Yellow to be shiny?

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saspa 06/27/21 8:40:12 AM #1:	When transferring a Pokemon in R/B/Y to a Gold/Silver/Crystal cart, was it possible for it to appear as shiny, even if that feature wasn't around/visible during gen 1? Kinda curious, always wanted to ask this question 20 years ago. --- https://imgur.com/0UFI0T9 <cite>saspa posted [p:955481457] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>When transferring a Pokemon in R/B/Y to a Gold/Silver/Crystal cart, was it possible for it to appear as shiny, even if that feature wasn't around/visible during gen 1? Kinda curious, always wanted to ask this question 20 years ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 06/27/21 8:41:30 AM #2:	saspa posted... When transferring a Pokemon in R/B/Y to a Gold/Silver/Crystal cart, was it possible for it to appear as shiny, even if that feature wasn't around/visible during gen 1? Kinda curious, always wanted to ask this question 20 years ago. Im pretty sure it is possible. I thought I read about that being a thing --- Reminder: On March 2nd, 2021, Texas removed mask mandates and allowed 100% capacity for businesses. <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:955481480] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>saspa posted... </cite> <quote>When transferring a Pokemon in R/B/Y to a Gold/Silver/Crystal cart, was it possible for it to appear as shiny, even if that feature wasn't around/visible during gen 1? Kinda curious, always wanted to ask this question 20 years ago.</quote> Im pretty sure it is possible. I thought I read about that being a thing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 06/27/21 8:42:03 AM #3:	Yeah its possible. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:955481489] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>Yeah its possible. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cadcrafter 06/27/21 8:42:16 AM #4:	It is possible, because the shininess of a pokemon is decided by it's DV values (pre gen 3 IVs); no new metadata saved to the pokemon was added in gen 2 --- "think before you press enter. all of you." - SmashFaqs Discord i want lemm to eat ten egg <cite>cadcrafter posted [p:955481495] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>It is possible, because the shininess of a pokemon is decided by it's DV values (pre gen 3 IVs); no new metadata saved to the pokemon was added in gen 2 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ffmasterjose 06/27/21 8:42:17 AM #5:	you could still transfer a shiny Pokemon from Gen 1 to Gen 2 but you wouldnt know if it was shiny until it actually got into your Gen 2 game. There was no in-game symbol or such to indicate it was a shiny --- Your new reigning and defending Guru Champion is azuarc! <cite>ffmasterjose posted [p:955481496] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>you could still transfer a shiny Pokemon from Gen 1 to Gen 2 but you wouldnt know if it was shiny until it actually got into your Gen 2 game. There was no in-game symbol or such to indicate it was a shiny </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmbraceOfDeath 06/27/21 8:42:56 AM #6:	Yes, it was based on IVs at the time IIRC, so you can even determine if the Pokemon will be shiny before you transfer it. --- PSN/GT: BigDaffej <cite>EmbraceOfDeath posted [p:955481504] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>Yes, it was based on IVs at the time IIRC, so you can even determine if the Pokemon will be shiny before you transfer it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 06/27/21 8:43:16 AM #7:	No random encounter could be shiny, but gift Pokmon (starters, Eevee, etc.) and set encounters (Moltres, Mewtwo, etc.) could. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:955481509] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>No random encounter could be shiny, but gift Pokmon (starters, Eevee, etc.) and set encounters (Moltres, Mewtwo, etc.) could. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 06/27/21 8:48:21 AM #8:	Shiny was introduced for Gold & Silver tmk <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:955481599] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>Shiny was introduced for Gold & Silver tmk </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saspa 06/28/21 3:29:29 PM #10:	cadcrafter posted... It is possible, because the shininess of a pokemon is decided by it's DV values (pre gen 3 IVs); no new metadata saved to the pokemon was added in gen 2 Huh, so if you had a pokemon from gen 1, like say a pidgey you caught or even your own starter, it could be a shiny, and you wouldn't know it unless you happened to trade it to g/s/c? --- https://imgur.com/0UFI0T9 <cite>saspa posted [p:955528628] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>cadcrafter posted...</cite> <quote>It is possible, because the shininess of a pokemon is decided by it's DV values (pre gen 3 IVs); no new metadata saved to the pokemon was added in gen 2 </quote> Huh, so if you had a pokemon from gen 1, like say a pidgey you caught or even your own starter, it could be a shiny, and you wouldn't know it unless you happened to trade it to g/s/c?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 06/28/21 3:30:49 PM #11:	Pretty much. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:955528680] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>Pretty much. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saspa 06/28/21 3:42:12 PM #12:	ffmasterjose posted... you could still transfer a shiny Pokemon from Gen 1 to Gen 2 but you wouldnt know if it was shiny until it actually got into your Gen 2 game. There was no in-game symbol or such to indicate it was a shiny So the concept of shiny retroactively existed even though g/s/c wouldn't come out until a few years later... --- https://imgur.com/0UFI0T9 <cite>saspa posted [p:955529150] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>ffmasterjose posted...