Current Events > Does the far left support the CCP?

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I'm not entirely certain that calling everyone who disagrees with you a fascist is quite the way to go about things.

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UnholyMudcrab posted...

I'm not entirely certain that calling everyone who disagrees with you a fascist is quite the way to go about things.

It's a typical tankie thing. Anyone who isn't a communist is really just a fascist in disguise, no matter how otherwise progressive or leftist you are.

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Shablagoo posted...

If all youre going to do is forever screech about my skin color (Im Irish btw, consider reading up on our history) Im not gonna bother engaging with you anymore.

And fuck off with that bullshit. It is the anti-China people like yourself who continually monolithize Chinese people. I give an unbiased, Western source (Harvard) saying most of Chinas citizens are satisfied with the CPC, meanwhile anti-communists (read: fascists) drone endlessly about their belief that everyone in the country is brainwashed and has no agency.

Shut the fuck up, kid.

Man I hate white people playing victim more than anything else about the West. I have some Irish blood in the melting pot that is my ancestory, but I'm not about to play such a game with you when you know damn well you have white privilege.

I am not the one who thinks criticizing the Chinese government is racist against Chinese people, because A. China has many races of people and B. I and anyone else who isn't an infantalizing racist knows Chinese people hold a variety of opinions. You want me to insisit you support Trump because of your skin color and anyone who criticizes Trump is racist against you? Stop speaking about shit you know nothing about like some kind of expert. This is why people get sick of privileged white people like you. Because you go on about a country you haven't been to where they use a language you don't speak like some kind of expert and then insist they all have your opinion in the face of actual Chinese people. Being white doesn't make you an expert on other races. Get over yourself.

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You arent progressive nor leftist, you are an imperialist dabbling in political theory as a hobby, purely for sport. This is why you will never see eye-to-eye with those who have seen positive material change from the application of communism. You are too comfortable to actually care.

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Shablagoo posted...

you are an imperialist

He says, with a straight face.

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Shablagoo posted...

You arent progressive nor leftist, you are an imperialist dabbling in political theory as a hobby, purely for sport. This is why you will never see eye-to-eye with those who have seen positive material change from the application of communism. You are too comfortable to actually care.

Literally support the Japanese Communist Party. You support an actual imperialist party and you don't know shit about positive material change from the application of communism because again, you are literally a white guy giving living in America who pretends to be an expert on China despite never having been there or speaking the language. You are the very definition of a privileged white guy talking over minorities.

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A very uninformed and radicalized (in favor of the empire) one at that, I might add.

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LMAOOOOOOOOOOo

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"You said I have white privilege so you're a racist!"

How many MAGA hats do you own?

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yeah so privileged when I have about 50 cannabis possession arrests on my record, I have HIV/AIDS, had the entirety of my foreheads skin ground off on the pavement by police for filming one of their arrests, went to schools with 95% black population growing up, am having a child with a woman who was repeatedly discriminated against for her skin color even to the point of abject violence

yes i am the epitome of white privilege and you the guy who constantly spouts the most ignorant sort of shit ever definitely knows my life a lot better than I do and is definitely not being racist by repeatedly referring to my skin color in a lazy and pathetic attempt to denigrate me every fucking chance he gets

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Lmao apparently Shablagoo was melting down about me a couple weeks ago on the subreddit because I mentioned the propaganda video he posted of Uyghurs supposedly being grateful for their "reeducation":

Disgraced and Banned moronic piece of shit RebelElite791 throwing shade at me about Uyghurs again. Apparently the 5-8 anonymous Uyghurs who testified to Adrian God sent me to defeat China Zenz are sacrosanct, but the hundreds of Uyghurs in the videos I linked are all state-controlled drones.

So damn rustled all the time.

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Shablagoo posted...

yeah so privileged when I have about 50 cannabis possession arrests on my record, I have HIV/AIDS, had the entirety of my foreheads skin ground off on the pavement by police for filming one of their arrests, went to schools with 95% black population growing up, am having a child with a woman who was repeatedly discriminated against for her skin color even to the point of abject violence

yes i am the epitome of white privilege and you the guy who constantly spouts the most ignorant sort of shit ever definitely knows my life a lot better than I do and is definitely not being racist by repeatedly referring to my skin color in a lazy and pathetic attempt to denigrate me every fucking chance he gets

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Shezarr posted...

Disgraced and Banned moronic piece of s*** RebelElite791

Can I sig this?

