Poll of the Day > I love video games, but they DEFINITELY make the world worse lol

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Locke90 06/29/21 4:21:45 AM #52:	Ninja4820 posted... Just wondering how many other people agree with me on this. I feel like there's a lot, LOT of people who would probably be doing more productive things with their lives. Sure, games are fun, but there's better, healthier ways to have fun. I can't really think of anything which I was able to get out of a video game that I couldn't -- hypothetically at least -- have gotten somewhere better. I've also seen many people who absolutely use video games as a distraction for avoiding real problems. I'm not sure they'd be able to do that so easily if their hobby was a sport, an instrument, wood carving, etc. Games are just way more addictive and time consuming now than they used to be. Although I will say, I do think games are at least better than watching TV since they're at least relatively engaging. Again, I love me some games, but I place them squarely in the "tolerable vice" category of my life lol. how the hell is going to work day after day being miserable because you cant enjoy your life till your twilight years is ever considered being productive, also fuck that Id rather be happy . --- Friend code 3222-6836-6888 <cite>Locke90 posted [p:955551530] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>Ninja4820 posted... </cite> <quote>Just wondering how many other people agree with me on this. I feel like there's a lot, LOT of people who would probably be doing more productive things with their lives. Sure, games are fun, but there's better, healthier ways to have fun. I can't really think of anything which I was able to get out of a video game that I couldn't -- hypothetically at least -- have gotten somewhere better. I've also seen many people who absolutely use video games as a distraction for avoiding real problems. I'm not sure they'd be able to do that so easily if their hobby was a sport, an instrument, wood carving, etc. Games are just way more addictive and time consuming now than they used to be. Although I will say, I do think games are at least better than watching TV since they're at least relatively engaging. Again, I love me some games, but I place them squarely in the "tolerable vice" category of my life lol.</quote>how the hell is going to work day after day being miserable because you cant enjoy your life till your twilight years is ever considered being productive, also fuck that Id rather be happy . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ninja4820 06/29/21 10:07:04 AM #53:	Zeus posted... You literally argued for games as a deliberate form of escapism. Alcohol is another deliberate form of escapism. If somebody couldn't get their mind off the world through games when they wanted to think about something else, alcohol would be on the table. So your argument is that if person X is seeking some form of escapism, at least games are better than alcohol? I... guess that could be true? I just have a very hard time imagining a person who would use one instead of the other. Like, yes, I can see they both can be used as forms of escapism, but they seem so radically different that I have a hard time imagining they're fungible. But let's assume for the sake of argument that yes, someone could use video games to escape instead of alcohol -- how often is that the case? The closest parallel I can think of is people using methodone to wean themselves off of heroine. But methodone is a controlled substance, and even still, it became rampantly well known for how often people abused it. If video games are to be considered a good thing because they function as a substitute for some other WORSE thing, then you'd have to ask: (a) how often are people actually making that substitution (b) how often are other people who don't even need it for that purpose abusing it? I have a hard time imagining that the few very fringe cases of people who use it as a legitimately good substitute for something worse outweigh the number of people who just flat out abuse it on its own. Zeus posted... It doesn't have to be "worse", it just has to be on par. Granted, there are certainly a lot of things worse than video games, and I'd be surprised if you can't imagine them. It's not that worse things can't be imagined, it's that it's hard to imagine worse things being realistically pursued. People keep citing things like drugs, alcohol, crime, as worse alternatives. Do you guys really think the average gamer, if he didn't have games, would be doing those things?? But ok, let's address the "it doesn't have to be worse, just on par" argument. Fair enough, that's more interesting I think. Imo watching TV is actually worse (no argument there guys!), web surfing is probably on par, and reading books slides from on par (trashy fiction) to better and better (non-fiction, etc.). I realize there's an element in subjectivity in terms of determining what's "better/best" since we're talking about entertainment, but outside of TV, web surfing, and reading, it just feels like it's (generally) only on the way up. Like, of the people I know who grew out of games, or gave up games or w/e, I exclusively see improvements. I don't know anyone who gave up games as a hobby and took up... I don't know what you guys think could even happen... took up drugs as a