Current Events > Vegans on Master Chef...why?

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"I've never cooked chicken before lol"

"I've never made sausage before lol"

"I've never made crab before lol"

Then you ain't a Master Chef, bitch. Ridiculous that she made it to the top ten, especially after serving two out of three judges a raw chicken breast

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Master chief, do you mind telling me what youre doing with that veggie burger?

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almost like reality shows are scripted

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I haven't watched the show, but there's someone on there who calls themselves a vegan but prepares non-vegan food? Veganism is about avoiding animal exploitation. I don't think you should call yourself a vegan if you're bending your rules to win a cooking competition.

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Son Of Spam posted...

I haven't watched the show, but there's someone on there who calls themselves a vegan but prepares non-vegan food? Veganism is about avoiding animal exploitation. I don't think you should call yourself a vegan if you're bending your rules to win a cooking competition.

If you don't eat animal produce what are you if not a vegan?

Also, I didn't realize there was a new season. Thanks, TC.

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I remember one episode early in the season a dude was eliminated on a dessert challenge because it was the first time he made whipped cream (and failed)

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Maybe we shouldnt torture animals.

My step-dad was vegan, but he still cooked meat all the time for dinners and parties. He didn't have his head up his ass with some imposing self-righteous bullshit attitude and cooked everything lol >_>

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Omnislasher posted...

Maybe we shouldnt torture animals.

Agreed but can we still eat them

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you shouldnt force your beliefs down the throats of vegans

i mean, you can be a Master Vegan Chef... *shrugs*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ag-gag

why go to such lengths to keep you from seeing where your meat comes from?

Omnislasher posted...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ag-gag

why go to such lengths to keep you from seeing where your meat comes from?

Because corrupt lawmakers want to protect their states' industry?

It's not a difficult concept, nor a smoking gun.

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A few more years until cultured meat is commonly available, and (now-)vegans and meat-lovers alike can cook & enjoy it all they like without getting in each other's hair.

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DeadBankerDream posted...

If you don't eat animal produce what are you if not a vegan?

A plant-based dieter. Veganism is about trying to remove animal products from all aspects of your life as feasibly as possible because you're doing it for the animals.

The Trent posted...

Agreed but can we still eat them

Not at anywhere near the current rate we eat it. Giant farms aren't cruel to the animals just for the fun of it. They do it because it's cheaper.

DeadBankerDream posted...

Because corrupt lawmakers want to protect their states' industry?

It's not a difficult concept, nor a smoking gun.

Protecting those industries from what though? The corrupt lawmakers help these industries keep their secrets because they know that the truth being widely known about how these places operate would turn people off to it.

Aressar posted...

A few more years until cultured meat is commonly available, and (now-)vegans and meat-lovers alike can cook & enjoy it all they like without getting in each other's hair.

I don't plan to eat it myself, but I can't wait for it. Meat eaters will have very few excuses to justify eating meat in a few years.

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Son Of Spam posted...

A plant-based dieter. Veganism is about trying to remove animal products from all aspects of your life as feasibly as possible because you're doing it for the animals.

You are painting all vegans with a pretty wide brush. There are people who are vegan for perceived health benefits. There are people who ate vegans for environmental reasons. There are people who are vegans because of the treatment of animals. There are people who are vegans because eating animal products just weird them out. They share a diet in common not necessarily the underlying reasoning behind it.

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Son Of Spam posted...

A plant-based dieter. Veganism is about trying to remove animal products from all aspects of your life as feasibly as possible because you're doing it for the animals.

I mean, you made that up and is sniffing your own virtue like farts, but okay.

Son Of Spam posted...

Protecting those industries from what though? The corrupt lawmakers help these industries keep their secrets because they know that the truth being widely known about how these places operate would turn people off to it.

In some sense, I guess.

The idea that knowing what "goes on" in slaughterhouses (as if people already don't) would turn the world significantly vegan/vegetarians is a laughable ideological idea that some supposed intelligent humans have. But for sure there is an incentive to keep bloody and gory images out of the public due to the gut reaction such would cause probably having a minor, almost insignificant, negative result on revenue for said industry. It doesn't mean there's some sort of conspiracy to keep the evils of meat eating secret. They're not. Linked to that, there's also an incentive to protect the individual factories within the state from a bad image that linking such gory images to them might give.

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Yeah, god knows omnivores on MC never serve raw meat to the judges right?

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Shezarr posted...

Yeah, god knows omnivores on MC never serve raw meat to the judges right?

it's more about not being able to taste your own food while cooking

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She's a bitch cuz she's vegan?

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thronedfire2 posted...

it's more about not being able to taste your own food while cooking

TC specifically mentioned serving up raw food. And some vegans/vegetarians on the show do taste it

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Son Of Spam posted...