</cite> <quote>you could still transfer a shiny Pokemon from Gen 1 to Gen 2 but you wouldnt know if it was shiny until it actually got into your Gen 2 game. There was no in-game symbol or such to indicate it was a shiny </quote> So the concept of shiny retroactively existed even though g/s/c wouldn't come out until a few years later...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 06/28/21 3:42:44 PM #13:	saspa posted... So the concept of shiny retroactively existed even though g/s/c wouldn't come out until a few years later... Yes <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:955529167] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>saspa posted... </cite> <quote>So the concept of shiny retroactively existed even though g/s/c wouldn't come out until a few years later...</quote>Yes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kuuko 06/28/21 4:09:22 PM #14:	The old trick to get a Shiny Ditto in Gen 2 uses this idea. And it's very useful because Gen 2 is also the only generation where a shiny parents significantly increases the odds of a shiny egg. --- https://imgur.com/dzGMd <cite>Kuuko posted [p:955530205] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>The old trick to get a Shiny Ditto in Gen 2 uses this idea. And it's very useful because Gen 2 is also the only generation where a shiny parents significantly increases the odds of a shiny egg. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eevee-Trainer 06/28/21 4:25:19 PM #15:	saspa posted... So the concept of shiny retroactively existed even though g/s/c wouldn't come out until a few years later... Not really. It's more that Shininess at the time was based on a pre-existing mechanic (DVs) - Gen 1 had DVs too, since they determine stat growth. They just didn't change how DVs work in Gen 2. In Gen 3 they had the current IV system, and Shinies were pure RNG and not DV-based. --- she/her -- My Server, Eevee's Mystery Dungeon: https://discord.gg/emd My PMD Rescue Server: https://discord.gg/E57gMQq <cite>Eevee-Trainer posted [p:955530767] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>saspa posted... </cite> <quote>So the concept of shiny retroactively existed even though g/s/c wouldn't come out until a few years later...</quote>Not really. It's more that Shininess at the time was based on a pre-existing mechanic (DVs) - Gen 1 had DVs too, since they determine stat growth. They just didn't change how DVs work in Gen 2. In Gen 3 they had the current IV system, and Shinies were pure RNG and not DV-based. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kuuko 06/28/21 4:40:00 PM #16:	Eevee-Trainer posted... Not really. It's more that Shininess at the time was based on a pre-existing mechanic (DVs) - Gen 1 had DVs too, since they determine stat growth. They just didn't change how DVs work in Gen 2. In Gen 3 they had the current IV system, and Shinies were pure RNG and not DV-based. Yep. It's similar to how gender doesn't exist in Gen 1, but when trading to Gen 2 it'll consistently decide the gender based on the pokemon's Attack DV stat (where males are literally better than females btw) --- https://imgur.com/dzGMd <cite>Kuuko posted [p:955531266] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>Eevee-Trainer posted... </cite> <quote>Not really. It's more that Shininess at the time was based on a pre-existing mechanic (DVs) - Gen 1 had DVs too, since they determine stat growth. They just didn't change how DVs work in Gen 2. In Gen 3 they had the current IV system, and Shinies were pure RNG and not DV-based.</quote>Yep. It's similar to how gender doesn't exist in Gen 1, but when trading to Gen 2 it'll consistently decide the gender based on the pokemon's Attack DV stat (where males are literally better than females btw) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saspa 06/29/21 1:55:58 PM #17:	Kuuko posted... The old trick to get a Shiny Ditto in Gen 2 uses this idea. And it's very useful because Gen 2 is also the only generation where a shiny parents significantly increases the odds of a shiny egg. Wait I didn't know that. So if you had a shiny swinub the egg you got could contain a shiny pokemon? --- https://imgur.com/0UFI0T9 <cite>saspa posted [p:955564612] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>Kuuko posted...</cite> <quote>The old trick to get a Shiny Ditto in Gen 2 uses this idea. And it's very useful because Gen 2 is also the only generation where a shiny parents significantly increases the odds of a shiny egg. </quote> Wait I didn't know that. So if you had a shiny swinub the egg you got could contain a shiny pokemon?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eevee-Trainer 06/29/21 2:06:41 PM #18:	saspa posted... Wait I didn't know that. So if you had a shiny swinub the egg you got could contain a shiny pokemon? It's a little more complicated than that. Basically, DVs are inherited in a certain way in Generation II, and having certain DVs can give you a Shiny Pokemon. To get a Shiny, you need Attack DV: 2, 3, 6, 7, 10, 11, 14, or 15 Defense DV: 10 Speed DV: 10 Special DV: 10 When two Pokemon breed, it inherits its DVs from the opposite-gender parent, or from Ditto if Ditto is being used. Attack & Speed DVs will be random. The Defense DV will be carried over exactly, and the Special DV will be carried over or given a +/- 8 boost depending on its value. So: with a Shiny Ditto, Attack has a 50% chance to be correct by randomness Defense will always be correct Special has a 50% chance to be correct due to its mechanics Speed has a 1/32 chance of being correct which would give a 1/128 likelihood overall. Though I think I'm wrong somewhere or not accounting for something, as the best rate I often hear cited is 1/64. --- she/her -- My Server, Eevee's Mystery Dungeon: https://discord.gg/emd My PMD Rescue Server: https://discord.gg/E57gMQq <cite>Eevee-Trainer posted [p:955565004] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>saspa posted... </cite> <quote>Wait I didn't know that. So if you had a shiny swinub the egg you got could contain a shiny pokemon?