hobby? started beating their partner as a hobby? Like, give me something realistic as an alternative here. Zeus posted... That's a fallacious argument since so much gaming is communal. It's basically just a different venue for interaction. And there are certainly a lot of games now that foster communities -- and, to some extent, we're kinda on one now. Gaming can be communal, but the question is how often it truly is, and how meaningful that community is. If it's a gaming club in real life, that wouldn't be so bad (but how many of those exist? outside of occasional college tournaments, I never saw any...). So I assume you're talking about online community. But how good are those, really? I remember being in high school, and using that very same line to my folks, "I'm playing online with other people, I'm not just hanging out alone." To be honest, looking back, I wish I'd replaced that online time with more real life experiences. There were some cool parts, and playing an online game with others is certainly a good alternative if, say, you don't have any real life friends, but for the average person, you'd probably get more out of real life experiences. By way of comparison, every guy I knew played online games a ton when they were in HS/college -- none of the ones I've talked to keep up with online friends from those days at all. I have a few from an old MMO that I added on Facebook but, you know, once we stopped playing that MMO together, we didn't have any other real connection! I'm sure some people do make some great friendships (I've heard some have even met their spouses in this way), but not only do I doubt that it outweighs the people who lose out on better, real life experiences, but I think it's not even close in how skewed it is. Also, yes, people do still belong to clubs, but google an article about that book Bowling Alone -- it's just not even close. Clubs are dying. Notice also that younger generations are well documented as having smaller circles of close friends than older ones. Zeus posted... Not for nothing, but it kinda feels like you're chasing a sense of productivity rather than looking for actual productivity. Hmm, that's an interesting thought. Does more meaningful entertainment arise from some kind of sublated desire for productivity? I think when most people here are speaking about "productivity," they're referring to something which: (a) makes you money (b) improves your skills Obviously, I do think that if you can preserve the element of fun while gaining either of these things, then yes, it's a net gain to switch out gaming for a hobby which achieves either (a) or (b). BUT, that's really not what I'm driving at. I admit that gaming, as entertainment, is for the purpose of having fun, and I have nothing against a hobby that's purely for fun. Even in purely utilitarian terms, I still think it's a loss. The main issues as I see it are that: (CONTINUED NEXT POST) --- Killed 4819 ninjas to get here. <cite>Ninja4820 posted [p:955557064] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>You literally argued for games as a deliberate form of escapism. Alcohol is another deliberate form of escapism. If somebody couldn't get their mind off the world through games when they wanted to think about something else, alcohol would be on the table.</quote> So your argument is that if person X is seeking some form of escapism, at least games are better than alcohol? I... guess that could be true? I just have a very hard time imagining a person who would use one instead of the other. Like, yes, I can see they both can be used as forms of escapism, but they seem so radically different that I have a hard time imagining they're fungible. But let's assume for the sake of argument that yes, someone could use video games to escape instead of alcohol -- how often is that the case? The closest parallel I can think of is people using methodone to wean themselves off of heroine. But methodone is a controlled substance, and even still, it became rampantly well known for how often people abused it. If video games are to be considered a good thing because they function as a substitute for some other WORSE thing, then you'd have to ask: (a) how often are people actually making that substitution (b) how often are other people who don't even need it for that purpose abusing it? I have a hard time imagining that the few very fringe cases of people who use it as a legitimately good substitute for something worse outweigh the number of people who just flat out abuse it on its own. Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>It doesn't have to be "worse", it just has to be on par. Granted, there are certainly a lot of things worse than video games, and I'd be surprised if you can't imagine them.</quote> It's not that worse things can't be imagined, it's that it's hard to imagine worse things being realistically pursued. People keep citing things like drugs, alcohol, crime, as worse alternatives. Do you guys really think the average gamer, if he didn't have games, would be doing those things?? But ok, let's address the "it doesn't have to be worse, just on par" argument. Fair enough, that's more interesting I think. Imo watching TV is actually worse (no argument there guys!), web surfing is probably on par, and reading books slides from on par (trashy fiction) to better and better (non-fiction, etc.). I realize there's an element in subjectivity in terms of determining what's "better/best" since we're talking about entertainment, but outside of TV, web surfing, and reading, it just feels like it's (generally) only on the way up. Like, of the people I know who grew out of games, or gave up games or w/e, I exclusively see improvements. I don't know anyone who gave up games as a hobby and took up... I don't know what you guys think could even happen... took up drugs as a hobby? started beating their partner as a hobby? Like, give me something realistic as an alternative here. Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>That's a fallacious argument since so much gaming is communal. It's basically just a different venue for interaction. And there are certainly a lot of games now that foster communities -- and, to some extent, we're kinda on one now.</quote> Gaming can be communal, but the question is how often it truly is, and how meaningful that community is. If it's a gaming club in real life, that wouldn't be so bad (but how many of those exist? outside of occasional college tournaments, I never saw any...). So I assume you're talking about online community. But how good are those, really? I remember being in high school, and using that very same line to my folks, "I'm playing online with other people, I'm not just hanging out alone." To be honest, looking back, I wish I'd replaced that online time with more real life experiences. There were some cool parts, and playing an online game with others is certainly a good alternative if, say, you don't have any real life friends, but for the average person, you'd probably get more out of real life experiences. By way of comparison, every guy I knew played online games a ton when they were in HS/college -- none of the ones I've talked to keep up with online friends from those days at all. I have a few from an old MMO that I added on Facebook but, you know, once we stopped playing that MMO together, we didn't have any other real connection! I'm sure some people do make some great friendships (I've heard some have even met their spouses in this way), but not only do I doubt that it outweighs the people who lose out on better, real life experiences, but I think it's not even close in how skewed it is. Also, yes, people do still belong to clubs, but google an article about that book Bowling Alone -- it's just not even close. Clubs are dying. Notice also that younger generations are well documented as having smaller circles of close friends than older ones. Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>Not for nothing, but it kinda feels like you're chasing a sense of productivity rather than looking for actual productivity.</quote> Hmm, that's an interesting thought. Does more meaningful entertainment arise from some kind of sublated desire for productivity? I think when most people here are speaking about "productivity," they're referring to something which: (a) makes you money (b) improves your skills Obviously, I do think that if you can preserve the element of fun while gaining either of these things, then yes, it's a net gain to switch out gaming for a hobby which achieves either (a) or (b). BUT, that's really not what I'm driving at. I admit that gaming, as entertainment, is for the purpose of having fun, and I have nothing against a hobby that's purely for fun. Even in purely utilitarian terms, I still think it's a loss. The main issues as I see it are that: (CONTINUED NEXT POST) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ninja4820 06/29/21 10:07:12 AM #54:	(a) Most gaming isn't so fun that you couldn't replace it with something better and not lose out -- like, when's the last time you truly genuinely smiled from playing a game? I really think, for most gamers, it's more of a "time sink" or an addiction than something truly enjoyable. I notice for myself, I'll start a new game, and feel this is ridiculous compulsion to complete it, even if I don't really enjoy it. Sometimes, I'll stop and ask myself, is this a game or is this an obligation? I look at people who have game backlogs, and it looks more like a to-do list of tasks rather than something they're truly pursuing for the fun of it. This is obviously a very subjective thing, but I think people really underestimate the extent to which a lot of gaming is driven by desires OTHER than actually genuine "fun." I look back at Halo LAN parties, laughing and joking with my friends, and it's like, YES, that was FUN. But I look at what most of my gaming experiences like that have been like since then, I look at what the experiences of my friends are who are still into games (and are to a greater extent than I am), and I don't really see that level of joy very often. Finally, I think it goes without saying, but it's also a question of how much someone moderates their gaming, and I do think games have gotten to where they really, really draw people in and consume time to a degree that they didn't in the past -- to the point where I think it's gotten unhealthy. (b) I think there's a lot of delusion around this hobby. I touched on this in the previous section, but I really think there's a lot of people who don't realize how badly gaming eats into the quality of their life. Not saying anyone here fits that bill! (I don't know you guys). And I certainly know some people in real life who manage it as a hobby responsibly, but