Current Events > Is Bob Dylan overrated?

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I have not been very impressed with anything he has done.
Change my mind...

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Agreed. Piano Man is crap.

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Yes, most classic artists of days past are. I dont deny his talent but when somebody with no nostalgia for these artists listens to them you can see they arent the gods they are made out to be.

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He sold out.

I never got what people liked about him. And I like old stuff. Also I hear his concerts actually suck ass.

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Both my dad and uncle told me that Dylan was considered (in the modern nomenclature) "hipster trash" back when they were young.

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No, he should be rated even higher just for ruining the Beatles

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He's one of my favourite artists, and I absolutely love his music.

I'm sure that some of his lyrics are overanalyzed, though.

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Idk any songs of his that I like. I dislike his voice

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His voice is fucking atrocious to listen to.

SSJPurple posted...

Yes, most classic artists of days past are. I dont deny his talent but when somebody with no nostalgia for these artists listens to them you can see they arent the gods they are made out to be.

one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen

@SSJPurple

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Hurricaine is fucking amazing. Other than that I've never been a fan. Hard to judge though when I wasn't even alive when he was originally considered a songwriting genius.

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In 1975 I walked Bob Dylan up on stage--who the fuck are you?

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Mailboxes drip like lampposts in the twisted birth canal of the coliseum
Rim job fairy teapots mask the temper tantrum
O' say can you see 'em
Stuffed cabbage is the darling of the Laundromat
'N the sorority mascot sat with the lumberjack
Pressing passing stinging half synthetic fabrication of his time
The mouse with the overbite explained how the rabbits were ensnared
'N the skinny scanty sylph trashed the apothecary diplomat
Inside the three-eyed monkey within inches of his toaster oven life

In my mind
I'm half blind
My inner ref
Is mostly deaf
I'm smell impaired
If you cared
My sense of taste is wasted on the phosphorescent orange peels of San Francisco axe-encrusted frenzy

How could you not like Bob Dylan?

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SSJPurple posted...

Yes, most classic artists of days past are. I dont deny his talent but when somebody with no nostalgia for these artists listens to them you can see they arent the gods they are made out to be.

I agree with the premise but it is all about nostalgia.

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Writes great lyrics, awful singer.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u5x9pdInTU


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trappedunderice posted...

His voice is fucking atrocious to listen to.

One of the most boring one-line takes for the last 50 years.
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RedJackson posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u5x9pdInTU

LMAO, I was wondering what those lyrics you posted were from.

....Red, if you are a Beatles fan you must watch The Rutles!!
~That...which turns out to be the first 'mocumentary' is Comedy Gold


I know you know what you know
but you should know by now that you're not me
Talk about a month of Sundays
Toffee nosed wet weekend as far as I can see
Hey diddle diddle
The cat and the fiddle
Piggy in the middle
Doo-a-poo-poo

Bible punching heavyweight
evangelistic boxing kangaroo
Orangutang and anaconda
Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse
even Pluto too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKezWLZqRik
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RedJackson posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u5x9pdInTU

Fucking beat me to it.

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kind of

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I like a couple of his songs, but mostly I don't get the hype. I won't call him overrated though. I kinda don't like calling things that especially music and more so especially classic rock/whatever artists because too many are getting called that undeservedly lately.

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Yes, very much so.

Opisseus posted...

I dislike his voice

It's grating.


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https://youtu.be/1iHhWh9FtsQ

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Pandamonic posted...

Yes, very much so.

It's grating.

My man! He sounds like a year 40 alcoholic pinching his nose lmao

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Thou shalt speak no ill of any Wilbury

Opisseus posted...

Idk any songs of his that I like. I dislike his voice

i mean you have bad taste in general

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GhettoFlip posted...

i mean you have bad taste in general

Oh, that was kinda mean

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I once heard someone say hes a great songwriter but his songs are usually better as performed by other people. I havent listened to much of him, but I think thats a decent opinion.

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Big_Nabendu posted...

https://youtu.be/1iHhWh9FtsQ

Goodbye's too good a word, babe
So I just say fare thee well
I ain't sayin' you treated me unkind
You could have done better but I don't mind
You just kinda wasted my precious time
But don't think twice, it's all right

Spanish Boots of Spanish Leather, is another one.
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Opisseus posted...

My man! He sounds like a year 40 alcoholic pinching his nose lmao

I wish so bad the internet had his rendition of Moonshiner.
It's absolutely gorgeous.

All I can find is covers.
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Was never a huge fan tbh

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Opisseus posted...