I don't plan to eat it myself, but I can't wait for it. Meat eaters will have very few excuses to justify eating meat in a few years.

And then you can act extra superior!

Wow what a day that will be for you.

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Compsognathus posted...

You are painting all vegans with a pretty wide brush. There are people who are vegan for perceived health benefits. There are people who ate vegans for environmental reasons. There are people who are vegans because of the treatment of animals. There are people who are vegans because eating animal products just weird them out. They share a diet in common not necessarily the underlying reasoning behind it.

Those are all distinctive groups though. Someone on a plant-based diet might still buy leather goods or prepare meat for other people. A vegan might eat lab-grown meat while a plant-based dieter wouldn't if they are doing it for health reasons. A vegan might be more likely to eat a lot of junk food while a plant-based dieter who is doing it for health reasons likely wouldn't.
DeadBankerDream posted...

I mean, you made that up and is sniffing your own virtue like farts, but okay.

I didn't make it up. Donald Watson, the guy who coined the term vegan, co-founded the Vegan Society for animals rights. I'm not saying that vegans are better than plant-based dieters, just that they are distinct enough that they shouldn't be classified as the same thing just because their diets are similar.

In some sense, I guess.

The idea that knowing what "goes on" in slaughterhouses (as if people already don't) would turn the world significantly vegan/vegetarians is a laughable ideological idea that some supposed intelligent humans have. But for sure there is an incentive to keep bloody and gory images out of the public due to the gut reaction such would cause probably having a minor, almost insignificant, negative result on revenue for said industry. It doesn't mean there's some sort of conspiracy to keep the evils of meat eating secret. They're not. Linked to that, there's also an incentive to protect the individual factories within the state from a bad image that linking such gory images to them might give.

It probably wouldn't cause everyone to go vegan en-masse, but it would make factory farms have some accountability. It wouldn't be as easy for them to get away with their horrendous practices. Farm animals would actually get some level of welfare.

And believe it or not, a lot of people really aren't aware of how fucked up the industry is. My mom didn't even know that dairy cows need to be constantly impregnated to produce milk.

CanuckCowboy posted...

And then you can act extra superior!

Wow what a day that will be for you.

It's not about me. It's about the animals. If people have fewer reasons to eat meat from a dead animal then hopefully that will mean fewer animals needlessly dying. That's something everyone who isn't a psychopath should be in favor of.

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CanuckCowboy posted...

And then you can act extra superior!

Wow what a day that will be for you.

you're so insecure because somewhere deep down you know your position on this is wrong. and i think that's really sad.

I just don't understand where the defensiveness of meat eaters comes from. I eat meat, I recognize that as a moral failing. I recognize it to be an even bigger moral failing that I haven't committed to vegetarianism due to that

You don't need to be like xDDD vegetarians so smug kek I'll order an extra 3 burgers now!!!

You could just be like, honestly you're right. Or not say anything

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Opisseus posted...

I just don't understand where the defensiveness of meat eaters comes from.

i just told you where it comes from

Compsognathus posted...

There are people who ate vegans for environmental reasons.

I'd try it. Hope they appreciate the irony

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the new seasons barely started, but i hope that blonde girl wins, shes so pretty

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Opisseus posted...

I just don't understand where the defensiveness of meat eaters comes from. I eat meat, I recognize that as a moral failing. I recognize it to be an even bigger moral failing that I haven't committed to vegetarianism due to that

It's really tough breaking a way of thinking that your family and society has pushed on you since birth. It's also tough because if animal exploitation is immoral then that naturally means that you and nearly everyone you know is as well. It was a struggle for me for years. Hell, there are still things I do that I question the ethics of, like my gadget hobby that I need to work on doing less of. I don't think I'm a better person than anyone just because I'm vegan. There are meat eaters out there who are a better net positive for the world than me.

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Compsognathus posted...

You are painting all vegans with a pretty wide brush. There are people who are vegan for perceived health benefits. There are people who ate vegans for environmental reasons. There are people who are vegans because of the treatment of animals. There are people who are vegans because eating animal products just weird them out. They share a diet in common not necessarily the underlying reasoning behind it.

Veganism has a lot of gatekeeping. Basically if you aren't very specifically doing it for the animals (and being really annoying about it) you aren't a real vegan, you just have a plant-based diet. As in, veganism is considered to be a lifestyle and not a diet. Plant-based is the diet (though a plant-based diet doesn't mean you don't eat meat or other animal products, just mostly plant products)

There was a Hindu lady on season two who got so upset and couldn't kill a live lobster.

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DirkDiggles posted...

There was a Hindu lady on season two who got so upset and couldn't kill a live lobster.

