Current Events > American CEpeople, where would you flee if US fell to fascism??

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Zikten
06/29/21 7:13:42 PM
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You figure out the US is going down. Borders and planes are still open for a short time still. Most people haven't realized what is happening. You are one of the few who have advanced knowledge that the US government is about to fall and turn into a dictatorship

You have one chance to leave for another country before its too late. Where would you go?

If you live in a different country, pretend same thing was happening for your nation and where you would flee
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jp1200
06/29/21 7:14:19 PM
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Netherlands

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Wii_Shaker
06/29/21 7:14:44 PM
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I already have a nest egg in Mexico.

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Antifar
06/29/21 7:15:17 PM
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Canada


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R1masher
06/29/21 7:17:05 PM
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Wait, were not gonna defend our country?

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Feline_Heart
06/29/21 7:19:11 PM
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Dominican Republic or the UK

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Shezarr
06/29/21 7:19:40 PM
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Germany. If not there, Denmark or Spain.

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Squall28
06/29/21 7:20:29 PM
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Canada or UK. Need somewhere that speaks English

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Zikten
06/29/21 7:20:46 PM
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R1masher posted...
Wait, were not gonna defend our country?

What can one person do? If the government is falling, there isn't a lot average people could do about it
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MARKINGRAM22
06/29/21 7:20:50 PM
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I doubt anyone even understands what facism is on this board.
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MedeaLysistrata
06/29/21 7:20:52 PM
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R1masher posted...
Wait, were not gonna defend our country?
That's boomer shit apparently

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Unsugarized_Foo
06/29/21 7:20:55 PM
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Itd be more of a pain in the ass to move all my guns than to use them

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PaunchyTurtle53
06/29/21 7:21:07 PM
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Anyone who would decide to leave is an un-american piece of shit coward. If only we had an AMENDMENT that gave citizens the right to arm themselves and fight back against their government.

Your duty as a civilian, (Note, I use the term "civilian", not citizen, it's an important distinction.), should be to take up arms against the tyrants, or at least aid those who are. If your first instinct is to flee, you disgust me.

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a-c-a-b
06/29/21 7:21:56 PM
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If?

This is from 1996.

https://youtu.be/Yu6QTSnJbFs
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Feline_Heart
06/29/21 7:22:02 PM
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PaunchyTurtle53 posted...
Anyone who would decide to leave is an un-american piece of shit coward. If only we had an AMENDMENT that gave citizens the right to arm themselves and fight back against their government.

Your duty as a civilian, (Note, I use the term "civilian", not citizen, it's an important distinction.), should be to take up arms against the tyrants, or at least aid those who are. If your first instinct is to flee, you disgust me.
Is this a copypasta?

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R1masher
06/29/21 7:22:15 PM
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Zikten posted...
What can one person do? If the government is falling, there isn't a lot average people could do about it

now, were two!

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Mizznox
06/29/21 7:22:19 PM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
I doubt anyone even understands what facism is on this board.
You are very smart, please explain it to us.

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ScazarMeltex
06/29/21 7:29:46 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
That's boomer shit apparently
This country isn't worth dying to save. The track we are on has been our trajectory for 50 years now. People are too busy doing their own thing to notice unless it directly affects them. If I can get out (Canada first, then somewhere in Europe), I'll get out. If I can't, I'll fight.

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R1masher
06/29/21 7:32:25 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
This country isn't worth dying to save. The track we are on has been our trajectory for 50 years now. People are too busy doing their own thing to notice unless it directly affects them. If I can get out (Canada first, then somewhere in Europe), I'll get out. If I can't, I'll fight.


gross post, now go beat up another proud boy


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rivers
06/29/21 7:38:26 PM
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am i the one in charge?

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Zikten
06/29/21 7:43:03 PM
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rivers posted...
am i the one in charge?

You are a normal random nobody
No you don't have any political power
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sabrestorm
06/29/21 7:44:11 PM
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No place I would stay here and hope they leave me alone
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R1masher
06/29/21 7:46:35 PM
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sabrestorm posted...
No place I would stay here and hope they leave me alone

now, were two and a half, were gonna use your spot as a makeshift hq from time to time

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MedeaLysistrata
06/29/21 7:48:48 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
This country isn't worth dying to save. The track we are on has been our trajectory for 50 years now. People are too busy doing their own thing to notice unless it directly affects them. If I can get out (Canada first, then somewhere in Europe), I'll get out. If I can't, I'll fight.
Yeah, if it happened here I would probably try to flee too.

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Opisseus
06/29/21 7:49:45 PM
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No one, and I mean no one would take me. I don't know how willing I am to pay to marry someone abroad for citizenship.

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Crescente
06/29/21 7:59:10 PM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
I doubt anyone even understands what facism is on this board.

Let's try to define it:

https://www.livescience.com/57622-fascism.html

" The core principle what Paxton defined as fascism's only definition of morality is to make the nation stronger, more powerful, larger and more successful. Since fascists see national strength as the only thing that makes a nation "good," fascists will use any means necessary to achieve that goal. "

"Paxton, author of several books, including "The Anatomy of Fascism" (Vintage, 2005), said fascism is based more on feelings than philosophical ideas. In his 1988 essay "The Five Stages of Fascism," published in 1998 in the Journal of Modern History, he defined seven feelings that act as "mobilizing passions" for fascist regimes. They are:
  1. The primacy of the group. Supporting the group feels more important than maintaining either individual or universal rights.
  2. Believing that one's group is a victim. This justifies any behavior against the group's enemies.
  3. The belief that individualism and liberalism enable dangerous decadence and have a negative effect on the group.
  4. A strong sense of community or brotherhood. This brotherhood's "unity and purity are forged by common conviction, if possible, or by exclusionary violence if necessary."
  5. Individual self-esteem is tied up in the grandeur of the group. Paxton called this an "enhanced sense of identity and belonging."
  6. Extreme support of a "natural" leader, who is always male. This results in one man taking on the role of national savior.
  7. "The beauty of violence and of will, when they are devoted to the group's success in a Darwinian struggle," Paxton wrote. The idea of a naturally superior group or, especially in Hitler's case, biological racism, fits into a fascist interpretation of Darwinism.
Once in power, "fascist dictatorships suppressed individual liberties, imprisoned opponents, forbade strikes, authorized unlimited police power in the name of national unity and revival, and committed military aggression," Paxton wrote."

