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Blue_Inigo
06/22/21 8:54:55 PM
#52:


TC sure does post a lotta dumb shit

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rexcrk
06/22/21 8:57:55 PM
#53:


ultimate reaver posted...
look its a hard game but its not that bad.

https://youtu.be/zHhRjWEvD3E?list=PLfQ0j5YNcrZpXmjBHOcsd97zgTHP2qGSN
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The Wheelman1
06/22/21 8:59:39 PM
#54:


I aint reading all that wtf. Can i get the short version?

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emblem boy
06/22/21 9:01:20 PM
#55:


Regarding post #1.

What would it take for you to say that the school system has policies that aren't fully inclusive and causes inconvenience to non-white people? Your statement that it can't possibly be inconvenient to non white people because other countries have similar curriculum isn't really a strong one to me. There's more to school systems than just the fact they teach the same subject.

MajesticFerret posted...
Last I checked, this is also offered to POC... If they think there are schools that don't have enough funding and they need more funding to get more people involved in this, they can say that, but this heavily implies that taking advanced courses for people who are ahead of the curricula, is racist because there's a larger percentage of POC who can't keep up...


I'd think the claim is that the method in which students are offered AP class placement can be questioned. If counselors are more prone to offer it to certain students, then that's an issue considering it gives them a significant boost in not only getting into college (higher gpa for being in AP class) but also saves them time in college by letting them test out of subjects early on.
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MajesticFerret
06/22/21 9:02:11 PM
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MacDaMurderer posted...
These were all Public schools.

Probably due to increased funding for higher property taxes.

Still, I already acknowledged discussing funding isn't all that controversial or something I have contention with.

It's the rhetoric regarding schooling in general. The entire planet pretty much runs schools the same, teaches overwhelmingly the same subjects, etc.

His article makes it ABUNDANTLY clear he is not just comparing high income vs. low income schools but is implying that children from the same schools learning the same material, POC are inherently disadvantaged because he seems to think the entire process is racist...despite the fact that POC technically are the highest achievers in school.


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emblem boy
06/22/21 9:02:36 PM
#57:


MajesticFerret posted...
ie, please throw money at us so we can fix a problem that will likely never be fixed through the school system but only through marginalized groups improving financially, which leads to more stable homes for children to learn in, which is main reason higher income people out perform lower income people.


Mainly agreed. I hope you're for progressive policies that help ensure those things for people
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deoxxys
06/22/21 9:03:09 PM
#58:


Can I have the TLDR version?

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indica
06/22/21 9:04:14 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
Lmao
https://www.thecut.com/2019/05/naomi-wolf-interview-book-error-bbc-interview.html
Damn...she took it like a champ though

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Proto_Spark
06/22/21 9:05:25 PM
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MajesticFerret posted...
As for the credibility of the article:

The article is published by the Education Resources Information Center, a government institute that props up what it considers to be educationally relevant material, and the "student" in question is now a professor, and I don't know a whole lot of PhD students that completely change their mind after becoming a professor and articles published by PhD students are usually taken quite seriously. This ain't some scrubby undergrad.

If anyone can find me an educational article that goes into the same depth this one does that disagrees with the man who wrote this article, I would be free to read it. I referenced this article because, quite frankly, this was the most indepth article I could find without having to literally spend money.

If someone has something better...I'm all ears.

This is not an article though. This is a lit review from a Ph. D student, written 12 years ago. Its not written for the layperson. And given you repeatedly say in your wall of text that you either don't understand what they are trying to say or making hyperbolic misinterpretations makes it seem like you don't have the requisite knowledge to properly interpret this writing.

You can say that's a flaw of the writing, and I would agree, but this is present in basically every field of academics.

This just seems like you found an old article and then went out of your way to try to justify how because you don't want to indulge in this topic, its a stupid topic that nobody should investigate.
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Tmaster148
06/22/21 9:05:45 PM
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Unknown5uspect posted...
It's cute that you think we don't know who TC is.

Broseph is just a standard alt right user who tries to pretend he isn't. Really no reason to pay him any attention.

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The Wheelman1
06/22/21 9:06:18 PM
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You have waaay to much time on your hands to type all of that dude.

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AloneIBreak
06/22/21 9:07:02 PM
#63:


TC may (or may not, idk) have good points, but CE probably isnt going to put forth the effort to read their post (although a pro CRT thread might get a different response).

