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Sayoria
07/06/21 4:26:20 PM
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People who do local fireworks with total neglect for their neighbors are the shittiest people. Somewhat glad my state has them illegal.

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MrDrMan
07/06/21 11:31:45 PM
#103:


TheLiarParadox posted...
What if that one night is before an important day for someone? What if it was at the end of a long day? Everybody's got shit going on under "normal circumstances," which we definitely aren't close to anymore. It's pretty easy to be so indifferent when you don't stop to think or care about anyone else.

What if, what if, what if. I dont care about what if. The world doesnt stop because of your individual plans. Its that simple. If you have an important day then prepare accordingly. You keep making it seem as if people are completely helpless. Prepare for what is coming or cry to someone else.

This lady doesnt care about their Independence Day which is obviously important to them. Why should they care about her important day?



Sure, but why is that an excuse to let people be as obnoxious as they want instead of an impetus to do better all across the board?

I never said to let people be obnoxious. I said handle it in an adult manner. That means having a conversation. If she did that then I already said theyre in the wrong.



Comparing fireworks to dogs and babies, two things I'm not particularly fond of tbh, is really dumb btw. Dogs and babies have far more purpose/utility/meaning than a series of fleeting moments of fireworks displays.

Nobody gives a shit about your dog or baby. A random baby serves no more purpose to me than a box of fireworks. If hes crying and screaming all night its just the same.

Aside from basing this on a video devoid of context, likely intentionally to manipulate people into feeling a certain way, how do you arrive at this conclusion? The fireworks people are creating a disturbance. They're endangering and bothering other people, and likely breaking the law in the process. Not that I care about the law in matters like this but that seems to be an important factor for people in certain other instances, so I figure it's worth bringing up here, too. She's merely responding to people who are showing everyone around them no consideration. How does their selfish behavior not factor into who's wrong or right in your book but someone throwing a tantrum in response is some huge affront?

That rationale might work for like, natural disasters and that kind of thing but we're talking about other human beings with agency and the capacity (theoretically, at least) to take others into consideration but are flagrantly doing the opposite. I agree that vulnerable people should be safeguarded from assholes but to turn that around as a reason to yet again shift blame from the actual problem is something else.

You've set this up so that the people creating this whole problem with their selfish choices are never responsible or worthy of contempt. On top of that, we can never speak out or discourage this behavior because people are apparently like natural disasters who can't be held responsible for their choice to bother everyone else but those who don't handle them the "right" way can be for theirs and need to do better.

That's some real Karen shit, dude.

Thats not Karen shit. Thats called being a forward thinking individual. You can be victim of circumstance or you can plan accordingly. Its that simple. Whether fireworks are legal or not you know that people will use them every Independence Day. To think that wont happen is plain ignorance.

This weak ass victim mentality is exactly why youre saying Im manipulating instead of realizing people have a free will and mind of their own. I have no power over anyone here just as this lady has no power over the people shes screaming at. A person completely ignorant to their surroundings and outside influences is equally at fault. Control what you can control and know when to pick your battles.

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MrDrMan
07/06/21 11:34:33 PM
#104:


Robot2600 posted...
Telling people to stop lighting fireworks is like going to a barbeque and yelling at everyone to stop cooking and eating.

Going to club and screaming about the music being too loud.

Going to the grocery store and yelling at people for supporting big business.

It just shows a sincere lack of human understanding.

This is the most basic way I know how to put it. Its not even about right or wrong. Its about the fact you know it will happen.

Like are you guys to this new country or something? Fireworks happen every year. Are you going to complain next year too? Grow the fuck up and stop crying about shit you know is coming.

The only thing you can predict is the unpredictable so plan accordingly. Take all precautions.

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MrDrMan
07/06/21 11:36:06 PM
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TheLiarParadox posted...
The lady didn't go anywhere though. They brought the nuisance to her home.

She doesnt own the entire street. They have the right to be there just as much as she does.

I can not believe I even have to explain this.

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Zikten
07/06/21 11:44:08 PM
#106:


I think the people defending the fireworks have never lived in a neighborhood that turns into a war zone once a year
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Zikten
07/06/21 11:44:31 PM
#107:


MrDrMan posted...


She doesnt own the entire street. They have the right to be there just as much as she does.

I can not believe I even have to explain this.

It needs to be illegal for them to do what they are doing
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CruelBuffalo
07/06/21 11:45:43 PM
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Zikten posted...
I think the people defending the fireworks have never lived in a neighborhood that turns into a war zone once a year

I have. If its 4th of July get over it. Its a holiday. Every other day I understand the annoyance
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MrDrMan
07/07/21 12:08:42 AM
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Zikten posted...
I think the people defending the fireworks have never lived in a neighborhood that turns into a war zone once a year

Missouri is literally #1 in the nation in terms of fireworks bought per capita. Try again. I guarantee Im dealing with this on a larger scale than you.

Get over it. I think a lot of things should be illegal. Im not gonna complain until the law changes though.

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TheLiarParadox
07/07/21 12:38:36 AM
#110:


MrDrMan posted...
What if, what if, what if. I dont care about what if. The world doesnt stop because of your individual plans. Its that simple. If you have an important day then prepare accordingly. You keep making it seem as if people are completely helpless. Prepare for what is coming or cry to someone else.

This lady doesnt care about their Independence Day which is obviously important to them. Why should they care about her important day?
"I should be able to do what I want and if you can't handle it, YOU'RE the problem."

Karen shit.

I never said to let people be obnoxious. I said handle it in an adult manner. That means having a conversation. If she did that then I already said theyre in the wrong.
"If you can't handle other people choosing to being assholes in the way I think you should, YOU'RE the problem."