I would say probably half of all the people I know who game don't realize how its affecting them (or are in denial). --- Killed 4819 ninjas to get here. <cite>Ninja4820 posted [p:955557070] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>(a) Most gaming isn't so fun that you couldn't replace it with something better and not lose out -- like, when's the last time you truly genuinely smiled from playing a game? I really think, for most gamers, it's more of a "time sink" or an addiction than something truly enjoyable. I notice for myself, I'll start a new game, and feel this is ridiculous compulsion to complete it, even if I don't really enjoy it. Sometimes, I'll stop and ask myself, is this a game or is this an obligation? I look at people who have game backlogs, and it looks more like a to-do list of tasks rather than something they're truly pursuing for the fun of it. This is obviously a very subjective thing, but I think people really underestimate the extent to which a lot of gaming is driven by desires OTHER than actually genuine "fun." I look back at Halo LAN parties, laughing and joking with my friends, and it's like, YES, that was FUN. But I look at what most of my gaming experiences like that have been like since then, I look at what the experiences of my friends are who are still into games (and are to a greater extent than I am), and I don't really see that level of joy very often. Finally, I think it goes without saying, but it's also a question of how much someone moderates their gaming, and I do think games have gotten to where they really, really draw people in and consume time to a degree that they didn't in the past -- to the point where I think it's gotten unhealthy. (b) I think there's a lot of delusion around this hobby. I touched on this in the previous section, but I really think there's a lot of people who don't realize how badly gaming eats into the quality of their life. Not saying anyone here fits that bill! (I don't know you guys). And I certainly know some people in real life who manage it as a hobby responsibly, but I would say probably half of all the people I know who game don't realize how its affecting them (or are in denial). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/29/21 10:08:30 AM #55:	potd has really got to stop biting --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:955557112] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>potd has really got to stop biting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 06/29/21 10:11:22 AM #56:	they don't definitely do that. and if you are going to claim there are people who would be doing something more productive w/o them, then there would also be people doing something less productive w/o them --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:955557195] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>they don't definitely do that. and if you are going to claim there are people who would be doing something more productive w/o them, then there would also be people doing something less productive w/o them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ninja4820 06/29/21 10:13:14 AM #57:	DocDelicious posted... I'm of the exact opposite mindset. Even things that are possible for me to do in real life are better in games. Take a simple example like snowboarding. If I play Steep I can go snowboarding year-round regardless of the weather, for a fraction of the cost, and zero downtime. I'm never uncomfortable, I don't get hungry at any point, it doesn't make me tired, and there's no risk of injury. Really?? I'm honestly asking, do you honestly feel that way? I've only gone snowboarding a couple of times, but those couple of times were way more memorable for me than playing SSX Tricky. I also have way better memories from playing sports in high school, as opposed to playing sports video games. I mean, if you honestly feel that way, then cool. Glad you're getting your kicks in, I suppose. But do you really? You don't think there's an element of delusion in this at all? I hope you won't be offended by me speculating about that, but it's just hard to believe. --- Killed 4819 ninjas to get here. <cite>Ninja4820 posted [p:955557243] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>DocDelicious posted... </cite> <quote>I'm of the exact opposite mindset. Even things that are possible for me to do in real life are better in games. Take a simple example like snowboarding. If I play Steep I can go snowboarding year-round regardless of the weather, for a fraction of the cost, and zero downtime. I'm never uncomfortable, I don't get hungry at any point, it doesn't make me tired, and there's no risk of injury.</quote> Really?? I'm honestly asking, do you honestly feel that way? I've only gone snowboarding a couple of times, but those couple of times were way more memorable for me than playing SSX Tricky. I also have way better memories from playing sports in high school, as opposed to playing sports video games. I mean, if you honestly feel that way, then cool. Glad you're getting your kicks in, I suppose. But do you really? You don't think there's an element of delusion in this at all? I hope you won't be offended by me speculating about that, but it's just hard to believe. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Archgoat 06/29/21 11:13:55 AM #58:	"Learning a new language, joining a club, building something, carving something, etc. -- are probably better ways to spend your time" My question is why? Why is this necessarily a better way to spend your time. You may be learning a new skill or meeting some, but that doesn't mean it will have net positive on your life or that you will have any useful application of the new skill or social interaction, other than the enjoyment you get out of it... the same as someone playing a game. I like to paint miniatures, that is probably more "productive" than playing a video game, but it doesn't make it a better way to spend my time. Also, I will say I would probably not have a computer science degree if it was not for video games. Sure, I probably would of gone into another area of study, but it was an inspiration to me to pursue that educational path. I don't disagree with some of your arguments, but I also don't think video games have made the world a worse place. <cite>Archgoat posted [p:955558954] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>"Learning a new language, joining a club, building something, carving something, etc. -- are probably better ways to spend your time" My question is why? Why is this necessarily a better way to spend your time. You may be learning a new skill or meeting some, but that doesn't mean it will have net positive on your life or that you will have any useful application of the new skill or social interaction, other than the enjoyment you get out of it... the same as someone playing a game. I like to paint miniatures, that is probably more "productive" than playing a video game, but it doesn't make it a better way to spend my time. Also, I will say I would probably not have a computer science degree if it was not for video games. Sure, I probably would of gone into another area of study, but it was an inspiration to me to pursue that educational path. I don't disagree with some of your arguments, but I also don't think video games have made the world a worse place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeUsername529 06/29/21 11:34:18 AM #59:	CoorsLight posted... Decreased crime rates and popularity of video games are both so widespread that I don't know how anyone could seriously see something in that correlation What the fuck does this gibberish even mean? Are you actually trying to say "those two things you're saying are somewhat correlated are happening everywhere so they can't be correlated"? Because that would be an extreeeeemely dumb response and I would laugh loudly in your face if that's what you're trying to say. If gaming weren't widespread it wouldn't be able to have a large effect like that. Games existed and were popular in the 80s but crime was still pretty high. Then around the early to mid 90s gaming became extremely popular, particularly with young men, and suddenly things that young men like to do such as drink, have sex, and do dumb potentially destructive shit starts to absolutely nosedive. But no, those are both "so widespread" (whatever the fuck that even means in this context) so they can't have any effect on each other. <cite>SomeUsername529 posted [p:955559563] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>CoorsLight posted... </cite> <quote>Decreased crime rates and popularity of video games are both so widespread that I don't know how anyone could seriously see something in that correlation</quote>What the fuck does this gibberish even mean? Are you actually trying to say "those two things you're saying are somewhat correlated are happening everywhere so they can't be correlated"? Because that would be an extreeeeemely dumb response and I would laugh loudly in your face if that's what you're trying to say. If gaming weren't widespread it wouldn't be able to have a large effect like that. Games existed and were popular in the 80s but crime was still pretty high. Then around the early to mid 90s gaming became extremely popular, particularly with young men, and suddenly things that young men like to do such as drink, have sex, and do dumb potentially destructive shit starts to absolutely nosedive. But no, those are both "so widespread" (whatever the fuck that even means in this context) so they can't have any effect on each other. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Archgoat 06/29/21 11:41:13 AM #60:	SomeUsername529 posted... What the fuck does this gibberish even mean? Are you actually trying to say "those two things you're saying are somewhat correlated are happening everywhere so they can't be correlated"? Because that would be an extreeeeemely dumb response and I would laugh loudly in your face if that's what you're trying to say. If gaming weren't widespread it wouldn't be able to have a large effect like that. Games existed and were popular in the 80s but crime was still pretty high. Then around the early to mid 90s gaming became extremely popular, particularly with young men, and suddenly things that young men like to do such as drink, have sex, and do dumb potentially destructive shit starts to absolutely nosedive. But no, those are both "so widespread" (whatever the fuck that even means in this context) so they can't have any effect on each other. I'm pretty sure he meant to say not "see something in the correlation." That said, it is possible. I have seen the passing of roe v. wade as a big reason from the decrease of crime, which makes sense to me. Video games may