Current Events > Fifth Catholic Church burning under investigation, this time in Alberta.

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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/canada/article-another-fire-at-catholic-church-under-investigation-this-time-in/
Police are investigating a fire at a Roman Catholic church in an Indigenous community east of Calgary.
RCMP say officers were called to the Siksika First Nation Catholic Church shortly after midnight.
They say no one was in the church and the Siksika fire department was able to put out the flames before there was any major damage.
Police in British Columbia are investigating four recent fires that destroyed Catholic churches in that provinces southern Interior, and Catholic churches in Saskatoon and Edmonton were vandalized with red paint in the past week.
Hundreds of unmarked graves have bee recently discovered at two former residential schools one in B.C. and the other in Saskatchewan that were operated by a Catholic religious order.
RCMP say a preliminary investigation indicates the fire at the Siksika First Nation was deliberately set.
Theyre asking anyone with information to come forward.

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Burning churches 'till they dirt, walk off and throw up the set


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Fucked up

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It's what Jesus would have wanted tbqh

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Jediknight moved to Canada.

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Another one...
https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/catholic-church-north-of-edmonton-destroyed-in-fire-1.5491294

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Middle hope posted...

Fucked up

It's fucked up what the Catholic Church did in Canada to native children

Alucard188 posted...

Jediknight moved to Canada.

Shit
He's probably out by now. That was forever ago

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Jiek_Fafn posted...

Shit
He's probably out by now. That was forever ago

He got out years ago. He didn't get THAT long a sentence. I think he was only prison for like a year. And this was almost 20 years ago

He made a statement to CE after he got out and said he is more mellow now

This is probably in response to the mass graves of indigenous children they've been finding in residential schools across the nation. They've unearthed close to one thousand dead children in these schools.

When I first heard about the church burnings I was like "wow that's fucked up". But considering the context, I honestly don't blame people for retaliating like this. Indigenous children were taken from their people, placed in these schools where they were mistreated and forcibly assimilated into the Christian benchmark of white Canada, and we're now discovering that hundreds of children - at least - died at these schools.

A thousand children, separated from their home and their culture, mistreated and left to die before being buried in mass graves and being covered up as if they never existed. Almost certainly more than that. I'd be fucking furious too.

So yeah, fuck the Catholic church and let the churches burn. The atrocities committed against the indigenous people of Canada are undeniably, objectively worse.

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Good. The churches have murdered so many people throughout history.

You are talking about burning down a communities place of worship because of something that happened generations ago and that many other religions and the government of Canada actively participated in.

Should they burn down city hall too?

Atralis posted...

You are talking about burning down a communities place of worship because of something that happened generations ago and that many other religions and the government of Canada actively participated in.

Should they burn down city hall too?

Something that the church has never apologized for or done anything to make up for it

Fuck them

Atralis posted...

because of something that happened generations ago

1996

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Oh no.

Anyway.

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Middle hope posted...

Fucked up

Nope

try again

Zikten posted...

Something that the church has never apologized for or done anything to make up for it

Fuck them

The pope has apologized for this.

This entire policy of removing the kids and sending them to boarding schools run by churches in most cases (not just catholic) was a policy of the Canadian government.

Atralis posted...

The pope has apologized for this.

This entire policy of removing the kids and sending them to boarding schools run by churches in most cases (not just catholic) was a policy of the Canadian government.

Whose policy was it to bury them in unmarked graves under the school?

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Atralis posted...

You are talking about burning down a communities place of worship because of something that happened generations ago and that many other religions and the government of Canada actively participated in.

Should they burn down city hall too?

I'm talking about a community retaliating against an institution that buried undocumented native children in mass graves for decades, because the neglect or outright abuse levelled at those children by that institution led to their deaths. Not to mention the thousands of people who survived, but who now live with intense trauma stemming from their treatment in those facilities.

Get the fuck outta here with that "community's place of worship" horseshit. Faithful Catholics will find a way to worship without an ornate building with a bunch of fancy trinkets. Faith comes from within. But the wounds inflicted on the indigenous population of Canada will never heal, both in regards to the people who experienced those conditions and survived, and to the people who died there.

You can build a new church. Catholicism is in no real risk, their teachings and the faith of their flocks are unharmed. You can't get those children back, you can't fix the people who survived the attempt to forcibly assimilate them through abuse and squalid living conditions, and you can't heal the damage done to indigenous culture through the meddling of the Catholic church.

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Atralis posted...

You are talking about burning down a communities place of worship because of something that happened generations ago and that many other religions and the government of Canada actively participated in.

Should they burn down city hall too?

All of these churches are on native land, it's a little different

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MrMallard posted...

I'm talking about a community retaliating against an institution that buried undocumented native children in mass graves for decades, because the neglect or outright abuse levelled at those children by that institution led to their deaths. Not to mention the thousands of people who survived, but who now live with intense trauma stemming from their treatment in those facilities.

Get the fuck outta here with that "community's place of worship" horseshit. Faithful Catholics will find a way to worship without an ornate building with a bunch of fancy trinkets. Faith comes from within. But the wounds inflicted on the indigenous population of Canada will never heal, both in regards to the people who experienced those conditions and survived, and to the people who died there.

You can build a new church. Catholicism is in no real risk, their teachings and the faith of their flocks are unharmed. You can't get those children back, you can't fix the people who survived the attempt to forcibly assimilate them through abuse and squalid living conditions, and you can't heal the damage done to indigenous culture through the meddling of the Catholic church.