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Stalolin
06/22/21 9:14:28 PM
#64:


Tc: Im racist but want to push that culpability onto somebody else.

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Blue_Inigo
06/22/21 9:15:43 PM
#65:


AloneIBreak posted...
TC may (or may not, idk) have good points, but CE probably isnt going to put forth the effort to read their post (although a pro CRT thread might get a different response).
Brevity is the soul of wit and TC has nothing intelligent to offer in that mass of nonsense. He's already admitted he doesn't quite understand what he read

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lemondrop7
06/22/21 9:17:17 PM
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its all just bullcrap just like all the environmental bs. its like 100 companies that cause 99.99% of the worlds climate changing effects. but the messaging is for you to feel ashamed and at fault. same thing here. its all about making you feel at fault. no shit drug laws are abused to unfairly punish black people. we continue to fight for legalization and accountability by the government. you dont need to start teaching kids its because america is a white country. its because america is a corrupt country and the people who could make a difference are a select few and we have no really say.

critical race theory is just bs designed to absolve the government and the institutions capable of making systemic change...if they actually believed the BS theyre forcing schools to peddle, they could easily change this country is many different ways
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ssjevot
06/22/21 9:17:49 PM
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US school systems have a laundry list of problems. I would never want my kids educated there. Whether or not they use CRT doesn't seem to matter much because you can look at how they compare to other countries now on international standardized tests and it's not good. They already spend the most per student in the world, so people in the US really need to consider looking at what other countries are doing that are achieving far better results for far less money and maybe try that.

And yeah raising my mixed race kids in a country where both races are extreme minorities might have disadvantages over the more diverse US, but they also won't be shot and will receive a quality education, so it seems like a pretty good deal to me.

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MajesticFerret
06/22/21 9:25:43 PM
#68:


The Wheelman1 posted...
I aint reading all that wtf. Can i get the short version?

Sure, look at my last post from my wall of posts that summarizes everything the article says, but the reason I went into depth is some of the stuff he doesn't simply state, but if you read where I got it from it becomes more clear.

emblem boy posted...
Regarding post #1.

What would it take for you to say that the school system has policies that aren't fully inclusive and causes inconvenience to non-white people?

Examples, for one.

Your statement that it can't possibly be inconvenient to non white people because other countries have similar curriculum isn't really a strong one to me.

That's maybe 1/3rd of my argument at best.

1. Pretty much every school is everywhere is doing the same shit.
2. The fact that several demographics of minority are over performing the majority shows pretty clearly it is not a system that inherently favors whites above all else.
3. Really, only black people and to a lesser extent Hispanics are lagging behind. This seems to suggest it is less a white monolith issue and more a black and brown issue, but truthfully, lower income people regardless of color seem to do statistically worse in school, largely due to home issues, and the referenced demographics have more lower income people disproportionately.

Sometimes you can have a problem, but you are blaming the wrong institutions for the problem. Blaming ALL institutions for the problem doesn't do anyone any good. If EVERYTHING is racist, it kinda makes it impossible to pinpoint any problem because EVERYTHING is the problem. Minorities underperforming in school all things equalized, is more of an economic issue, with economic problems creating an unstable home being the overwhelming reason for these performance differences.

I don't think there is anything wrong with the core foundations of education itself.

There's more to school systems than just the fact they teach the same subject.

Again, other article does more than just imply funding differences between school is the problem. He argued the whole damn system (subjects taught, way school is handled and executed, etc.) Is the problem. And he's really vague about it... If you don't have concrete stuff to isolate to fix, you probably do more damage and good and that part of your theory should be tossed.

I'd think the claim is that the method in which students are offered AP class placement can be questioned.

In my school, if you performed well in the non-AP classes, they would jump you to AP and ANY student could go to the AP courses, and if you couldn't handle it, they'd fail you or bump you down to non-AP.

I have a mom who taught AP and non-AP and she would encourage kids who qualified for AP to go to AP (based on performance), but she said a lot of the kids not in AP simply would not be able to handle AP classes based on their non-AP performance.

I do not want to see exceptionally gifted students held back by non gifted students when we already live in a country that massively underperforms educationally because we cater too much to the lowest common denominator and we had plenty of diversity in my AP courses, so smart and dumb kids come in all shapes and sizes. I don't think AP courses or how they are offered has enough basis to be called racist in and of itself.