Karen shit.

Nobody gives a shit about your dog or baby. A random baby serves no more purpose to me than a box of fireworks. If hes crying and screaming all night its just the same.
"My right to be a dangerous nuisance means more than an infant human life."

Karen shit, and quite sociopathic.

Thats not Karen shit. Thats called being a forward thinking individual. You can be victim of circumstance or you can plan accordingly. Its that simple. Whether fireworks are legal or not you know that people will use them every Independence Day. To think that wont happen is plain ignorance.

This weak ass victim mentality is exactly why youre saying Im manipulating instead of realizing people have a free will and mind of their own. I have no power over anyone here just as this lady has no power over the people shes screaming at. A person completely ignorant to their surroundings and outside influences is equally at fault. Control what you can control and know when to pick your battles.
Like I said, humans aren't natural disasters devoid of the ability to take others into consideration. They're fully capable of doing so and choosing not to for their own selfish purposes.

You keep bitching about how people respond to those responsible for the fireworks and how they should adapt and change but you never, not even for one second think that the people actually creating the problem should or could change.

Like I said, you set this up where the people actively creating the problem have no standards or expectations while you expect everyone to cater to them. That's textbook Karen shit, dude.

She doesnt own the entire street. They have the right to be there just as much as she does.

I can not believe I even have to explain this.

Neither do they. They don't own her property you support them violating and endangering. They don't pay her mortgage or property taxes or bills. If they were in the privacy of their homes or the confines of their property, minding their own business, and not bothering anyone with actions that violate fireworks laws, noise ordinances, and endanger other people, you would have a point. Their actions are creating the problem and intruding upon other people's comfort and peace of mind, and I cannot believe I even have to explain this, Karen.


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Kanaya413
07/07/21 12:46:03 AM
#111:


I hate fireworks especially because of how many pets are lost because of them
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MrDrMan
07/07/21 12:49:52 AM
#112:


Dude legit are you fucking dumb? Like legit? There is no problem. The whole basis of your argument is subjective. You cant say the people creating the problem in a situation where the problem is completely subjective. To you, the problem is the fireworks. To me, it is the lady screaming.

We cant say what the problem is definitively. That is why you are wrong.

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R1masher
07/07/21 12:52:00 AM
#113:


Z got some of the hottest takes 8d trolling

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TheLiarParadox
07/07/21 12:53:35 AM
#114:


MrDrMan posted...
Dude legit are you fucking dumb? Like legit? There is no problem. The whole basis of your argument is subjective. You cant say the people creating the problem in a situation where the problem is completely subjective. To you, the problem is the fireworks. To me, it is the lady screaming.

We cant say what the problem is definitively. That is why you are wrong.
"Bothering everyone around me by blasting loud, dangerous, flaming projectiles in close proximity to their homes while they want to sleep or have some peace and quiet is a-ok but I draw the line at someone getting mad about that!"

That's nice, Karen. Shut the fuck up, Karen.

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MrDrMan
07/07/21 12:55:05 AM
#115:


TheLiarParadox posted...
"Bothering everyone around me by blasting loud, dangerous, flaming projectiles in close proximity to their homes while they want to sleep or have some peace and quiet is a-ok but I draw the line at someone getting mad about that!"

That's nice, Karen. Shut the fuck up, Karen.

Owned. Youre my son now.

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TheLiarParadox
07/07/21 12:57:21 AM
#116:


Lol.

What do you think is happening here?

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MrDrMan
07/07/21 1:02:36 AM
#117:


Looks like some bitch boy is over here crying into the abyss. Wahhh the fireworks too loud!!

Cry more. Fucking OWNED. You are my son.

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ViewtifulGrave
07/07/21 1:06:51 AM
#118:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
Its easier than you think. Exorbitant fines/jail sentences to make examples out of people, and the rest will (mostly) stop.
Lol that shit doesnt stop anyone. I live in the Inland Empire right next to a bunch of dried up hills and its a war zone every 4th of July out here.

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TheLiarParadox
07/07/21 1:14:26 AM
#119:


MrDrMan posted...
Looks like some bitch boy is over here crying into the abyss. Wahhh the fireworks too loud!!

Cry more. Fucking OWNED. You are my son.
Are you drunk?

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MrDrMan
07/07/21 1:16:34 AM
#120:


TheLiarParadox posted...
Are you drunk?

Im your father.

Cant spell TheLiarParadox without an L. Now own it, like I own you.

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TheLiarParadox
07/07/21 1:20:46 AM
#121:


This is getting weird.

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Zikten
07/07/21 1:25:56 AM
#122:


Lol
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MrDrMan
07/07/21 1:29:32 AM
#123:


TheLiarParadox posted...
This is getting weird.

I thought we were trolling now?

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TheLiarParadox
07/07/21 1:39:56 AM
#124:


Oh. Is that what you were trying to do? Awkward.

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MrDrMan
07/07/21 1:43:30 AM
#125:


A little slow on the uptake are we?

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TheLiarParadox
07/07/21 1:48:43 AM
#126:


Eh. It's just that I was more concerned for you than anything. I guess trolling isn't what it used to be.

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Sayoria
07/07/21 4:42:54 AM
#127:


Kanaya413 posted...
I hate fireworks especially because of how many pets are lost because of them

Aly Reisman literally just lost hers in Boston because of fireworks.

https://www.masslive.com/news/2021/07/after-boston-fireworks-spook-mass-native-and-olympian-aly-raisman-asks-for-help-finding-dog-mylo.html

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