Current Events > The 'Great Resignation' gains steam as return-to-work plans take effect

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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/29/more-people-plan-to-quit-as-return-to-work-plans-go-into-effect-.html

In whats been dubbed the Great Resignation, a whopping 95% of workers are now considering changing jobs, and 92% are even willing to switch industries to find the right position, according to a recent report by jobs site Monster.com. Most say burnout and lack of growth opportunities are what is driving the shift, Monster found. When we were in the throes of the pandemic, so many people buckled down, now what were seeing is a sign of confidence, said Scott Blumsack, senior vice president of research and insights at Monster.

Already, a record 4 million people quit their jobs in April alone, according to the Labor Department. At the same time, there are more opportunities for job seekers with the Labor Department reporting a record 9.3 million job openings as of the latest tally. The number of open jobs is higher than ever before, thats absolutely contributing to why candidates are putting their toe in the water to see whats out there, Blumsack said. As Covid vaccinations gain steam, so are plans to return to the office, which is driving more workers to consider their options.



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I can't believe this is real. So many people had a taste of life that wasn't so shit, and they literally can't go back, and it might actually force things to change for the better.

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roaring 20s last century: great depression starts; millions lose jobs
roaring 20s this century: great pandemic starts; millions quit jobs

You love to see it.

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The silver lining of the pandemic is the fact that is caused people to wake up and understand that the old M/F 9-5 in person office presence is completely outdated and unnecessary.

The only ones demanding employees return to office are the ones who sign the leases for massive megabuildings downtown and are upset that they're all empty.

Time to move on. Remote work should have been the way of the future for years now and the pandemic just proved it.

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Umbreon posted...

You love to see it.

For real, we needed a shake-up.

There is actually a slight chance that...if one dude either quit or got fired..over the last two days, I will have, at one of my jobs a Boomer-Free work environment. ~I'm so ready for it!
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I love it

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I took a job that I'm not really happy in and I don't know what the right course of action is.

Frankly I actually want to try my hand in a different career field but I have a sunk-cost about where I am currently. I want to try business development but I have no background in the field so I don't know who'd ever bother hiring me.

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95% considering quitting. I doubt even 5% actually will. Hopefully I'm wrong.

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Seems like a terribly bad idea to quit right around the time that extended unemployment is ending and the number of job candidates is going to skyrocket, drastically increasing the amount of competition out there during the application process, but maybe those folks have a plan for that.

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PatrickMahomes posted...

The silver lining of the pandemic is the fact that is caused people to wake up and understand that the old M/F 9-5 in person office presence is completely outdated and unnecessary.

The only ones demanding employees return to office are the ones who sign the leases for massive megabuildings downtown and are upset that they're all empty.

Time to move on. Remote work should have been the way of the future for years now and the pandemic just proved it.

excellent post

PatrickMahomes posted...

The only ones demanding employees return to office are the ones who sign the leases for massive megabuildings downtown and are upset that they're all empty.

It's going to be interesting indeed when there's no longer any good reason to leave the suburbs, at all.

PatrickMahomes posted...

The silver lining of the pandemic is the fact that is caused people to wake up and understand that the old M/F 9-5 in person office presence is completely outdated and unnecessary.

The only ones demanding employees return to office are the ones who sign the leases for massive megabuildings downtown and are upset that they're all empty.

Time to move on. Remote work should have been the way of the future for years now and the pandemic just proved it.

Can confirm. My company signed a lease to occupy an additional floor in our building, then COVID hit. I am positive that management wants to get everyone back to help justify the cost of the new lease that they cant get out of now.

Execs just dont really grasp the concept of sunk costs, or are too defeated or stubborn to accept that they exist and just move forward.

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i'm thinking of changing jobs so i can work from home all the time. i've had a taste of the sweet life and i don't want to give it up.

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Personally I like working in an office but I have ADD and have always chalked it up to having a more focused atmosphere keeping me more on-task.