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"I have black friends."

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Shablagoo posted...

Can I sig this?

You want to sig your own words? Pretty lame bro. And no.

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listen man, you may actually be familiar with china, but shab here is a regular on 10 different tankie subreddits, so who's really informed here

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And it's no coincidence that Shablagoo is so buddy-buddy with people like ModLogic

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ssjevot posted...

"I have black friends."

Yes because thats all I said, right? And, whats your argument? That I have white skin? Lmfao, so what? You have a problem with my skin color?

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key word in the sig being formerly.

Still to this day makes me chuckle, hehe

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How to be an expert on China and Chinese people:

Be a white guy in America who hasn't been to China and doesn't know Chinese.

Have black friends (this is important, because no one who has black friends can be racist, just like former great leader and China expert Donald Trump and his famous black friend Herman Cain).

Congrats you are an expert on China now! Remember anyone who disagrees with you no matter their race is racist, after all who knows more about racism (and any other form of bigotry) than a white man?

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ssjevot posted...

Have black friends (this is important, because no one who has black friends can be racist, just like former great leader and China expert Donald Trump and his famous black friend Herman Cain).

Herman Cain is an especially powerful black friend to have, as he is capable of tweeting from the grave about how big of a nothingburger COVID is after dying of COVID himself.

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A white man who grew up amidst black people in what has frequently been called the most racist city in America due to its segregation (we had marches and movements about it).

You bring up my skin color in nearly every post as some sort of attack against me and yet you are trying to spin that as me somehow being racist, wtf lol. This is classic anti-communist nonsense rhetoric that anyone with a working mind can see through.

Like, if you wanna just be an imperialist and support the empires actions with all your heart just stop trying to couch it in these mealy-mouthed words and own up to your desire to subjugate the working class of the world.

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Im the only one with a working mind! Youre all sheep! Is always a good sign

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Shezarr posted...

Im the only one with a working mind! Youre all sheep! Is always a good sign

I recommend responding to the things that I said rather than inventing some strawman.

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i grew up in a similar spot

but im still not a commie tho, im a capitalist, who believes we have technology now that can automate lots of labor and produce unlimited food thereby justifying UBI a la:

https://moores.samaltman.com/

just because you grew up lacking privilege doesnt mean you have to become a communist

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pure_temper posted...

we have technology now that can automate lots of labor and produce unlimited food

I read that currently we produce enough food worldwide to feed ~11 billion people. Its a logistics/priority problem already, not a scarcity one.

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I'm not gonna be able to take anyone seriously who supports the annexation of Taiwan and the means through which China has seized control of Hong Kong.

Other countries do fucked up shit like that too, sure. Those countries should also not be let off the hook. But let's not bust our own balls over whether China is a dictatorship or not, because with the way they restrict information, jail political dissidents and operate clandestine concentration camps, they absolutely fucking are.

Here's a question for you shab: do you recognize Taiwan as a sovereign nation?

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Shablagoo posted...

You bring up my skin color in nearly every post as some sort of attack against me and yet you are trying to spin that as me somehow being racist, wtf lol. This is classic anti-communist nonsense rhetoric that anyone with a working mind can see through.

Calling you whitey is anti-communist?

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MrMallard posted...

the means through which China has seized control of Hong Kong.

Do you know how and why Hong Kong came to be considered separate from China in the first place?

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MrMallard posted...

Here's a question for you shab: do you recognize Taiwan as a sovereign nation?

Notice how he ignored this question

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pure_temper posted...

i grew up in a similar spot

but im still not a commie tho, im a capitalist, who believes we have technology now that can automate lots of labor and produce unlimited food thereby justifying UBI a la:

https://moores.samaltman.com/

just because you grew up lacking privilege doesnt mean you have to become a communist

Shab isn't a communist and doesn't support socialism or communism. He is an authoritarian capitalist. He opposes worker control of the means of production (or even basic labor organization rights) and supports rule by an elite capitalist class of millionaires and billionaires.

If you want to see what an actual communist party is like look up the Japanese Communist Party. There are also various other non-authoritarian leftist movements like the Zapatistas in Mexico.

But yes, social democracy is preferable to authoritarian capitalism like Shab advocates for by a long shot.

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Also Shab ignores the issue is that he is a white guy pretending to be an expert on a people he knows nothing about and instead trying to claim white oppression (but he isn't a Trumper, he is a leftist guys, for real!).

