome.
Pedophiles are a risk to children. The best thing we can do is remove them. There is no cure.
I hate them SO much and they deserve death. One ruined my fucking childhood.

Now watch me get put on Warned for hating child molesters while you guys keep making women hating incel topics.

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toyota posted...

and what type of dumbass thread is this in the first place

A pro child molestation one, to my mind.

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sabrestorm posted...

the ones that deserve death deserve it legally not by thugs, thats murder

why does it matter

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