It was a crab, and she did eventually end up preparing it. She cried for like 20 minutes but she did it. The camera kept doing a closeup of the crab. When it blew a bubble I lost it lmao

ZevLoveDOOM posted...

i mean, you can be a Master Vegan Chef... *shrugs*

Eeehhhhh, I take issue with that, its a huge asterisk. Thats like saying you're a master mechanic but refuse to work on imports. Vegans have no place in the Master Chef competition, they cannot taste their food which is basically one of the ten commandments of cooking. How are they gonna serve someone something when they have no idea how it tastes?

Omnislasher posted...

Maybe we shouldnt torture animals.

I've never seen a cook torture an animal. Turn down the drama, its pretty much 90% of why vegans aren't taken seriously. If you have to lie and embellish to make your case, you don't have one.

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PoundGarden posted...

I've never seen a cook torture an animal.

Nobody is talking about the cooks. If you think livestock are humanely treated (as if "humane" can be applied to beings that are killed), I have a bridge to sell you.

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DeadBankerDream posted...

If you don't eat animal produce what are you if not a vegan?

Also, I didn't realize there was a new season. Thanks, TC.

Veganism is a moral choice not a dietary one.

If you don't eat meat but then wear leather jackets and cologne made from beaver anuses then you're not really a vegan.

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Shezarr posted...

Shezarr posted...

If you think livestock are humanely treated (as if "humane" can be applied to beings that are killed), I have a bridge to sell you.

And if you think all livestock live in Tyson Foods conditions, you have no business commenting. I've spent the last 20 years of my life in farming communities. The animals have plenty of room to roam and are not mistreated. It makes zero sense to damage and abuse your product, and in 20 years I know of only ONE farmer in my community who had less than stellar conditions, and was reported and corrected the issues. Smaller communities actually care about their food and the conditions they live in.

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Why is it that whenever animal welfare is brought up, everyone suddenly lives in Avalon with giant free-ranging pastures of animals who are loved as family and die of old age before being eaten? Let's just conveniently forget how most livestock on the planet live.

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PoundGarden posted...

The animals have plenty of room to roam and are not mistreated

they're killed for superficial reasons tho lol

how isnt that mistreatment

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Opisseus posted...

they're killed for superficial reasons tho lol

People needing to eat is "superficial"?

Lol, vegans

Shezarr posted...

Why is it that whenever animal welfare is brought up, everyone suddenly lives in Avalon with giant free-ranging pastures of animals who are loved as family and die of old age before being eaten? Let's just conveniently forget how most livestock on the planet live.

Vegan drama

No. You don't forget it, you try and elicit change for better conditions. Meat eating will never, ever go away. Its a fools errand to try and make that happen. The best you can do is fight for humane conditions for feed animals.

Like, you people do realize cows and pigs only purpose is to feed other animals, right? If we didn't eat them, something else will, and the pigs especially would cause untold ironic damage to vegans food source. Pigs are destructive nuisance animals.


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ultimate reaver posted...

Master chief, do you mind telling me what youre doing with that veggie burger?

Sir, finishing this meal.

it's scripted

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PoundGarden posted...

People needing to eat is "superficial"?

people need to slaughter animals to eat?

PoundGarden posted...

Lol, vegans

me rn: https://i.imgur.com/wqrM4VP.jpg

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WalkingLobsters posted...

it's scripted

I definitely think the producers pushed hard to keep that idiot as long as they did. But the fued between her and Crissi was great TV, Crissi is my girl and about the only one who had the balls to give her shit over wasting a spot in the competition that could've gone to a real chef

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Opisseus posted...

people need to slaughter animals to eat?

Ideally. Eating them alive seems a bit much, and not that tasty.

Opisseus posted...

me rn: https://i.imgur.com/wqrM4VP.jpg

I neither know nor care what this is supposed to mean. But I do want a cheeseburger now, and Hyvee is doing a cookout with some p decent 1/2 lb burgers.

Brb, getting meat

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PoundGarden posted...

Ideally. Eating them alive seems a bit much, and not that tasty.

ah, everyone knows you win the argument when you simply bust out semantic wordplay

PoundGarden posted...

I neither know nor care what this is supposed to mean

scrape a couple brain cells together and tell me what a pic of me eating a cheeseburger in response to being called vegan might mean

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Opisseus posted...

ah, everyone knows you win the argument when you simply bust out semantic wordplay

If you insist on saying ridiculous things, I can do it too. I'm quite fluent in ridiculousness.

Opisseus posted...

scrape a couple brain cells together and tell me what a pic of me eating a cheeseburger in response to being called vegan might mean

It means you should probably shut the fuck up.

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TBF, I thought that was a veggie buger.

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DeadBankerDream posted...

TBF, I thought that was a veggie buger.

Same. Why tf would someone blast eating meat then post a pic of them....eating meat?

*sees who user is*

Withdrawn, now I get it. My fault for taking anything they say seriously

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Opisseus posted...

just take the L dude, he's right you did kind of slip up there