What about members of the native community that are catholic and had their church burned down?

And I'll reiterate that this was the policy of the government of Canada but instead of pointing the finger at Canada and the church many of you are pointing it exclusively at the Church.

And honestly, yeah. The Canadian government deserves just as much flack for this. This was government policy.

The Catholic church and the Canadian government deserve to face the full backlash of the nation's people for mandating this. Not for "letting" this happen - for being directly responsible for these atrocities being committed.

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Good.
Fuck the catholic church. They deserve any and all backlash for what they did to those indigenous children and their families.


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More graves were discovered today.
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/182-unmarked-graves-found-near-former-residential-school-outside-cranbrook-b-c-1.5491694

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Atralis posted...

What about members of the native community that are catholic and had their church burned down?

And I'll reiterate that this was the policy of the government of Canada but instead of pointing the finger at Canada and the church many of you are pointing it exclusively at the Church.

They'll find a way to practice their faith, because Catholicism is never in short supply. What Catholicism and government mandate destroyed in regards to Canada's indigenous population will always cut deeper than a couple of burned churches, and I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that most indigenous people would probably agree.

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Atralis posted...

You are talking about burning down a communities place of worship because of something that happened generations ago and that many other religions and the government of Canada actively participated in.

I mean, this should probably be thought of more as a final straw than as the entire reason. Churches tend to be pretty shitty and do a lot of harm wherever they go, to just about everyone they touch.

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Njolk posted...

All of these churches are on native land, it's a little different

You think that makes it better? You are talking about natives having their churches burned down? Are you going to call then race traitors or something for being practicing Catholics?

Atralis posted...

You are talking about natives having their churches burned down

By indigenous people in retaliation for the atrocities committed against them by the Catholic church, not some roving anti-catholic anti-indigenous hate squad.

Atralis posted...

Are you could to call then race traitors or something for being practicing Catholics?

People are free to follow whichever religion they want. No-one's a race traitor for their faith, stop putting words into people's mouths.

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I'm just here to ready the edgelord responses.

MrMallard posted...

By indigenous people who are pissed about Catholic institutions being present in their land, in retaliation for the atrocities committed against their people and their culture by the Catholic church, not some roving anti-catholic anti-indigenous hate squad who seeks to deprive Indigenous people of the Catholic faith.

People are free to follow whichever religion they want. No-one's a race traitor for their faith, stop putting words into people's mouths.

Native people's aren't a hive mind. People in this topic are supporting one group of natives burning down another group of natives church.

Atralis posted...

Native people's aren't a hive mind. People in this topic are supporting one group of natives burning down another group of natives church.

Is there any information that says these fires are caused by native people? Like 90% of Canada is infuriated about what's happened here.

Proto_Spark posted...

Is there any information that says these fires are caused by native people? Like 90% of Canada is infuriated about what's happened here.

That would be even worse. Some group of white people "helping" by burning down a bunch of churches with native congregations.

Atralis posted...

That would be even worse. Some group of white people "helping" by burning down a bunch of churches with native congregations.

Or maybe, just maybe, folks are pissed off at the church for pulling this kind of shit and finding over 1000 dead kids in unmarked graves is what finally got them to do something about it.

By reading your posts, you come across as someone who's more mad about the destruction of property than more than 1000 dead children DUMPED IN UNMARKED GRAVES.

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MorbidFaithless posted...

It's what Jesus would have wanted tbqh

He probably also would not have wanted a Pope either

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Atralis posted...

The pope has apologized for this.

This entire policy of removing the kids and sending them to boarding schools run by churches in most cases (not just catholic) was a policy of the Canadian government.

Did the pope apologize? Didnt he just say he would discuss with the Indigenous leaders later and then come to Canada to apologize?

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Atralis posted...

You are talking about burning down a communities place of worship because of something that happened generations ago and that many other religions and the government of Canada actively participated in.

Should they burn down city hall too?

Yes.
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https://twitter.com/AndersenAngus/status/1398831848575442945?s=19

"Beat the Native out of them, so the only thing remaining is their blood." This was the edict of the Catholic Church. Forgive me if I don't cry for these places of worship that get burned down because the Catholic Church is only interested in subjugation and domination of indigenous peoples.

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I don't care all that much about the churches but I'm skeptical as to what this is supposed to achieve

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Doom_Art posted...

I don't care all that much about the churches but I'm skeptical as to what this is supposed to achieve

Catharsis. Look at the public displays of emotion that have gone on in the country over the last fortnight.



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Hope they catch the people doing this. Fuck the church and fuck the government for what it has done, but this isn't the way to help. Someone is gonna get hurt or killed soon because someone thinks arson is a good idea.

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Catholic church is fucked up but please stop fucking trying to normalize political violence
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Got warned for my first post in this thread because making posts in support of people burning down a church falls under offensive posting.

So please allow me to share a post without explicitly stating my preference one way or the other for the destruction of Catholic churches:



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Alucard188 posted...

Catharsis. Look at the public displays of emotion that have gone on in the country over the last fortnight.

MrMallard posted...

Got warned for my first post in this thread because making posts in support of people burning down a church falls under offensive posting.

So please allow me to share a post without explicitly stating my preference one way or the other for the destruction of Catholic churches:

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