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WalkingLobsters
06/30/21 1:56:12 PM
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what happened? He was found innocent?

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PoundGarden
06/30/21 1:57:33 PM
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Bill Cosby was never entertaining or funny.

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2Pacavelli
06/30/21 1:58:05 PM
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No he did not
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whitelytning
06/30/21 1:58:07 PM
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He did commit sexual assault.
He was not found innocent.
He was released from prison because the state Supreme Court ruled he did not receive a fair trial.

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WalkingLobsters
06/30/21 1:58:11 PM
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PoundGarden posted...
Bill Cosby was never entertaining or funny.
he was funny

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Lost_All_Senses
06/30/21 1:58:17 PM
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Pill Cosby

Someone said that here once. That is all.

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catboy
06/30/21 1:58:32 PM
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WalkingLobsters posted...
he was funny
he was not (well actually his stand up was)

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WalkingLobsters
06/30/21 1:58:38 PM
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whitelytning posted...
He did commit sexual assault.
He was not found innocent.
He was released from prison because the state Supreme Court ruled he did not receive a fair trial.
so he hasn't had a real trial yet? So he's innocent until proven guilty right now?

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Lost_All_Senses
06/30/21 1:59:47 PM
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catboy posted...
he was not (well actually his stand up was)

Carlos Mencia sure liked it.

cause he used his jokes

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The_Korey
06/30/21 1:59:48 PM
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I kinda hope he did, because his life will be irreversibly fucked up by this level of accusations. There's no komming back.

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R1masher
06/30/21 2:00:42 PM
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I dont know, theres news outlets reporting he did and people on social media saying he did, Im not saying theyre lying or he is lying all I can know for sure is that he never dipped his spoon in my pudding

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Background_Guy
06/30/21 2:01:00 PM
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Yes, he confessed.
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Shablagoo
06/30/21 2:02:35 PM
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He admitted to drugging women with illicit substances. Thats not definitive proof that he sexually assaulted them too, but...

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Lost_All_Senses
06/30/21 2:03:51 PM
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R1masher posted...
I dont know, theres news outlets reporting he did and people on social media saying he did, Im not saying theyre lying or he is lying all I can know for sure is that he never dipped his spoon in my pudding

If you've ever been asleep, can you really say that with 100% certainty?

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Shablagoo
06/30/21 2:05:07 PM
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...
why do you think he didn't? Im curious to hear your reasons cause you say a lot of shit our people people wanna say but don't. For the record, he did.

See for me all the shit people say about MJ for example is a lie but with Cosby he said himself he drugged women so I tend to put more stock in the accusations.

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PoundGarden
06/30/21 2:08:16 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
He admitted to drugging women with illicit substances. Thats not definitive proof that he sexually assaulted them too, but...

True. I oftentimes invite people over and drug them. Not for gross stuff, I like to dress them as super heroes and put them in funny poses

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catboy
06/30/21 2:09:08 PM
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PoundGarden posted...
True. I oftentimes invite people over and drug them. Not for gross stuff, I like to dress them as super heroes and put them in funny poses
I thought this was a Lost_All_Senses post

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Questionmarktarius
06/30/21 2:09:19 PM
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PoundGarden posted...
Not for gross stuff, I like to dress them as super heroes and put them in funny poses
So that's where this cape came from!
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R1masher
06/30/21 2:10:10 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
If you've ever been asleep, can you really say that with 100% certainty?

oh shit! I may never sleep again, I could even be being prostituted out for all I know

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2Pacavelli
06/30/21 2:11:06 PM
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...
why do you think he didn't? Im curious to hear your reasons cause you say a lot of shit our people people wanna say but don't. For the record, he did.

Because the testimony that he gave in the civil case was misrepresented.

He never said he gave her anything against her will. Actually what he gave Constand was actually pain medicine for a headache because she requested it. It was not qualudes. The media conflated past events where he used qualudes with women before sex with this situation with Constand.

He also went to church and many other events with Constand numerous times. So the evidence that he sexually assaulted her was very weak.

This is pertaining strictly to the case he was falsely convicted on.

As far as prior cases involving qualudes. He never ever stated that he gave any woman qualudes against their will. Qualudes were a drug of choice back then like how weed and Molly's are some drugs of choice today that people use today willingly.