My man! He sounds like a year 40 alcoholic pinching his nose lmao

Lmao yes, it's like he got in a couple of bar fights, broke his nose a couple of times and it never quite healed right.

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Pandamonic posted...

Lmao yes, it's like he got in a couple of bar fights, broke his nose a couple of times and it never quite healed right.

That could be taken as a Jewish slur...just sayin' ((I don't think that is what you are doing though))

You are entitled to your opinion about his voice, but what do you think about his lyrics?
He is a songwriter first. That's where he's at.

It is notable that so many people have had hits with his songs, but he to this day has never had a #1 hit.
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Pandamonic posted...

Lmao yes, it's like he got in a couple of bar fights, broke his nose a couple of times and it never quite healed right.

yea I just cannot fathom what people get outta that, but that's music for ya

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Great songwriter, horrible musician. His existence is important though because better musicians cover his songs all the time to make them actually sound good.

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GhettoFlip posted...

one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen

@SSJPurple

Did you read it? I never said they werent good or denied their talent, just that they are generally overrated by the people who grew up with it.

Elvis, the Beatles, Michael Jackson. All great artists. The best their time respective times in fact but they arent untouchable music gods above everybody else.

I myself am guilty of it. I love Jimi Hendrix, but I can acknowledge that people younger than me who dont think he was as great as I do arent necessarily wrong. Music is extremely subjective.

I hope you can understand

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SSJPurple posted...

The best their time respective times in fact but they arent untouchable music gods above everybody else.

That would be J.S.Bach.
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SiO4 posted...

That could be taken as a Jewish slur...just sayin' ((I don't think that is what you are doing though))

Really? I had no idea, wasn't my intention at all. Sorry if I offended anyone.

SiO4 posted...

You are entitled to your opinion about his voice, but what do you think about his lyrics?
He is a songwriter first. That's where he's at.

He's a good songwriter, it's true. He writes some good lyrics, he obviously has talent in that regard. It's just that I feel that he shouldn't perform his own songs, especially with that voice.
Write the lyrics, write the music, and then give the song to someone who can elevate it to a another level.

SiO4 posted...

It is notable that so many people have had hits with his songs, but he to this day has never had a #1 hit.

I think it has something to do with my previous point. He can write a damn good song, but after it's written he should never touch it again but instead give it to someone else.

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Pandamonic posted...

Really? I had no idea, wasn't my intention at all. Sorry if I offended anyone.

Ya, I totally know you did not mean that. But he was born Jewish...so ya...might not wanna... >_>

Pandamonic posted...

He's a good songwriter, it's true. He writes some good lyrics, he obviously has talent in that regard. It's just that I feel that he shouldn't perform his own songs, especially with that voice.
Write the lyrics, write the music, and then give the song to someone who can elevate it to a another level.

I think people miss the point that he is a Folk singer...he was not setting out to be a pop singer.

Also, I think people just bought into the 'he can't sing' meme...which I suppose we could call it, and just ran with it.

I just hate overused one-liners.

I would try to post something....and this what pisses me off about him....he's real bad about allowing his songs on the internet. He's certainly made his money, he should let us share them more.
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SiO4 posted...

Ya, I totally know you did not mean that. But he was born Jewish...so ya...might not wanna... >_>

Well that shows what I know, I had no idea he was jewish lol

But on the voice thing, lotta people don't like it, lotta people do.
I kinda have the same with death metal. Some people that like metal refuse to listen to death metal because of the vocals. I get why, it's not for everyone. Personally though, I love it. It suits the music and I think it sounds awesome. I've been trying to get some metal-loving friends of mine to listen to some bands, but they can't do it because of the vocals, even though they quite like the music.

That's the thing for me with Dylan, some of his songs I've heard over the years I like musically. I just can't handle the vocals.

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Pandamonic posted...

Well that shows what I know, I had no idea he was jewish lol

But on the voice thing, lotta people don't like it, lotta people do.
I kinda have the same with death metal. Some people that like metal refuse to listen to death metal because of the vocals. I get why, it's not for everyone. Personally though, I love it. It suits the music and I think it sounds awesome. I've been trying to get some metal-loving friends of mine to listen to some bands, but they can't do it because of the vocals, even though they quite like the music.

That's the thing for me with Dylan, some of his songs I've heard over the years I like musically. I just can't handle the vocals.

That's odd...

First my older brother killed whatever chance I had to get into death metal. I was burnt out on that long before.

But as for Bob, one of his selling points was that he sounded like an old man on his first album.
For the record, no pun intended...I was brought up in that folk music scene.