It's like being jumped in a back alley and having your legs broken by racists and then being told you can't jump over hurdles for track.

Jumping over tracks isn't inherently racist, even if perhaps what handicapped you is. The end result is still you can't jump over the hurdles without failing.

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Proto_Spark
06/22/21 9:29:13 PM
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MajesticFerret posted...
Jumping over tracks isn't inherently racist, even if perhaps what handicapped you is. The end result is still you can't jump over the hurdles without failing.

But the point is you can't jump over the hurdles because of racism. you aren't being handicapped by your own lack of skills, the system (ie. the guys who broke your legs) are stopping you from succeeding.

When some people start with their legs broken because of racist actions, the people who don't have broken legs are going to do much better at the track meet.
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MistyKnight
06/22/21 9:29:33 PM
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Tc is a trumper

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ZMythos
06/22/21 9:35:15 PM
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MajesticFerret posted...
The wording "deficit" is odd, as if he's talking about actual funding, schools typically receive MORE money if they underperform and/or are public with a high number of POC.

This is misleading at best and a lie at worse.

Most of a school's funding comes from taxes, specifically property taxes. The higher the taxes (AKA the better and wealthier the neighboorhood), the more funding the school/district gets.

Maybe 10% of a school's funding comes from the federal government, and maybe 20-30% comes from the state. And sure, underperforming schools will get more state/federal funding on average, but this does not in any way offset the difference between a school in a wealthy neighborhood and a school in a poor one.

The poorest areas are usually either metropolitan or rural. Rural schools are generally poor as well (I work at one) but are also smaller, so the funding gets dispersed to fewer people. Urban schools can be up to 8 times as large as rural schools and have to spread their funding much thinner. Suburban schools have none of these problems because they have upper/middle income houses supporting them.

Both rural and suburban schools have a disproportionately low black student population, while urban schools are predominately black. Of course, it's obvious to anybody who studied 10th grade history why this is, but few are willing to admit that the cause is systemic. But now we see that because urban schools have more students and most of the students are black, each student gets less out of any funding that school gets.

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MajesticFerret
06/22/21 9:37:46 PM
#72:


Proto_Spark posted...
This is not an article though.

Article, dissertation, paper...it's a point of reference for educational study, I jump between calling it several things, it really doesn't matter what it's called.

This is a lit review

It's not a lit review. That implies it's a review of other source material/a book.

from a Ph. D student,

Who is now a professor and probably hasn't changed his mind.

And it's being propped up by a government body as educational source material.

written 12 years ago.

If it's changed substantially in 12 yrs, let me know.

Its not written for the layperson.

Piss off with this, I write literal densely populated government articles on regulations that have a bunch of scientific subject matter for a living.

Nothing about this was too scientific too understand. This is heavily based in pseudo science and it is the writers burden to properly defend anything they say in the paper.

This is coming from a place of authority that you yourself can't even authorize.

If there's anything I misunderstood or took out of context, please tell me, and stop with the blanket statement bullshit.

And given you repeatedly say

I said it once, and it was for the most ridiculously worded sentence, not because it contained some profound meaning you need a PhD to understand.

This just seems like you found an old article

A government referenced educational source material, implying it is still very much so relevant.

Honestly, feel free to piss off and not post if "you don't understand the paper, I'm not going too/can't explain how you misinterpreted the paper, and I have absolutely no other source to provide you to clarify anything" is your end argument.

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MajesticFerret
06/22/21 9:43:18 PM
#73:


ZMythos posted...
This is misleading at best and a lie at worse.

Most of a school's funding comes from taxes, specifically property taxes. The higher the taxes (AKA the better and wealthier the neighboorhood), the more funding the school/district gets.

Maybe 10% of a school's funding comes from the federal government, and maybe 20-30% comes from the state. And sure, underperforming schools will get more state/federal funding on average, but this does not in any way offset the difference between a school in a wealthy neighborhood and a school in a poor one.

The poorest areas are usually either metropolitan or rural. Rural schools are generally poor as well (I work at one) but are also smaller, so the funding gets dispersed to fewer people. Urban schools can be up to 8 times as large as rural schools and have to spread their funding much thinner. Suburban schools have none of these problems because they have upper/middle income houses supporting them.