have played a part as well. Although, I knew a lot of kids who used to steal video games, maybe if they didn't go play them afterwards they would be committing other crimes, lol. <cite>Archgoat posted [p:955559770] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>SomeUsername529 posted... </cite> <quote>What the fuck does this gibberish even mean? Are you actually trying to say "those two things you're saying are somewhat correlated are happening everywhere so they can't be correlated"? Because that would be an extreeeeemely dumb response and I would laugh loudly in your face if that's what you're trying to say. If gaming weren't widespread it wouldn't be able to have a large effect like that. Games existed and were popular in the 80s but crime was still pretty high. Then around the early to mid 90s gaming became extremely popular, particularly with young men, and suddenly things that young men like to do such as drink, have sex, and do dumb potentially destructive shit starts to absolutely nosedive. But no, those are both "so widespread" (whatever the fuck that even means in this context) so they can't have any effect on each other.</quote> I'm pretty sure he meant to say not "see something in the correlation." That said, it is possible. I have seen the passing of roe v. wade as a big reason from the decrease of crime, which makes sense to me. Video games may have played a part as well. Although, I knew a lot of kids who used to steal video games, maybe if they didn't go play them afterwards they would be committing other crimes, lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CoorsLight 06/29/21 1:14:18 PM #61:	No I didn't mean that. I'm saying it's a dumb correlation. And this guy really just tried to say that people having sex less is a good thing lol <cite>CoorsLight posted [p:955562952] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>No I didn't mean that. I'm saying it's a dumb correlation. And this guy really just tried to say that people having sex less is a good thing lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dfy556 06/29/21 6:56:56 PM #62:	There are some really dumb people here. Being productive means being a contributing member of society instead of what amounts to a worthless freeloader. It doesn't matter if you enjoy it or not. You contribute and things run better because you have a job. If you play your cards right you will reap many great rewards. But hey, go ahead and be a bum wasting your time on video games instead of developing skills you can actually use. <cite>Dfy556 posted [p:955575507] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>There are some really dumb people here. Being productive means being a contributing member of society instead of what amounts to a worthless freeloader. It doesn't matter if you enjoy it or not. You contribute and things run better because you have a job. If you play your cards right you will reap many great rewards. But hey, go ahead and be a bum wasting your time on video games instead of developing skills you can actually use. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 06/29/21 6:57:43 PM #63:	Dfy556 posted... really dumb --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:955575538] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>Dfy556 posted... </cite> <quote>really dumb</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArvTheGreat 06/29/21 7:01:05 PM #64:	.. --- Things are about to get arvified <cite>ArvTheGreat posted [p:955575674] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>.. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CoorsLight 06/29/21 7:15:58 PM #65:	Imagine being a corporate bootlicker, couldn't be me <cite>CoorsLight posted [p:955576267] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>Imagine being a corporate bootlicker, couldn't be me </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 06/29/21 7:27:28 PM #66:	Dfy556 posted... There are some really dumb people here. Being productive means being a contributing member of society instead of what amounts to a worthless freeloader. It doesn't matter if you enjoy it or not. You contribute and things run better because you have a job. If you play your cards right you will reap many great rewards. But hey, go ahead and be a bum wasting your time on video games instead of developing skills you can actually use. But did you know you could be a contributing member of society AND play videos games in your free time? Its like this totally new concept! --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:955576688] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>Dfy556 posted...</cite> <quote>There are some really dumb people here. Being productive means being a contributing member of society instead of what amounts to a worthless freeloader. It doesn't matter if you enjoy it or not. You contribute and things run better because you have a job. If you play your cards right you will reap many great rewards. But hey, go ahead and be a bum wasting your time on video games instead of developing skills you can actually use.</quote> But did you know you could be a contributing member of society AND play videos games in your free time? Its like this totally new concept!