Current Events > Is borderlands 3 good or no?

(+) Yeah! (+)

enjoyed borderlands 1 and 2 at the time

but i dont know if im growing out of looter shooters. Didnt really like Outsiders cause it felt like a shooting gallery

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As a fan of the series, no. The characters and writing are some of the worst for the franchise and the game is horrendously unoptimized.

The game play itself is tight enough I guess, and the different planets make for some variety in scenery, but if you're already starting to get burned out on the formula this game is definitely not going to draw you back in.

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3 has way better movement and more balance between the playable vault hunters. Lot of good Quality of Life things, y'know?

But the story (and villains) pale in comparison to 2. The late-game falls off pretty quickly with farming, too.

But the guns are pretty cool. Each manufacturer got a new gimmick. eg. Jakobs' guns ricochet on headshots, Dahl guns have a secondary fire mode, Hyperion added a front shield when ADS firing.

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It's alright if you do everything in your power to ignore the story
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its alright. It isn't great by any stretch of the imagination, and the only dlc that I actually liked was Guns, Love and Tentacles. The dlc that focused on Kreig felt like a poor mans Bunkers and Badasses.

gameplay is good, but everything else is shit, including level design and the gameplay loop

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I thought it was decent. But I also think the story and characters are trash in all the games, and I don't really think this one is that much worse than the others.

In terms of just shooting things, I had a decent time. But I don't really know how the end game goes and I've only done a single normal play through, where I've played over 200 hours of the other games and played through at least normal mode with every character in the series. So I can't comment on end game, build variety, character viability, etc.

I will say that the normal guns (not legendary) felt very samey compared to purple/blue guns of 2 some reason. Idk what it was.

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I found it pretty fun but yeah the story is crappy


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ill probably wait till it drops more in price then. Dont want to spend 20 bucks

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The map system is terrible
The things they did with new and old characters are terrible (very few exceptions, Cpt Traunt, Typhon, and Film Buff are amazing. Ava's almost as bad as Pickle and Tina, Lorelei is annoying, they did Maya dirty af, and the twins are just pure wasted potential. They had one funny exchange in the entire game [the train station where they're pretending to be PA announcers])
Level design ranges between okay and holy shit bad
Character skins and heads are not great. There's a lot, but most of them blow. Though I do appreciate being able to adjust the color on skins.
I'm not great at weapon/grenade/class mod/shield synergies but weapons feel very unbalanced and it's extremely easy to get more legendaries than you can eat so you'll just be drowning in garbage orange guns for most of your playthrough
Story and writing have never ever been a Borderlands strong suit, and as the series goes on it keeps getting worse and they keep force feeding it to you even harder

Climbing is fun
Graphics are great
Revenge of the Cartels is one of the best seasonal events of all time and they just made it permanent
Skill trees are fun

I wanted to like 3 but jeez. Worth a play but it's a letdown.

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Also a big reason I didn't replay the game is that I heard long segments of boring, unskippable story bog down the experience. This was a minor issue in 2, but I think it's a lot more obnoxious in 3 and idk if they ever fixed it.

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Goodness no

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gna647 posted...

but i dont know if im growing out of looter shooters

That's all it is good for, so don't get it unless you know for sure

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It's not 2, the pre-sequel and 3 just pale in comparison to 2. It was interesting, but not interesting enough to hold my interest and make me want to go play the DLCs immediately. In fact, I haven't played any of them so far.

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No it's terrible the story is ass.
(And the character weapon screen lags so god damn much it's unacceptable and unplayable coming from someone on a base xbox one idk if they ever fixed it).

1 to presequel were perfect idk 3 did nothing for me.

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The Nintendo Master posted...

It's not 2, the pre-sequel and 3 just pale in comparison to 2. It was interesting, but not interesting enough to hold my interest and make me want to go play the DLCs immediately. In fact, I haven't played any of them so far.

You should play Moxxxi's heist of the Handsome Jackpot. It's a good farewell to Jack

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Bloodmoon77 posted...

No it's terrible the story is ass.
(And the character weapon screen lags so god damn much it's unacceptable and unplayable coming from someone on a base xbox one idk if they ever fixed it).

1 to presequel were perfect idk 3 did nothing for me.

Pre-sequel was far worse than 3. The story was alright, but visually it was god awful. Being on the moon sucked.

Bloodmoon77 posted...

(And the character weapon screen lags so god damn much it's unacceptable and unplayable coming from someone on a base xbox one idk if they ever fixed it).

forgot about that, lol. what a mess

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Ivany2008 posted...