Both rural and suburban schools have a disproportionately low black student population, while urban schools are predominately black. Of course, it's obvious to anybody who studied 10th grade history why this is, but few are willing to admit that the cause is systemic. But now we see that because urban schools have more students and most of the students are black, each student gets less out of any funding that school gets.

I agree with everything you just said.

I literally posted in like my very first paragraphs I don't have issues with citing funding differences as inequality issues...

Now why the hell isn't anyone refuting the literal pages of him implying absolutely everything else is also wrong with school systems?

Thats pretty damn important...arguably more important. Telling kids schools with more money have inmate advantage is common sense, telling kids all the things they are going to teach them are designed to only benefit the white middle class (literally verbatim what the dude freakin' said) is kinda problematic. Kinda sounds like it's going to incentivize POC that hate school to hate school even more and do even worse.

Giving people a free pass to have bad grades, especially a demographic struggling in this sense, is not a good idea.

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emblem boy
06/22/21 9:43:43 PM
#74:


MajesticFerret posted...


In my school, if you performed well in the non-AP classes, they would jump you to AP and ANY student could go to the AP courses, and if you couldn't handle it, they'd fail you or bump you down to non-AP.

I have a mom who taught AP and non-AP and she would encourage kids who qualified for AP to go to AP (based on performance), but she said a lot of the kids not in AP simply would not be able to handle AP classes based on their non-AP performance.


And they're obviously saying it's not like that in all schools.

I won't disagree that clearer writing and more examples would be helpful
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DandyQuackShot
06/22/21 9:45:16 PM
#75:


TLDR version:

Homeschooling FTW. Teach your kid whatever and everyday is Mexican pizza day

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MajesticFerret
06/22/21 10:00:33 PM
#76:


Proto_Spark posted...
But the point is you can't jump over the hurdles because of racism. you aren't being handicapped by your own lack of skills, the system (ie. the guys who broke your legs) are stopping you from succeeding.

When some people start with their legs broken because of racist actions, the people who don't have broken legs are going to do much better at the track meet.

You need to isolate what is actually racist, because that lets you solve the problem. Track and field is not racist even if the people who broke your leg are, just like school isn't inherently racist, even if having lower income parents might be attributed to their race, which could make performing well in school harder. Calling everything and all institutions racist actually becomes counter productive at this point, because you can't fix literally everything and it's largely just not true.

The one thing I know is certain, is educated people are disproportionately more likely to succeed in life and school is the one thing that is free where working hard and smart gives you disproportionately high chance of success. It all goes downhill after school.

One of America's biggest problems is we undervalue education culturally (example, movies where kids normalize it as a joke and mock being smart or nerdy, America having such a high drop out rate when these kids are shooting themselves in the foot but don't see it that way), I don't think pushing that school systems and society as a whole is rigged against you is what you should teach aspiring young adults, especially when the ones most likely to take it to heart really should be staying in school the most.

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hockeybub89
06/22/21 10:09:12 PM
#77:


MajesticFerret posted...
You need to isolate what is actually racist, because that lets you solve the problem. Track and field is not racist even if the people who broke your leg are, just like school isn't inherently racist, even if having lower income parents might be attributed to their race, which could make performing well in school harder. Calling everything and all institutions racist actually becomes counter productive at this point, because you can't fix literally everything and it's largely just not true.

The one thing I know is certain, is educated people are disproportionately more likely to succeed in life and school is the one thing that is free where working hard and smart gives you disproportionately high chance of success. It all goes downhill after school.

One of America's biggest problems is we undervalue education culturally (example, movies where kids normalize it as a joke and mock being smart or nerdy, America having such a high drop out rate when these kids are shooting themselves in the foot but don't see it that way), I don't think pushing that school systems and society as a whole is rigged against you is what you should teach aspiring young adults, especially when the ones most likely to take it to heart really should be staying in school the most.
But all these disadvantages are literally the result of previous systemic racism and it's childish Disney fantasy to think hard work means anything in this society. Work ethic and personal pride mean jack shit if someone blows out your knees with a shotgun and then tells you success is at the top of the ladder.

Maybe we should pump more funding into all schools and helping poor families so that everyone sees the point in getting an education.