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeUsername529 06/29/21 9:09:06 PM #67:	CoorsLight posted... No I didn't mean that. I'm saying it's a dumb correlation. And this guy really just tried to say that people having sex less is a good thing lol You think teenage pregnancy is a good thing? I thought you were just a moron but you're creep too. <cite>SomeUsername529 posted [p:955580285] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>CoorsLight posted... </cite> <quote>No I didn't mean that. I'm saying it's a dumb correlation. And this guy really just tried to say that people having sex less is a good thing lol</quote>You think teenage pregnancy is a good thing? I thought you were just a moron but you're creep too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 06/29/21 9:27:44 PM #68:	SomeUsername529 posted... You think teenage pregnancy is a good thing? I thought you were just a moron but you're creep too. Thats a pretty big leap. He didnt say anything that would mean teenage pregnancy is a good thing --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:955580932] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>SomeUsername529 posted...</cite> <quote>You think teenage pregnancy is a good thing? I thought you were just a moron but you're creep too.</quote> Thats a pretty big leap. He didnt say anything that would mean teenage pregnancy is a good thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeeVees 06/29/21 9:42:14 PM #69:	Dfy556 posted... There are some really dumb people here. Being productive means being a contributing member of society instead of what amounts to a worthless freeloader. It doesn't matter if you enjoy it or not. You contribute and things run better because you have a job. If you play your cards right you will reap many great rewards. But hey, go ahead and be a bum wasting your time on video games instead of developing skills you can actually use. What a fucking stupid take. You only need to be productive enough to fund your preferred lifestyle. Additional productivity is unnecessary. --- Rudy sucks <cite>VeeVees posted [p:955581442] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>Dfy556 posted... </cite> <quote>There are some really dumb people here. Being productive means being a contributing member of society instead of what amounts to a worthless freeloader. It doesn't matter if you enjoy it or not. You contribute and things run better because you have a job. If you play your cards right you will reap many great rewards. But hey, go ahead and be a bum wasting your time on video games instead of developing skills you can actually use.</quote> What a fucking stupid take. You only need to be productive enough to fund your preferred lifestyle. Additional productivity is unnecessary. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocDelicious 06/30/21 1:20:01 AM #70:	Ninja4820 posted... Really?? I'm honestly asking, do you honestly feel that way? I've only gone snowboarding a couple of times, but those couple of times were way more memorable for me than playing SSX Tricky. I also have way better memories from playing sports in high school, as opposed to playing sports video games. I mean, if you honestly feel that way, then cool. Glad you're getting your kicks in, I suppose. But do you really? You don't think there's an element of delusion in this at all? I hope you won't be offended by me speculating about that, but it's just hard to believe. Yeah, 100%. It's all the fun without any of the shitty stuff. --- o7 Let strength be granted so the world might be mended. <cite>DocDelicious posted [p:955587933] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>Ninja4820 posted... </cite> <quote>Really?? I'm honestly asking, do you honestly feel that way? I've only gone snowboarding a couple of times, but those couple of times were way more memorable for me than playing SSX Tricky. I also have way better memories from playing sports in high school, as opposed to playing sports video games. I mean, if you honestly feel that way, then cool. Glad you're getting your kicks in, I suppose. But do you really? You don't think there's an element of delusion in this at all? I hope you won't be offended by me speculating about that, but it's just hard to believe.</quote> Yeah, 100%. It's all the fun without any of the shitty stuff. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonClaw01 06/30/21 10:23:30 AM #71:	Yeah, I probably would've found the cure for cancer if it wasn't for Mario --- <('.'<) <(^.^)> (>'.')> Splendiferous <cite>DragonClaw01 posted [p:955596401] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, I probably would've found the cure for cancer if it wasn't for Mario </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 07/02/21 11:30:25 AM #72:	CoorsLight posted... And this guy really just tried to say that people having sex less is a good thing lol I mean it would cut down on the overpopulation problem and have less unfit parents having kids so it would have its plus sides. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/guXxsmA <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:955670269] in I love vid... [t:79536934]...</cite> <quote>CoorsLight posted... </cite> <quote>And this guy really just tried to say that people having sex less is a good thing lol</quote> I mean it would cut down on the overpopulation problem and have less unfit parents having kids so it would have its plus sides. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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