I do like having the option, though, especially when considering distance to the office (right now I'm pretty close to my office, which is nice, but I just don't like what I'm doing here).

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s0nicfan posted...

Seems like a terribly bad idea to quit right around the time that extended unemployment is ending and the number of job candidates is going to skyrocket, drastically increasing the amount of competition out there during the application process, but maybe those folks have a plan for that.

it's probably because the type of workers quitting is hugely different from the workers on unemployment

this is more a case of people who might have changed jobs for a pay raise over the last 1.5 years all doing it at once

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Yep if you were still working during covid you were working remotely or had no choice and stuck with it. Good time to come to terms with your job with the changes to the world during covid.


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i mean really every worker should be thinking about quitting their job after about a year

in high skill lines of work your value typically rises 15% yoy but your salary rises 5% or less typically

if you ask your boss for a 10% raise and they give it to you without negotiating, safe bet that you're underpaid by more than that

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I mean I've considered it for a minute but it is a terrible idea because I'm in a good job. I'm probably part of that 95 percent.


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s0nicfan posted...

Seems like a terribly bad idea to quit right around the time that extended unemployment is ending and the number of job candidates is going to skyrocket, drastically increasing the amount of competition out there during the application process, but maybe those folks have a plan for that.

We Americans aren't known for planning ahead or critical thinking.

It is soul crushing how many people have treated the last year or so as a paid vacation with no foresight as to what they're going to do when benefits end. Thats a level of stupid I just can't even comprehend. Many even took it as a great time to buy a boat or motorcycle lmao. Whole lot of barely used boats and motorcycles popping up for sale now

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Questionmarktarius posted...

It's going to be interesting indeed when there's no longer any good reason to leave the suburbs, at all.

I slightly disagree with this, a vibrant living downtown is an important part of human culture.
You just have to do it right.

But Suburban sprawl is not the way, and in fact, I see it as a form of bigotry or intolerance.
Everyone is living in the same house with the same basic income, and probably racial background.

~That is not the answer. Plus 9 times out of 10 you are probably destroying viable farm land.
'Bed Room' communities are not the answer.

It very much what made the Boomers The Boomers that we know and love today.
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I like to own a lot of property inside a house, thank you very much.

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SiO4 posted...

You just have to do it right.

go on...

Questionmarktarius posted...

go on...

You have workspaces on the street levels, and living spaces up above.
The whole commuting to work 80 miles round-trip thing has not been working.
Do you really think that when the auto was invented people would look at modern traffic jams, and deaths as a reasonable thing?

One of my life goals has been to live within minutes of my jobs.
I'm kinda lucky though, I live in a town with a viable downtown....but it wasn't always like, there was a huge dip in the 80's.

But it can be done. It's actually very nice to see people walking the streets, before and after work, and just visiting, or just on a lunch break.

It can be done, and was done for years....we just gave up our civic structure for cars, and it shows.
All of that has had it's effect on the mental health of this nation.
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SiO4 posted...

You have workspaces on the street levels, and living spaces up above.
The whole commuting to work 80 miles round-trip thing has not been working.
Do you really think that when the auto was invented people would look at modern traffic jams, and deaths as a reasonable thing?

One of my life goals has been to live within minutes of my jobs.
I'm kinda lucky though, I live in a town with a viable downtown....but it wasn't always like, there was a huge dip in the 80's.

But it can be done. It's actually very nice to see people walking the streets, before and after work, and just visiting, or just on a lunch break.

It can be done, and was done for years....we just gave up our civic structure for cars, and it shows.
All of that has had it's effect on the mental health of this nation.

I think a good society has a mix of urban, suburban, and rural communities. I have no issues with urban communities like what you described, but personally, I grew up in a community like that and I hated it. I didn't even know suburban and rural communities existed as a child; I just knew I didn't like my current living environment.

As I got older I moved to a suburban area and I liked it more. Then I moved to a rural area and like it more as well. I currently live in a 2 acre property on a county road and I love it. You could never make me live in a dense city again. Yet my dad, who literally raised me, couldn't live anywhere else but a city.