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Shadow Don
06/22/21 10:09:15 PM
#78:


The fact that our meritocracy (class mobility) is dying, there are racial + ethnic disparities, and that America has a racist past isn't CRT.

These are just basic historical and economic facts.

CRT is an academic field typically studied as like... an upper/graduate level poli-sci course or in fucking law school.

If your kid is being taught CRT then you must be really proud that your 10 year old is a turbo child-genius who is already in law school lol.


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Proto_Spark
06/22/21 10:16:26 PM
#79:


MajesticFerret posted...
You need to isolate what is actually racist, because that lets you solve the problem. Track and field is not racist even if the people who broke your leg are, just like school isn't inherently racist, even if having lower income parents might be attributed to their race, which could make performing well in school harder. Calling everything and all institutions racist actually becomes counter productive at this point, because you can't fix literally everything and it's largely just not true.

True, but if that underlying factors aren't dealt with, then track and field is effectively undermining the idea of racial equality, so that track and field acts like a racist event. That's why its called systemic or institutional racism. The activities themselves aren't racist but they're basically acting that way because of the underlying factors.
MajesticFerret posted...
You need to isolate what is actually racist, because that lets you solve the problem.

this is (at least, what they say) the point of critical race theory is.

MajesticFerret posted...
The one thing I know is certain, is educated people are disproportionately more likely to succeed in life and school is the one thing that is free where working hard and smart gives you disproportionately high chance of success. It all goes downhill after school.

One of America's biggest problems is we undervalue education culturally (example, movies where kids normalize it as a joke and mock being smart or nerdy, America having such a high drop out rate when these kids are shooting themselves in the foot but don't see it that way), I don't think pushing that school systems and society as a whole is rigged against you is what you should teach aspiring young adults, especially when the ones most likely to take it to heart really should be staying in school the most.
I completely agree.

Critical race theory does have some of its own issues, but it seems like the only answers we seem to be taking are all or nothing.
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Eevee-Trainer
06/22/21 10:37:34 PM
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metallica846 posted...
tldr


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ChocoboMogALT
06/22/21 10:44:07 PM
#81:


This is absolutely something I could've shat out in a night or two in a CRT class. Just read Delgado instead of a lit review.

Not going to respond to specific statements, because I don't put much (any) weight in the paper (sorry PhD student), but most of the TC's complaints come off as "I'm as much a victim as PoC, look at me!"
This is a lit review, not a thesis. You don't see the numbers behind these statements, you just see the generalizations and the student's opinions. Yes, some of these are going to be pushed by CRT, but sociology gets closer and closer to a stats degree the higher up you go.

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PatrickMahomes
06/22/21 10:52:26 PM
#82:


Doom_Art posted...
You're delusional if you think I'm reading everything you wrote there.


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matchboxsantana
06/22/21 10:54:43 PM
#83:


MajesticFerret posted...
I was kinda on the fence on this one, but after reading an actual published abstract published by the government of a professor trying to explain it...yeah, no.

uh no. You were never on the fence, your 261 board reputation precedes you. You're known there as a hardcore MAGAist.
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MajesticFerret
06/23/21 10:14:14 AM
#84:


matchboxsantana posted...
uh no. You were never on the fence, your 261 board reputation precedes you. You're known there as a hardcore MAGAist.

Imagine me giving a flying fucking what communist 261 thinks. Anyone who can read anything I say can see I'm not a "hardcore" Conservative, this is just Commiefaqs where literally everything right of Bernie Bro and dumb shit like this:

hockeybub89 posted...
Disney fantasy to think hard work means anything in this society.

Not to mention literally everyone on the entire board is a lazy communist that thinks rent should be free (nearly every member of that board has avidly defended this belief), all landlords are evil, slavery is totally ok as long as it benefits the lazy and disenfranchised (demanding free shit is slavery as people have to work to produce/make that shit) and anyone on salary is a "wage slave" and that exchanging work for money, regardless of pay, is not a fair exchange...it's not a board full of "liberals," it's full of whiny man children complainers that just bitch about society and think they should be given free shit.

Neither party will ever provide them their lazy stoner communist utopia where you can sit on your ass and play video games rent and utility free, so I guess sorry if thinking you don't deserve to live life rent free and you should get off your ass and fucking do some work to contribute to society is too "right wing" for a bunch of fucking hippies.