"In 1944, while much of the world was still influenced by fascist regimes, Orwell said that fascism is extremely difficult to define. In his "What Is Fascism?" essay, he said that much of the trouble was that fascist regimes differ wildly in many ways. "It is not easy, for instance, to fit Germany and Japan into the same framework, and it is even harder with some of the small states which are describable as fascist," Orwell wrote."

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Njolk
06/29/21 8:00:42 PM
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I'd want to be a lot further than Canada

Probably Chile

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R1masher
06/29/21 8:01:29 PM
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Opisseus posted...
No one, and I mean no one would take me. I don't know how willing I am to pay to marry someone abroad for citizenship.

so youre with us, whats that, three now?

cmon ce tough boys! Solidarity!

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VigorouslySwish
06/29/21 8:02:48 PM
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its not that easy lol most places do not want americans unless theyre rich

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Zikten
06/29/21 8:02:50 PM
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ArianaGrandSlam posted...
I dont want PEGI logos on my physical games so I guess Ill be staying in America

You probably wouldn't have ANY video games. Unless the new regime allows certain US devs to continue to exist. But the games would probably all be propaganda for the government
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RchHomieQuanChi
06/29/21 8:03:05 PM
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Canada would be the easiest option

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yemmy
06/29/21 8:03:10 PM
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R1masher posted...
Wait, were not gonna defend our country?

Sleepy joe said you'd need F15s and nukes to do that

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R1masher
06/29/21 8:04:33 PM
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yemmy posted...
Sleepy joe said you'd need F15s and nukes to do that

I think ce needs to go watch red dawn and get pumped!

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PrettyBoyFloyd
06/29/21 8:06:19 PM
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Not sure.

Probably head back home and hide in the Appalachian Mountains for my Hillbilly and Cherokee side.

Maybe Scotland or Ireland since I hear I'm also related too.

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Shezarr
06/29/21 8:13:38 PM
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VigorouslySwish posted...
its not that easy lol most places do not want americans unless theyre rich
I'm not rich but I can work pretty much anywhere and I'm looking into Italian citizenship by descent, so hello EU!

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Dakimakura
06/29/21 8:15:14 PM
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Switzerland


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Zikten
06/29/21 8:16:01 PM
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Rules on Americans fleeing to other nations would probably change in this scenario. Places like Canada and the UK would start letting in American refugees
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R1masher
06/29/21 8:16:19 PM
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you guys should just go now then

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Shezarr
06/29/21 8:21:02 PM
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R1masher posted...
you guys should just go now then
Joke's on you bud; I just might.

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PrettyBoyFloyd
06/29/21 8:27:15 PM
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yemmy posted...
Sleepy joe said you'd need F15s and nukes to do that

R1masher posted...
I think ce needs to go watch red dawn and get pumped!

I live near Seymour Johnson and it's obviously not uncommon to hear F15s blasting over.

The sound they make when they throttle down into a turn is bad ass.

One time some guy must have been a newb or a ass and he was flying way too low.

There was a low hum, then a shoop, and then a Apocalyptic blasting crackling sound.

People, birds, cats and dogs were like "WTF?".


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Trumble
06/29/21 8:31:49 PM
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Australia's kinda the default option on account of that NZ citizenship is more or less an automatic pass to enter.

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Prismsblade
06/29/21 8:38:13 PM
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Not sure honestly. Most other english speaking countrys without a decent military likely wont be far behind if the US falls. Be it willingly or unwillingly.

Fighting may be our only real option then.


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Dark_SilverX
06/29/21 8:38:51 PM
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China or Israel

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ThyCorndog
06/29/21 8:39:13 PM
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canada is only a few hours drive away

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ModLogic
06/29/21 8:39:51 PM
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most avg americans probably wont even notice a difference with a regime change

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Zikten
06/29/21 8:40:08 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Not sure honestly. Most other english speaking countrys without a decent military likely wont be far behind if the US falls. Be it willingly or unwillingly.

Fighting may be our only real option then.


If that is the case, it makes more sense to flee to UK and regroup with the British military than to throw your life away doing a one man war against an army
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Kombucha
06/29/21 8:41:06 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
canada is only a few hours drive away

This.

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Prismsblade
06/29/21 8:54:11 PM
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Zikten posted...
If that is the case, it makes more sense to flee to UK and regroup with the British military than to throw your life away doing a one man war against an army
I'd assume that many other like minded Americans would soon follow. As even a small minority of us on top of things would be a pretty significant amount with our population size and all.

That and if I had any attention of running and abandoning my country it'd be when the 2nd amendment is nulled and everyone simply shrugs and accepts it.

If reality if that happens, no joke, then is the time to run, like, weeks ago.

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hockeybub89
06/29/21 8:55:51 PM
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This could happen as soon as the next presidential election.

I guess Canada is the easiest.

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