Current Events > Charles Barkley (my Favorite NBA analyst) leaving TNT due to Cancel Culture

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PipeTar
06/16/21 3:19:01 PM
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https://www.al.com/auburnbasketball/2021/06/charles-barkley-quitting-inside-the-nba-at-60-blames-cancel-culture-cant-have-fun-nowadays.html

Barkley, 58, said Turner has told him to stop with his long-running joke where he makes fun of the women of San Antonio.
If you crack a joke the wrong way, theyre like, Oh, no, no, no, you crossed the line, Barkley said. I mean, they wont even let me talk about San Antonio anymore when Im always talking about their big ole women down in San Antonio. Theyre like, Charles, we got one lady (who) wrote an article. Im like, First of all, I didnt call anybody personally fat in San Antonio; I was just joking around.

Weve been having fun with this for probably 1015 years. We go to San Antonio; the people are having a blast with it. The people in San Antonio had T-shirts made up. Barkley clearly is frustrated.

You cant even have fun nowadays without these characters trying to get you canceled and things like that, he said.
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ModLogic
06/16/21 3:19:54 PM
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meralonne
06/16/21 3:20:00 PM
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They should've cancelled him years ago because he's fucking awful to listen to.

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Blue_Inigo
06/16/21 3:20:29 PM
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Barkley is being a crybaby

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R1masher
06/16/21 3:20:40 PM
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maybe if he got a ring theyd let him say shit

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BilalPowell
06/16/21 3:21:06 PM
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Damn he's synonymous with that show.

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PipeTar
06/16/21 3:21:07 PM
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meralonne posted...
They should've cancelled him years ago because he's fucking awful to listen to.
He is hilarious, and his chemistry with the team is genuinely great
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Everyonedies
06/16/21 3:21:08 PM
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Remember when a bunch of middle school kids kicked his ass at basketball? LMAO

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wholeheartedly
06/16/21 3:21:12 PM
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Well yeah, the station has to run ads, your salary is paid by ads, you dont call the shots

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Veggeta X
06/16/21 3:22:05 PM
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He's working for 2 more years or so he claims.

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Broseph_Stalin
06/16/21 3:22:08 PM
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meralonne posted...
They should've cancelled him years ago because he's fucking awful to listen to.

shut the fuck up
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Kolibri X
06/16/21 3:22:26 PM
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Barkley is awesome. One of the realest dudes out there.

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PipeTar
06/16/21 3:23:08 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
He's working for 2 more years or so he claims.
Thank goodness. That is good to hear
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meralonne
06/16/21 3:23:41 PM
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PipeTar posted...
He is hilarious, and his chemistry with the team is genuinely great
It's great that you like him. I find him fucking annoying.

Broseph_Stalin posted...
shut the fuck up
no u

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TroutPaste
06/16/21 3:24:24 PM
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Yeah they've always been trolls on that show. It's a good thing. Maybe he did notice a difference with social media in the past few years

Plus he's not actually quitting, he was already quitting at 60

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Compsognathus
06/16/21 3:25:12 PM
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We are gonna get Chaos Dunked on his way out.

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PatrickMahomes
06/16/21 3:27:27 PM
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what a fucking joke, that's literally the only basketball show worth watching. hell the only sports show in general, they're all just terrible

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BilalPowell
06/16/21 3:27:56 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
what a fucking joke, that's literally the only basketball show worth watching. hell the only sports show in general, they're all just terrible
But NFL Primetime

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PipeTar
06/16/21 3:29:13 PM
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I am happy to at least hear he might stay on for 2 more years...but this sucks! He makes Basketball more fun
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R1masher
06/16/21 3:31:14 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
what a fucking joke, that's literally the only basketball show worth watching. hell the only sports show in general, they're all just terrible

first take is pretty good, Stephan A and Max lulz

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Robot2600
06/16/21 3:31:47 PM
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He's doing this to himself.

Even if it was fine 10-15 years running, if people are upset by it now just apologize and say you won't do it again and literally it's non-news.

Only when people want to die on stupid hills do they get cancelled.