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MajesticFerret
06/23/21 10:17:49 AM
#85:


ChocoboMogALT posted...
"I'm as much a victim as PoC, look at me!"

Can you actually quote anywhere where I imply this?

You have literally dozens of posts to quote from, if you weren't so full of shit your eyes were brown this should be an extremely easy task.

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matchboxsantana
06/23/21 10:17:56 AM
#86:


MajesticFerret posted...
Imagine me giving a flying fucking what communist 261 thinks. Anyone who can read anything I say can see I'm not a "hardcore" Conservative, this is just Commiefaqs where literally everything right of Bernie Bro and dumb shit like this:

Not to mention literally everyone on the entire board is a lazy communist that thinks rent should be free (nearly every member of that board has avidly defended this belief), all landlords are evil, slavery is totally ok as long as it benefits the lazy and disenfranchised (demanding free shit is slavery as people have to work to produce/make that shit) and anyone on salary is a "wage slave" and that exchanging work for money, regardless of pay, is not a fair exchange...it's not a board full of "liberals," it's full of whiny man children complainers that just bitch about society and think they should be given free shit.

Neither party will ever provide them their lazy stoner communist utopia where you can sit on your ass and play video games rent and utility free, so I guess sorry if thinking you don't deserve to live life rent free and you should get off your ass and fucking do some work to contribute to society is too "right wing" for a bunch of fucking hippies.

angry much?
All it took me was a single post so your mask would fall. You went from claiming you were on the fence about CRT to labelling the entire gamefaqs population as rabid lazy ass commie manchildren. That's quite the jump there.
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MedeaLysistrata
06/23/21 10:18:13 AM
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Just because Asian kids might do better in school, it doesnt mean they necessarily have a good school experience or that they are getting the most out of it

Idk just a thought.

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matchboxsantana
06/23/21 10:20:45 AM
#88:


MajesticFerret posted...
Can you actually quote anywhere where I imply this?

You have literally dozens of posts to quote from, if you weren't so full of shit your eyes were brown this should be an extremely easy task.

people have brown eyes because they're shit-eyes, you heard it first here, guys. No racial bro.
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MajesticFerret
06/23/21 10:30:31 AM
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matchboxsantana posted...
to labelling the entire gamefaqs population as rabid lazy ass commie manchildren.

Please learn to fucking read, my guy.

261 is full of lazy ass commie man children...not the ENTIRETY of gfaqs...because that statement is overwhelmingly true.

Go create a topic stating basic economic truths, like "rent being free makes no sense" and "being paid a salary isn't slavery" and you will literally get barraged by most of the most known and avid posters on that board if you want a litmus test on where that board stands politically.

Literal Biden is pretty much a hardcore MAGAist their bar for right wingdom is so low.

CE at least has more moderates and reasonable libs, but 261 is straight up about as left as it gets.

So yeah...kinda hard to take the peanut gallery seriously when a lot of the people with the low IQ ad homenem attacks have nothing intelligent to say and are most are comrade anti-cap grifters.

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MajesticFerret
06/23/21 10:33:55 AM
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matchboxsantana posted...
people have brown eyes because they're shit-eyes, you heard it first here, guys. No racial bro.

Imagine being so uninformed you've never heard this incredibly common saying and think it has anything to do with race lol

Go back to making stupid posts how hard work is 100% meaningless, comrade. Maybe you'll disenfranchise enough people they can join you in poverty.

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MedeaLysistrata
06/23/21 10:34:33 AM
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MajesticFerret posted...
Please learn to fucking read, my guy.

261 is full of lazy ass commie man children...not the ENTIRETY of gfaqs...because that statement is overwhelmingly true.

Go create a topic stating basic economic truths, like "rent being free makes no sense" and "being paid a salary isn't slavery" and you will literally get barraged by most of the most known and avid posters on that board if you want a litmus test on where that board stands politically.

Literal Biden is pretty much a hardcore MAGAist their bar for right wingdom is so low.

CE at least has more moderates and reasonable libs, but 261 is straight up about as left as it gets.