Pre-sequel was far worse than 3. The story was alright, but visually it was god awful. Being on the moon sucked.

The graphics were the exact same. Maybe being on a white moon was bland but so was being on the ground for all the other games.
I'm probably the only one who enjoyed the zero gravity jump aspect. But it wasn't bad because you had a ground pound and it was halo physics.
Story wise yes it was still better than 3 honestly. You got to see the whole reason why 2 happened and it was really entertaining.

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Gameplay is fun. Everything else physically hurts.
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Bloodmoon77 posted...

The graphics were the exact same. Maybe being on a white moon was bland but so was being on the ground for all the other games.
I'm probably the only one who enjoyed the zero gravity jump aspect. But it wasn't bad because you had a ground pound and it was halo physics.
Story wise yes it was still better than 3 honestly. You got to see the whole reason why 2 happened and it was really entertaining.

It's not just that. It's just the overall color palette. Somehow they managed to make every color blend together, which I still can't understand because its Borderlands....

I don't mind the zero gravity bit, but other games also did that, and imo better.

Ivany2008 posted...

It's not just that. It's just the overall color palette. Somehow they managed to make every color blend together, which I still can't understand because its Borderlands....

I don't mind the zero gravity bit, but other games also did that, and imo better.

Aight I totally get that part

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I enjoyed it. Not as good as 2 but I thought the Siren was the absolute most fun she's ever been in 3, and QOL and benefits of being newer/refined carry it past the lacking story/memorable characters

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Girl power!

3 extremely obviously withheld a ton of content to sell as DLC (or save for BL4) and really soured me on the series. All the previous games were good as is, and dlc just made them better, but 3 was still lacking even after 4 dlcs (and they still tried to drag out another lackluster season pass, that's when I got off).

The first two were fun since fucking terrible don't bother

I felt the first one is the best by far.
2 and 3 were good but 2 just felt like one long drawn out DLC of 1 and 3 gets bogged down with all the traveling and while the weapons are fine I went through long stretches of the game without changing the 4 accessories.
The Prequel was terrible.

I had fun with it and I even thought the story/villains were ok

the world map and inventory screens were terrible console port shit though

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3 sucks. I had tried to get through it 4 times before finally succeeding with four friends and we all hated it and just wanted to get it done. The maps are waaaay too fucking big and all the cool ideas that it has or new gameplay changes are overshadowed by how poorly it runs all the time. Way too often they have you just sit still too and listen to a story that rivals square enix games in how terrible it is

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no

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You gotta admit though, Handsome Jack is such an awesome villain that they brought him back in 3 games after BL2. But this also means that Gearbox couldn't come up with a better antagonist which is sad.
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I spent most of my time in that arena killing stuff on mayhem 3. I know there is mayhem 10 now but stopped playing around the time the ghost guns came out.

As a solo player I thought it was more fun that the previous game borderlands 2. I liked that slag was no longer a mechanic like it was in 2. I also like the fact that enemy health wasnt overly bloated. The 2nd game had that bee shield (the one that adds shield health to damage) to blame for the extra spongy enemies iirc.

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UnholyMudcrab posted...

It's alright if you do everything in your power to ignore the story

Did they add in the ability to skip cutscenes?

St0rmFury posted...

You gotta admit though, Handsome Jack is such an awesome villain that they brought him back in 3 games after BL2. But this also means that Gearbox couldn't come up with a better antagonist which is sad.

You could entirely ignore the villains from 3 and the story around it is still trash.

Which is sad, as some of the additions to characters are fantastic. I LOVE Jakobs and Typhon is fun. It's such a fucking disservice how they treat past characters.

Ava, singlehandedly, makes the game unbearable. I've never seen a more annoying and frustrating character.
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Blue_Dream87 posted...

I thought the Siren was the absolute most fun she's ever been in 3

Ditto.

Amara is a melee junkie dream. She can be played without hardly ever using her guns.

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The story and characters aren't good. That being said outside of Handsome Jack that is pretty par for the course for Borderlands. Like usual there are certain characters/storylines that are entertaining but overall it's underwhelming.

Gameplaywise it's just a straight improvement over the other instalments. Better movement, more interesting guns, more fleshed out skill trees, better balancing (at least compared to 2). Maps have a range but at least to me are better overall, partially because of the verticality that is more possible. Obviously this is subject to performance but I don't have any issues in that regards, on PC.