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BilalPowell
06/16/21 3:32:47 PM
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R1masher posted...
first take is pretty good, Stephan A and Max lulz
First Take is too much politics not enough sports

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Giant_Aspirin
06/16/21 3:33:07 PM
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what "jokes" are they talking about?

edit: some info https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Charles-Barkley-fat-shaming-san-antonio-15927782.php

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PipeTar
06/16/21 3:33:31 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
He's doing this to himself.

Even if it was fine 10-15 years running, if people are upset by it now just apologize and say you won't do it again and literally it's non-news.

Only when people want to die on stupid hills do they get cancelled.

Americans should be free to say whatever they want, save for imminently endangering someone or something.

Maybe you should move to China if you enjoy censoring speech.
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Giant_Aspirin
06/16/21 3:35:40 PM
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PipeTar posted...
Americans should be free to say whatever they want, save for imminently endangering someone or something.

Maybe you should move to China if you enjoy censoring speech.

they are free to say whatever they want. and people are free to have opinions about what was said. when he says "the women of San Antonio are fat cows" he should expect a reaction. he's basically doing what a child does when an adult says "don't say that because it's mean". freedom to speak does not mean freedom from consequences of your actions. i dont know why so many people struggle with this.

oh, i know why:

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PatrickMahomes
06/16/21 3:36:54 PM
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BilalPowell posted...
But NFL Primetime
same garbage, though slightly better because they dont have the stupid forced argument crap like stephen-a-smith show whatever it's called. it's all surface level boring takes that are 72 hours behind twitter

the ONLY other good show is "NFL Matchup on ESPN" because they actually deep dive into the Xs and Os of what makes a team good or bad on a given week. and it airs at like 4AM or some stupid time like that.

everything else... "will rodgers report to camp???" "will julio push the titans to a super bowl appearance??" (lmfao not while the chiefs exist) etc.

and i get it's the offseason so NFL news is pretty sparse, but it's like this during the season as well. just nothing but surface level takes and boring-ass arguments

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Robot2600
06/16/21 3:37:00 PM
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PipeTar posted...
Americans should be free to say whatever they want, save for imminently endangering someone or something.

Maybe you should move to China if you enjoy censoring speech.

Then shouldn't people be free to say that something someone else said upsets them?

What makes one person's speech better than another's in this case?

It's a huge straw man to say that all speech is without consequences. We aren't throwing Barkley in jail or suggesting anything like that.

People are free to talk, and people are free to respond as well.

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Freddie_Mercury
06/16/21 3:37:06 PM
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R1masher
06/16/21 3:37:15 PM
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BilalPowell posted...
First Take is too much politics not enough sports

is it, I just watch the basketball stuff on YouTube

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PipeTar
06/16/21 3:38:02 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted... they are free to say whatever they want. and people are free to have opinions about what was said. freedom to speak does not mean freedom from consequences of your actions.


Right, and you want consequences for the action of speaking freely.

In other words, maybe it is time for you to move to China and lick the boots of your censorship overlord masters.

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legendary_zell
06/16/21 3:38:16 PM
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No one is censoring anything. They're merely criticizing him for the things he says. Exercising their rights. He has the right and the ability to ignore them or change, depending on what he wants to do.

These people have no power over him. We wouldn't have even known that they said anything unless he whined about it and tried to play the victim. He's been making the same joke for literally over a decade and this is the first time we're hearing anything about cancelation. No one is forcing him to quit or to do anything he doesn't want to do.

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BilalPowell
06/16/21 3:38:29 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
same garbage, though slightly better because they dont have the stupid forced argument crap like stephen-a-smith show whatever it's called. it's all surface level boring takes that are 72 hours behind twitter

the ONLY other good show is "NFL Matchup on ESPN" because they actually deep dive into the Xs and Os of what makes a team good or bad on a given week. and it airs at like 4AM or some stupid time like that.

everything else... "will rodgers report to camp???" "will julio push the titans to a super bowl appearance??" (lmfao not while the chiefs exist) etc.

and i get it's the offseason so NFL news is pretty sparse, but it's like this during the season as well. just nothing but surface level takes and boring-ass arguments
That sounds like NFL Live. NFL Primetime is just the game highlights with the fun music and Crazy Chris Berman

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Giant_Aspirin
06/16/21 3:38:58 PM
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PipeTar posted...
Right, and you want consequences for the action of speaking freely.

welcome to the adult world. maybe you'll adjust to it after you've been here a while. if not, you'll just stay angry on the internet.