The statement that the media is dispensing that he confessed to any wrong doing is false. Actually he has always maintained his innocence. Some evidence below



Cosby Deposition:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2158445-cosby-deposition.html
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Proto_Spark
06/30/21 2:15:29 PM
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It sounds like Bill Cosby had an agreement with a prosecutor to not include the biggest witness used in his trial from an earlier agreement he had with the previous district attorney. This came from a civil trial the same woman put forward back in 2005.

Not including the main allegation (which was the only one with both sufficient evidence and was still within the statute of limitations) would basically mean there isn't a case against Bill Cosby outside of him directly confessing to these crimes. So they overturned the decision and let him walk.

So on one hand, it in no way suggests that Cosby was innocent in this incident, rather that a prior commitment meant that Cosby couldn't be charged with this specific crime in this specific case.

Depending on how you would like to see that, it could easily be seen as either Cosby being a victim of "outrage culture" who condemned him before getting a chance to prove himself, or it could also be Cosby being smart enough to cover his tracks so it couldn't come back and bite him (which legally speaking, seems like what happened)

In an interesting tidbit, the prosecutor who gave Cosby his out here (12 years ago) is currently best known for being Trump's legal defence during his 2nd impeachment.

tl;dr: In no way does this actually say Bill Cosby is innocent (or guilty) here, rather he's basically getting off on a technicality.
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Sheiky-Baby
06/30/21 2:18:25 PM
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Shablagoo
06/30/21 2:25:48 PM
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...
Whether or not you believe MJ did it(I don't believe he did), the man had a god complex which he used to groom kids(not sexually) in a sense, basically buying them from their parents. The fact that the man was able to put himself in all of these situations alone with kids away from their parents when no other man in history could do that speaks volumes on how much power and influence he flexed.

Oh yeah it was definitely weird as fuck rich people shit by an eccentric dude I just think the more damning accusations come from a shitty, often racist or homophobic place, when theres no evidence he actually did anything evil.


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WalkingLobsters
06/30/21 2:44:27 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
He admitted to drugging women with illicit substances. Thats not definitive proof that he sexually assaulted them too, but...
I have a $100 million dollars in cash

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Proto_Spark
06/30/21 2:50:19 PM
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WalkingLobsters posted...
I have a $100 million dollars in cash

I didn't think it needed to be mentioned, but when you confess to committing a crime, its usually taken at face value, because y'know, you admit to it.
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2Pacavelli
06/30/21 2:51:48 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
I didn't think it needed to be mentioned, but when you confess to committing a crime, its usually taken at face value, because y'know, you admit to it.

What crime did Cosby confess to committing?
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Proto_Spark
06/30/21 2:53:32 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
What crime did Cosby confess to committing?

Shablagoo posted...
He admitted to drugging women with illicit substances. Thats not definitive proof that he sexually assaulted them too, but...

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2Pacavelli
06/30/21 2:57:11 PM
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The deposition shows that he never admitted to drugging any women. That is a lie that the court system and media dispensed to get a false conviction.


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WalkingLobsters
06/30/21 2:57:34 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
I didn't think it needed to be mentioned, but when you confess to committing a crime, its usually taken at face value, because y'know, you admit to it.
not if you're being blackmailed

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Naysaspace
06/30/21 2:58:58 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
The deposition shows that he never admitted to drugging any women.


Without their knowledge.

It says nothing about whether he did or did not actually give them quaaludes.

reading comprehension, my dude.
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dj1200
06/30/21 2:59:26 PM
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PoundGarden posted...
Bill Cosby was never entertaining or funny.

yes he was.

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2Pacavelli
06/30/21 2:59:56 PM
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Naysaspace posted...
Without their knowledge.

It says nothing about whether he did or did not actually give them quaaludes.

reading comprehension, my dude.

To drug someone is to give them drugs against their will or without their knowledge
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cjsdowg
06/30/21 3:00:54 PM
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While a lot of people say he admitted it. He did not. This is not saying he is innocent by any means.



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Crescente
06/30/21 3:03:05 PM
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Is this going to be another OJ mayo case?
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