This song is kinda funny you've gotta admit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWap9aEguI8
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SiO4 posted...

I wish so bad the internet had his rendition of Moonshiner.
It's absolutely gorgeous.

All I can find is covers.

Tbf, the one from I'm Not There is pretty great. Hell, most of the covers from that are great (especially All Along the Watchtower).

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He's one of my favorite artists, but yeah, some people overrate him.

IMO, he's one of the greatest song writers of all time. I think his voice sounds great on most of his songs, so I don't know what the big deal about that is. I think he's a bigger singer than Johnny Cash, for example. He's been relevant the whole time as well, still putting out good songs

https://youtu.be/aIF0gkqvaQ0

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Total_Lost2 posted...

Tbf, the one from I'm Not There is pretty great. Hell, most of the covers from that are great (especially All Along the Watchtower).

I love Hendrix and he was at one with his Guitar, but that one doesn't do it for me.
His version of The National Anthem is one of, if not, my all-time favorites, however. \

Bad_Mojo posted...

He's one of my favorite artists, but yeah, some people overrate him.

IMO, he's one of the greatest song writers of all time. I think his voice sounds great on most of his songs, so I don't know what the big deal about that is. I think he's a bigger singer than Johnny Cash, for example. He's been relevant the whole time as well, still putting out good songs

https://youtu.be/aIF0gkqvaQ0

Honestly, I find Neil Young's voice waaay more annoying.
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If anything hes underrated. He has 40+ years of music that no one pays attention to, and most of its good.

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SiO4 posted...

LMAO, I was wondering what those lyrics you posted were from.

....Red, if you are a Beatles fan you must watch The Rutles!!
~That...which turns out to be the first 'mocumentary' is Comedy Gold

I know you know what you know
but you should know by now that you're not me
Talk about a month of Sundays
Toffee nosed wet weekend as far as I can see
Hey diddle diddle
The cat and the fiddle
Piggy in the middle
Doo-a-poo-poo

Bible punching heavyweight
evangelistic boxing kangaroo
Orangutang and anaconda
Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse
even Pluto too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKezWLZqRik

Lmfao bruh this is totally amazing.. I've never seen this

Tragical Mystery Tour

Opisseus posted...

Oh, that was kinda mean

He's not wrong though - you don't even like villains in movies lmao

Pandamonic posted...

He's a good songwriter, it's true. He writes some good lyrics, he obviously has talent in that regard. It's just that I feel that he shouldn't perform his own songs, especially with that voice.
Write the lyrics, write the music, and then give the song to someone who can elevate it to a another level.

There have been really outstanding covers of songs honestly.. Joan Baez absolutely makes them sound beautiful.

But I don't think it's quite the same feel as Dylan doing them.. like it's the same with Dave Mustaine from Megadeth. It's technically not a good voice but it fits the tunes. I think if you took the melodies and had someone else sing them they're fantastic, but giving someone those words knowing they don't have that perspective like Dylan does who HAS traveled that sort of journey.. it's weird. I can believe it alot more from him than I could from Baez, but Joan Baez really sings so well and is of Dylan's group that it does force another path of art you can look at the same song from.

Music is subjective of course. I guess people didn't really like Robert Plants voice when he came out too lol.

SiO4 posted...

I would try to post something....and this what pisses me off about him....he's real bad about allowing his songs on the internet. He's certainly made his money, he should let us share them more.

I spent months trying to find Black Diamond Bay on YT and one day it was suddenly just there.. whoever runs Jimi Hendrix's estate is also fucking ridiculous -.-


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SiO4 posted...

Honestly, I find Neil Young's voice waaay more annoying.

THIS so HARD

his guitar playing during live sets is absolutely underrated though, like I didn't think I could hear something like Hendrix come out of the guy but he sure did channel exactly that energy..


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I was raised in the country, I been workin in the town
I been in trouble ever since I set my suitcase down
Got nothing for you, I had nothing before
Dont even have anything for myself anymore
Sky full of fire, pain pourin down
Nothing you can sell me, Ill see you around
All my powers of expression and thoughts so sublime
Could never do you justice in reason or rhyme
Only one thing I did wrong
Stayed in Mississippi a day too long



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MrMelodramatic posted...

If anything hes underrated. He has 40+ years of music that no one pays attention to, and most of its good.

Yeah, this. He's had so many great songs that nobody talks about. Yeah, we have all 20 of the really famous ones, the other 20 or so that album listeners know, but that's just the first few albums. He's got over 30 now, I think, and a lot of them have great songs on them.

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