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Its honestly pretty surprising that a 9,000 karma alt is saying this kinda shit lmao, like bruh chill, thats a lot of karma to play around with.

ssjevot posted...

He is an authoritarian capitalist. He opposes worker control of the means of production (or even basic labor organization rights) and supports rule by an elite capitalist class of millionaires and billionaires.

From where (whence?) did you draw these conclusions?


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ssjevot posted...

he is a white guy

Should I be worried youre going to track me down and flay me or something? Like seriously you keep bringing up my skin, its bizarre and frankly worrying at this point.

pretending to be an expert on a people he knows nothing about and instead trying to claim white oppression

So I should trust you over people who live in the country we are talking about, and moreover analysts who have specifically studied China as part of their area of expertise? Whove worked their whole lives to gain said expertise? Why?

Ridiculous.


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Half my family lives in China, I have been there many times, I know the language. Which one of those applies to China expert Shab?

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ssjevot posted...

Half my family lives in China, I have been there many times, I know the language. Which one of those applies to China expert Shab?

You dont get it, hes seen videos the CCP themselves put out! What better authority is there?

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Shezarr posted...

You dont get it, hes seen videos the CCP themselves put out! What better authority is there?

He earlier claimed my CCP member wife's cousin is the reason I allegedly hate communism (even though I support the Japanese Communist Party, weird how that works). He is stuck between his hatred of landlords and the reality that most landlords (and anyone else who is wealthy) in China are CCP members.

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I mean honestly Im just legitimately worried at night that WW3 could break out any time over the stupidest shit ever in an age where we have free access to almost all information and technology that is becoming more and more alien and awesome by the year.

We could end up losing all of that because of a global war over the stupidest shit ever.

Keeps me up at night.

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Conflict posted...

You know Shab, you don't have to immediately run to the subreddit posting immature shit every time you get criticized in debate. You're not 14 years old.

Holy shit. This guy takes white fragility to new levels.

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Conflict posted...

You know Shab, you don't have to immediately run to the subreddit posting immature shit every time you get criticized in debate. You're not 14 years old.

but hang on! i thought he said that wasn't his account? could it be that he is in fact a weasely liar that hangs around people like tails and people who defend swastika usage?

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How does a thinking man consider endlessly vomiting out my skin color and criticism to be the same thing?

Like, seriously asking, Conflict. I feel that you are better than this.

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Theres a timeline where we all end up in one of those camps and we just have this conv in the camp instead of on Gamefaqs.



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pure_temper posted...

I mean honestly Im just legitimately worried at night that WW3 could break out any time over the stupidest shit ever in an age where we have free access to almost all information and technology that is becoming more and more alien and awesome by the year.

We could end up losing all of that because of a global war over the stupidest shit ever.

Keeps me up at night.

Sure, we bet.

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ooger posted...

Sure, we bet.

Ive seen TC peddle a lot of bullshit but I like to believe he has an open and big heart and is just kind of questioning things.

I could be wrong, but it is the impression that I have gotten from him.

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Conflict posted...

You know Shab, you don't have to immediately run to the subreddit posting immature shit every time you get criticized in debate. You're not 14 years old.

LMAO

And he's so obsessed with me he makes it around me, even though I'm not even the one mentioning his skin color, ssj is. Talk about creepy. And of course he upvotes his buddy ModLogic. "They're all just racist! So I'll run to the arms of my friend with the swastika avatar!"

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Shezarr posted...

LMAO

And he's so obsessed with me he makes it around me, even though I'm not even the one mentioning his skin color, ssj is. Talk about creepy. And of course he upvotes his buddy ModLogic. "They're all just racist! So I'll run to the arms of my friend with the swastika avatar!"

It's okay he has a black friend too

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I only mention his skin color, because he is oblivious to his white privilege and how it allows him to pretend to speak for over a billion people despite not knowing their language or having been to their country. His approach would be as ridiculous as a Chinese person claiming anyone who criticizes Trump is racist against Americans. It's idiotic and born of his (as this topic has made very obvious) unchecked privilege.

I don't have a problem with him because he is white. I have a problem with him because he thinks he has the authority to speak for others because he is white and that he thinks people's ethnicity determines their opinions (unless they're white that is, white people get to have different opinions, but every Chinese person has the same opinion according to Shab).

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ssjevot posted...

(unless they're white that is, white people get to have different opinions, but every Chinese person has the same opinion according to Shab)

He's not racist though!

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