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SomeLikeItHoth
06/24/21 5:17:37 PM
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Transgender runner CeCe Telfer will not be allowed to compete in the women's 400-meter hurdles at U.S. Olympic trials because Telfer has not met the conditions World Athletics established in its eligibility regulations for certain women's events.

Telfer competed for the men's team at Franklin Pierce University a Division II school in Rindge, New Hampshire but took time off, then came back to compete for the women's team. In 2019, Telfer won the NCAA title.

Telfer was entered in this week's trials, but World Athletics put out new guidelines in 2019 that closed off international women's events of between 400 meters and a mile to athletes whose testosterone levels were at 5 nonomoles per liter (nmol/L) or more.

Telfer had been on the list of qualified athletes for Fridays opening heats. A start list was published Wednesday evening that was missing Telfers name. USA Track and Field released a short statement that said athletes must meet the World Athletic requirements to be eligible for trials.

USATF said it had been notified last week that Telfer had not met the conditions and the federation passed along that information to the runner.

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Proto_Spark
06/24/21 5:19:52 PM
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I mean, sucks to be her, but if she doesn't meet the regulations to do so, there's nothing to really be done about it.

I've heard that testosterone isn't a great proxy for determining this kind of stuff, but as long as its what's used them's the breaks.
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Giblet_Enjoyer
06/24/21 5:20:03 PM
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So they had more testosterone than was allowed? How is this news

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scorpion41
06/24/21 5:20:50 PM
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Good

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PC-Builder_Pony
06/24/21 5:22:44 PM
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To be eligible for an event, an athlete has to stay below the 5 nmol/L threshold for 12 months. In its guidelines, World Athletics says athletes can lower their testosterone level using an oral contraceptive pill, a monthly injection of a hormone therapy drug or by surgery to remove their testicles.

Theres the rules

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hockeybub89
06/24/21 5:23:42 PM
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Dark_SilverX
06/24/21 5:29:33 PM
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she is a woman and needs to be treated as such no matter how much testosterone she has. this is unfair. this queen needs to be treated with respect.

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wholeheartedly
06/24/21 5:30:20 PM
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To 500

What about pitbulls and circumcisions?

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garan
06/24/21 5:33:06 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
She didn't meet the regulations


Fair, next.
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Derwood
06/24/21 5:34:32 PM
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Do they test ALL female athletes for testosterone levels?
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daynlokki
06/24/21 5:36:23 PM
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Dark_SilverX posted...
she is a woman and needs to be treated as such no matter how much testosterone she has. this is unfair. this queen needs to be treated with respect.
Testosterone limits have been used for the olympics for years. She could have kept her levels low enough to compete, other countries have trans athletes able to do so.
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daynlokki
06/24/21 5:36:56 PM
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Derwood posted...
Do they test ALL female athletes for testosterone levels?
Yes. How do you think they caught the German female soccer team awhile back lol.
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Dakimakura
06/24/21 5:37:27 PM
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Let's riot

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zammox
06/24/21 5:37:56 PM
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This is unfair and the dinosaurs working on this comittee need to understand that it is 2021 and women can have as much testosterone, if not more, than a regular man. Get over it and let her compete!

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Musourenka
06/24/21 5:44:22 PM
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This seems fair to me.

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skermac
06/24/21 5:46:11 PM
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Derwood posted...
Do they test ALL female athletes for testosterone levels?

probably only if they take testosterone supplements

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skermac
06/24/21 5:47:42 PM
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Musourenka posted...
This seems fair to me.

me too

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skermac
06/24/21 5:48:46 PM
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zammox posted...
This is unfair and the dinosaurs working on this comittee need to understand that it is 2021 and women can have as much testosterone, if not more, than a regular man. Get over it and let her compete!
are you an activist or something, anyone that doesnt like the rules should try to get the rules changed


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Tyranthraxus
06/24/21 5:50:46 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
I mean, sucks to be her, but if she doesn't meet the regulations to do so, there's nothing to really be done about it.

I've heard that testosterone isn't a great proxy for determining this kind of stuff, but as long as its what's used them's the breaks.

It's not but if a woman was taking testosterone supplements she would be absolutely disqualified via PEDs rule so this is just kinda the reverse, you have to make sure you're taking the appropriate amount of performance decreasing drugs or something like that.

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CanuckCowboy
06/24/21 5:50:47 PM
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zammox posted...
This is unfair and the dinosaurs working on this comittee need to understand that it is 2021 and women can have as much testosterone, if not more, than a regular man. Get over it and let her compete!

So you want women to be allowed to use test and or steroids just to have an even playing field?

Cause thats what the vast majority of women would need to do to be at those levels.

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hockeybub89
06/24/21 6:24:11 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
So you want women to be allowed to use test and or steroids just to have an even playing field?

Cause thats what the vast majority of women would need to do to be at those levels.
No, he's a troll mocking people he made up in his head

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Flauros
06/24/21 6:28:31 PM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
So they had more testosterone than was allowed? How is this news
Because trans anything makes for a hot topic. Not just on here, but anywhere. So these news pages just keep churning these stories out to get clicks.

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wheredayayo
06/24/21 10:42:01 PM
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Good keep it an even playing field. If transgender athletes want to compete they should make another competition where only transgender athletes can compete. similar to the special Olympics where only disabled people can compete
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BilalPowell
06/24/21 10:43:03 PM
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Why not just get rid of gendered teams and just have the best of the best to avoid these rules?

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Dark_SilverX
06/24/21 10:44:53 PM
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daynlokki posted...
Testosterone limits have been used for the olympics for years. She could have kept her levels low enough to compete, other countries have trans athletes able to do so.
it might be hard for her to do so. doing this is discrimination and they should allow her back in.

the other women just need to get stronger and build more testosterone.

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Proto_Spark
06/24/21 10:52:14 PM
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BilalPowell posted...
Why not just get rid of gendered teams and just have the best of the best to avoid these rules?

Sometimes the gender difference adds to the enjoyment of the sport. Tennis is a good example of this. Men are able to hammer the ball much harder than the women (that infamous Williams' sisters story) but because of this the game is just them basically throwing ultimates at each other until one can't hit back.

Women's tennis is more popular because there's more of a back and forth to it and it seems people often tend to enjoy a more drawn out competition.

Or also things like Chess, where there are women's leagues because girls tend to not be very welcome in "boys" leagues.
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Tyranthraxus
06/24/21 11:07:08 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
Sometimes the gender difference adds to the enjoyment of the sport. Tennis is a good example of this. Men are able to hammer the ball much harder than the women (that infamous Williams' sisters story) but because of this the game is just them basically throwing ultimates at each other until one can't hit back.

Women's tennis is more popular because there's more of a back and forth to it and it seems people often tend to enjoy a more drawn out competition.

Or also things like Chess, where there are women's leagues because girls tend to not be very welcome in "boys" leagues.
Women's tennis isn't more popular but it is more popular proportionally than other women's leagues.

Women's gymnastics is more popular than men's because guess why.

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fohstick
06/24/21 11:14:26 PM
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Proto_Spark
06/24/21 11:15:20 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Women's tennis isn't more popular but it is more popular proportionally than other women's leagues.

Women's gymnastics is more popular than men's because guess why.

Fair enough, Though I still think the difference between the two games that I would say justifies the gender divide.

This can definitely be a drawback too, the WNBA doesn't have as many sick-ass dunks due to being shorter, and so less people care since the game is viewed as less interesting.
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WholeLife2
06/24/21 11:17:51 PM
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well yeah

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