So yeah...kinda hard to take the peanut gallery seriously when a lot of the people with the low IQ ad homenem attacks have nothing intelligent to say and are most are comrade anti-cap grifters.
Why does rent being free make no sense? It could reasonably be free or socialized. "Basic economic truth" my ass, you just probably think progress is impossible

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matchboxsantana
06/23/21 10:38:10 AM
#93:


MajesticFerret posted...
Please learn to fucking read, my guy.

261 is full of lazy ass commie man children...not the ENTIRETY of gfaqs...because that statement is overwhelmingly true.

Go create a topic stating basic economic truths, like "rent being free makes no sense" and "being paid a salary isn't slavery" and you will literally get barraged by most of the most known and avid posters on that board if you want a litmus test on where that board stands politically.

Literal Biden is pretty much a hardcore MAGAist their bar for right wingdom is so low.

CE at least has more moderates and reasonable libs, but 261 is straight up about as left as it gets.

So yeah...kinda hard to take the peanut gallery seriously when a lot of the people with the low IQ ad homenem attacks have nothing intelligent to say and are most are comrade anti-cap grifters.

a low IQ ad homenem huh?

homenem.

Somebody tell him ;)
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matchboxsantana
06/23/21 10:39:00 AM
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MajesticFerret posted...
Go back to making stupid posts how hard work is 100% meaningless, comrade. Maybe you'll disenfranchise enough people they can join you in poverty.

I am actually pretty anti-communism and pro-capitalism, thank you. You assumed I was a commie because I don't believe in the MAGA racial stuff? Sad!
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legendary_zell
06/23/21 10:41:02 AM
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If you think the politics board on gamefaqs.gamespot.com is communist, I question your judgment and your ability to accurately perceive and interpret reality/written text.

There's probably like 5 communists on this entire website.

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MajesticFerret
06/23/21 10:41:22 AM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Why does rent being free make no sense?

Because a house costs finite resources and people's labor to build, neither of which you are entitled too, slave lording comrade.

You guys are totally ok with slavery the second it means you get to be lazy AF.

It could reasonably be free or socialized.

We have places where people can live rent free and apparently, this wasn't enough.

Rent must not only be free, but it has to be a desirable place to rent, in that someone else wants it so much more than you, they are willing to pay for it...yet you deserve it for free...

Starting to see why "rent being free" starts to look really dumb in application really quickly? Supply and demand. If you live in a highly desirable location/building, I want to live there, and if I'm willing to pay for it, I deserve it more than someone who is not.

you just probably think progress is impossible

I just think hyper idealistic communism is stupid and doesn't work and what you're pushing is stupid overly idealistic communism.

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matchboxsantana
06/23/21 10:43:00 AM
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legendary_zell posted...
If you think the politics board on gamefaqs.gamespot.com is communist, I question your judgment and your ability to accurately perceive and interpret reality/written text.

There's probably like 5 communists on this entire website.

I love how the MAGA crowd conflates everything they do not like with communism.

Racial justice? Communism! BLM? Communism! Pineapple in your pizza? Communism! Voting rights? Communism! Yet if you ask them about the subsidies to white farmers during the trump era? Not communism :)
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Antifar
06/23/21 10:43:24 AM
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I think it's also worth noting that CRT is basically the stuff of college level courses. Even before this manufactured outrage, it wasn't being taught to elementary school kids.

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MajesticFerret
06/23/21 10:44:02 AM
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legendary_zell posted...
If you think the politics board on gamefaqs.gamespot.com is communist, I question your judgment and your ability to accurately perceive and interpret reality/written text.

There's probably like 5 communists on this entire website.

Go post the topics that I said then.

I already have a guy in here saying rent should be free. Rent being free under a capitalist system is almost impossible, but is something heavily pushed in Marxism.

So these people aren't "identified" communists, they just adhere to extremely commonly pushed communist utopia principles...gotcha.

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matchboxsantana
06/23/21 10:45:19 AM
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@MajesticFerret how do you feel about George Zimmerman? Derek Chauvin? Donald Trump? Kyle Rittenhouse? The Proud Boys? Putin?

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MajesticFerret
06/23/21 10:46:13 AM
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matchboxsantana posted...
I love how the MAGA crowd conflates everything they do not like with communism.

I love how really dumb posters with no good arguments conflate not agreeing with you on one thing as surely you must be MAGA and gas lighting for it.

So do you actually have any arguments for the subject at hand, or should I just start marking your posts as off topic and move on?

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