</quote>It's a little more complicated than that. Basically, DVs are inherited in a certain way in Generation II, and having certain DVs can give you a Shiny Pokemon. To get a Shiny, you need Attack DV: 2, 3, 6, 7, 10, 11, 14, or 15Defense DV: 10Speed DV: 10Special DV: 10When two Pokemon breed, it inherits its DVs from the opposite-gender parent, or from Ditto if Ditto is being used. Attack & Speed DVs will be random. The Defense DV will be carried over exactly, and the Special DV will be carried over or given a +/- 8 boost depending on its value. So: with a Shiny Ditto, Attack has a 50% chance to be correct by randomnessDefense will always be correctSpecial has a 50% chance to be correct due to its mechanicsSpeed has a 1/32 chance of being correctwhich would give a 1/128 likelihood overall. Though I think I'm wrong somewhere or not accounting for something, as the best rate I often hear cited is 1/64. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saspa 07/01/21 1:34:47 AM #19:	How come whenever I breed a pokemon with a ditto, the egg was always a ditto, never the other pokemon. I remember trading the starters from rby to gsc and they were always male, never female, so I used a ditto and yet I never got a starter in the egg. It was ditto every. single. time. --- https://imgur.com/0UFI0T9 <cite>saspa posted [p:955624976] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>How come whenever I breed a pokemon with a ditto, the egg was always a ditto, never the other pokemon. I remember trading the starters from rby to gsc and they were always male, never female, so I used a ditto and yet I never got a starter in the egg. It was ditto every. single. time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eevee-Trainer 07/01/21 1:46:36 AM #20:	I don't think you can get Ditto from Eggs, what? --- she/her -- My Server, Eevee's Mystery Dungeon: https://discord.gg/emd My PMD Rescue Server: https://discord.gg/E57gMQq <cite>Eevee-Trainer posted [p:955625169] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>I don't think you can get Ditto from Eggs, what? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 07/01/21 2:00:30 AM #21:	Eevee-Trainer posted... I don't think you can get Ditto from Eggs, what? You could breed Ditto with other Ditto. But breeding Ditto with anything else would never give a Ditto. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:955625358] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>Eevee-Trainer posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think you can get Ditto from Eggs, what? </quote> You could breed Ditto with other Ditto. But breeding Ditto with anything else would never give a Ditto.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 07/01/21 6:22:56 AM #22:	saspa posted... How come whenever I breed a pokemon with a ditto, the egg was always a ditto, never the other pokemon. I remember trading the starters from rby to gsc and they were always male, never female, so I used a ditto and yet I never got a starter in the egg. It was ditto every. single. time. Uhh What? --- Reminder: On March 2nd, 2021, Texas removed mask mandates and allowed 100% capacity for businesses. <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:955628591] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>saspa posted... </cite> <quote>How come whenever I breed a pokemon with a ditto, the egg was always a ditto, never the other pokemon. I remember trading the starters from rby to gsc and they were always male, never female, so I used a ditto and yet I never got a starter in the egg. It was ditto every. single. time.</quote> Uhh What? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saspa 07/03/21 4:31:48 AM #23:	Also remember in Pokemon Stadium when the pokemon would appear in funky alternate colors, but they were still not considered shiny? Good times. --- https://imgur.com/0UFI0T9 <cite>saspa posted [p:955697303] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>Also remember in Pokemon Stadium when the pokemon would appear in funky alternate colors, but they were still not considered shiny? Good times.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 07/03/21 5:03:28 AM #24:	saspa posted... Also remember in Pokemon Stadium when the pokemon would appear in funky alternate colors, but they were still not considered shiny? Good times. Yeah that was nickname dependant. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:955697578] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>saspa posted... </cite> <quote>Also remember in Pokemon Stadium when the pokemon would appear in funky alternate colors, but they were still not considered shiny? Good times.</quote> Yeah that was nickname dependant. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saspa 07/04/21 11:07:25 AM #25:	Wow so many hidden mechanics. If I had only given a nickname to a pokemon I would have gotten a charizard with alternate colors too? --- https://imgur.com/0UFI0T9 <cite>saspa posted [p:955733397] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>Wow so many hidden mechanics. If I had only given a nickname to a pokemon I would have gotten a charizard with alternate colors too?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 07/04/21 12:33:48 PM #26:	saspa posted... Wow so many hidden mechanics. If I had only given a nickname to a pokemon I would have gotten a charizard with alternate colors too? Depends on the nickname and it would only be in the stadium games. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:955735490] in Was it pos... [t:79535720]...</cite> <quote>saspa posted... </cite> <quote>Wow so many hidden mechanics. If I had only given a nickname to a pokemon I would have gotten a charizard with alternate colors too?</quote> Depends on the nickname and it would only be in the stadium games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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