Different people have different tastes. I think having options is good.

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Not excuse to not have a job though

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Zanzenburger posted...

I think a good society has a mix of urban, suburban, and rural communities. I have no issues with urban communities like what you described, but personally, I grew up in a community like that and I hated it. I didn't even know suburban and rural communities existed as a child; I just knew I didn't like my current living environment.

As I got older I moved to a suburban area and I liked it more. Then I moved to a rural area and like it more as well. I currently live in a 2 acre property on a county road and I love it. You could never make me live in a dense city again. Yet my dad, who literally raised me, couldn't live anywhere else but a city.

Different people have different tastes. I think having options is good.

No, I understand what you are saying...be we've also been conditioned to live in a Levittown situation.
Which I do not find healthy.

Rural is fine....but 'bedroom' communities can fuck off.

Never having any interaction with someone who is not just like you is not a good thing.
And that is what the suburbs are. I'd rather die than live in a gated community, but that's a whole other level.
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Guide posted...

I can't believe this is real. So many people had a taste of life that wasn't so shit, and they literally can't go back, and it might actually force things to change for the better.

lmfao you actually think anything's going to get better
roflmao holy shit how could anyone be this naive

LinkDaLunatic posted...

lmfao you actually think anything's going to get better
roflmao holy shit how could anyone be this naive

Well, I mean once the boomers are gone.
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SiO4 posted...

Well, I mean once the boomers are gone.

Do you really want gen-x in charge?

Questionmarktarius posted...

Do you really want gen-x in charge?

Yes!!

Though we're too smart for that....We're kinda fucked tbh.
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SiO4 posted...

Never having any interaction with someone who is not just like you is not a good thing.

This is just a stereotype (that's probably true in some areas lol); there's nothing about the suburbs that's inherently this way. In fact, making suburbia's slice of the pie larger would only decrease this trend.

I mean, I live in the suburbs and my neighbors are an older divorced white woman caring for her elderly mom and a black/white gay couple with adopted twins.

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marthsheretoo posted...

This is just a stereotype (that's probably true in some areas lol); there's nothing about the suburbs that's inherently this way. In fact, making suburbia's slice of the pie larger would only decrease this trend.

I mean, I live in the suburbs and my neighbors are an older divorced white woman caring for her elderly mom and a black/white gay couple with adopted twins.

Right? Guess I should start harassing the Somali family down the road, the gay openly gay couples, the blacks, the Asian family that owns the local Chinese place, the Polish immigrants that moved here and started a caf etc etc.
I mean sure, the rest of the town would call me out and ostracize me as a shit stain racist, but I'd hate to destroy the ignorant narrative of some rando person on a dying message board who's probably never lived anywhere that doesn't have 3 Chick fil a's and a Starbucks on every corner

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marthsheretoo posted...

This is just a stereotype (that's probably true in some areas lol); there's nothing about the suburbs that's inherently this way. In fact, making suburbia's slice of the pie larger would only decrease this trend.

I mean, I live in the suburbs and my neighbors are an older divorced white woman caring for her elderly mom and a black/white gay couple with adopted twins.

Define the suburbs?

If you are on the outskirts of town, that is one thing...
But 'bedroom communities' or developments, are designed to be exclusive.
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SiO4 posted...

Define the suburbs?

If you are on the outskirts of town, that is one thing...
But 'bedroom communities' or developments, are designed to be exclusive.

Ehh maybe at one point, but with people moving in and out of states many bedroom communities have diversified. Many gated communities have all sorts of middle class people of all races and walks of life.

I lived in one briefly and I felt like there were all sorts of diverse families.

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Zanzenburger posted...

Ehh maybe at one point, but with people moving in and out of states many bedroom communities have diversified. Many gated communities have all sorts of middle class people of all races and walks of life.

I lived in one briefly and I felt like there were all sorts of diverse families.

Theres a Nigerian family in mine. Pretty nice people too.


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