My biggest gripe is that the base game feels incomplete. The first round of DLCs were all very good but it feels like without them you aren't really getting a complete game. Then again, I think BL2 pretty much feels the same way.

The gameplay is the best in the series. The story of the base game sucks.

The DLC stories are pretty damn good and make up the bad vanilla game.

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Slayer_22 posted...

Did they add in the ability to skip cutscenes?

You could entirely ignore the villains from 3 and the story around it is still trash.

Which is sad, as some of the additions to characters are fantastic. I LOVE Jakobs and Typhon is fun. It's such a fucking disservice how they treat past characters.

Ava, singlehandedly, makes the game unbearable. I've never seen a more annoying and frustrating character.

I almost put the game away during that retrieve her diary mission, everything about it made me uncomfortable. I get there is a humor aspect to these games but that was just creepy.

redlem posted...

I almost put the game away during that retrieve her diary mission, everything about it made me uncomfortable. I get there is a humor aspect to these games but that was just creepy.

Nonono, according to Ana's writer, that mission was supposed to make you like her. Because, like, imagine if you were her and how embarrassing that would be. How can you not like her after that mission? You just didn't play that mission.

^ literally something the writer was arguing once about the hate against her. And I feel like he was trying to subtly hint that someone read his diary out loud but he didn't want to say it for some reason. How tf does that mission help with anything? She's still a trash character.

NecroFoul99 posted...

Ditto.

Amara is a melee junkie dream. She can be played without hardly ever using her guns.

Krieg was way more fun imo. Loved how he had a melee specific playstyle with a unique weapon with tons of special stuff(tossing buzzaxes, exploding yourself for revivals, melee mode in general, never dying, mutant mode) my god, I loved Krieg. Amara never hit that sweet spot.
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Imagine wishing you could turn off ALL dialogue and ALL cutscenes

thats borderlands 3

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They also ruined Vaugh.

Went from a super funny, well written straight man doing his best in a wacky world to 'lol wacky randomz LMAO'.

At least some characters were done well. Rhys was fun. Brick, Tina, and Mordy were great. Hammerlock and Jakobs were fantastic. Claptrap was nice.

I couldn't stand anyone else. Well, the weird dinosaur side character for the Halloween event was funny, Maurice. I liked him.
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It's hard to top Handsome Jack for a villain in this series

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Nazanir posted...

The gameplay is the best in the series. The story of the base game sucks.

The DLC stories are pretty damn good and make up the bad vanilla game.

I feel like that's been a pretty consistent trend in the series and one that increasingly makes me want to put it down and never play any sequels. If they're intentionally holding off all their good writing for DLC packs, game after game, then there's really no reason for me to ever buy the base game because I know the story is going to be crap.

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s0nicfan posted...

I feel like that's been a pretty consistent trend in the series and one that increasingly makes me want to put it down and never play any sequels. If they're intentionally holding off all their good writing for DLC packs, game after game, then there's really no reason for me to ever buy the base game because I know the story is going to be crap.

Base BL2 >>>>>>>> all it's DLCs
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Slayer_22 posted...

Base BL2 >>>>>>>> all it's DLCs

I don't know, maybe people have just gotten over it, but I remember everybody talking about how much better the Tiny Tina dragon keep DLC was compared to the base game.

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Not bad but not as good as 2. I eventually got bored with it.

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s0nicfan posted...

I feel like that's been a pretty consistent trend in the series and one that increasingly makes me want to put it down and never play any sequels. If they're intentionally holding off all their good writing for DLC packs, game after game, then there's really no reason for me to ever buy the base game because I know the story is going to be crap.

You're 100% right but some of the DLCs sucked as well. I quit playing after the 4th one because the game as a whole just wasn't fun anymore. The DLCs did nothing to keep me going.
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s0nicfan posted...

I don't know, maybe people have just gotten over it, but I remember everybody talking about how much better the Tiny Tina dragon keep DLC was compared to the base game.

Dragon's Keep was really good, don't get me wrong, but it built off the excellence of base BL2. It was still, at it's core, a DnD/fantasy game reference with an emotional ending.
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Its good.
It has the best shooting mechanics of the series. However, its not as good as Borderlands 2.
Writing and humor is meh but its still an enjoyable single player experience.

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s0nicfan posted...

I don't know, maybe people have just gotten over it, but I remember everybody talking about how much better the Tiny Tina dragon keep DLC was compared to the base game.

Tiny Tina's DLC is good enough that it's getting its own game >_>

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