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PipeTar
06/16/21 3:39:15 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
Then shouldn't people be free to say that something someone else said upsets them?

no, they should be free to change the channel.

... not call-in to the network and complain about a joke.
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PipeTar
06/16/21 3:39:40 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
welcome to the adult world. maybe you'll adjust to it after you've been here a while. if not, you'll just stay angry on the internet.
And maybe you'll love China. They censor Google over there. Don't worry, you won't see any mean sentences in China.
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Giant_Aspirin
06/16/21 3:40:31 PM
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PipeTar posted...


no, they should be free to change the channel.

... not call-in to the network and complain about a joke.

why don't you be a good little conserative and start your own TV network where the anchors can crack jokes at everyone's expense?

i have no idea why im still entertaining this obvious troll. shame on me.

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buddhamonster
06/16/21 3:40:43 PM
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PipeTar posted...
Right, and you want consequences for the action of speaking freely.

In other words, maybe it is time for you to move to China and lick the boots of your censorship overlord masters.
What the fuck are you talking about? This is about capitalism. As in, the NBA is sick of getting attacked by their ADVERTISERS because some dumbass can't follow basic human decency and not say stupid shit while being a mouthpiece for a company that probably pays him millions of dollars.

He's not being censored. He's not being canceled. He's being told to stop being an asshole while on the clock.

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Murphiroth
06/16/21 3:41:24 PM
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PipeTar posted...


no, they should be free to change the channel.

... not call-in to the network and complain about a joke.

So essentially only certain people can speak freely, gotcha.
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berlyman101
06/16/21 3:41:42 PM
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I doubt he quits for a long time. It's something to do and it's easy money for him.

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PipeTar
06/16/21 3:42:37 PM
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metallica846 posted...
There will always be consequences for speaking freely. Chucks job is to sell advertisements whether he likes it or not. Fucking with the sponsors will get you fired from your job.

The consequences arent being put in prison.
I am not arguing with you that there ARE consequences for speaking freely.

I am arguing that the world would be better if there ARE NOT consequences for speaking freely, and people just changed the channel or...you know...got a life or whatever.

I hope that helps clarify my stance. Yes, in the current world of modern day 2021 America people get canceled for calling someone fat or whatever the case may be.

I am saying it should not be that way.
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legendary_zell
06/16/21 3:45:59 PM
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PipeTar posted...
I am not arguing with you that there ARE consequences for speaking freely.

I am arguing that the world would be better if there ARE NOT consequences for speaking freely, and people just changed the channel or...you know...got a life or whatever.

I hope that helps clarify my stance. Yes, in the current world of modern day 2021 America people get canceled for calling someone fat or whatever the case may be.

I am saying it should not be that way.

So you want a world in which people are attacked but don't respond. Why do you think that would be better? That's the world we were just in earlier in your lifetime and it absolutely was not better. People got shit on without recourse and discriminated against.

All that's changed is that you can't be an asshole to people unnecessarily with total immunity.


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Giant_Aspirin
06/16/21 3:46:27 PM
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buddhamonster posted...
He's not being censored. He's not being canceled. He's being told to stop being an asshole while on the clock.

isn't it funny how conservatives are often the first people to defend an employer's right to fire an employee for any reason they see fit?

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meralonne
06/16/21 3:46:30 PM
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If, as an advertiser trying to sell a product, I'm paying for a guy to talk about basketball and he instead insults the people I'm trying to sell my product to, you're damn right I'm going to cancel paying the guy fucking with my revenue stream.

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PipeTar
06/16/21 3:46:52 PM
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I want a world in which a fat person acknowledges "I am morbidly fucking obese and fat as fuck"

instead of complaining to someone's boss or complaining online about being called fat.

Yes, correct.

I want a stand up comedian to be able to make fat jokes without being cancelled for it.
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Medussa
06/16/21 3:47:18 PM
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oh, won't somebody please think of the bullies!

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creativerealms
06/16/21 3:47:25 PM
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Actions having consequences isn't cancel culture.

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