Current Events > I'm pretty anxious for the next Marvel phase.

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Is Black Widow going to be a theater/streaming service simultaneous release? And is What If? going to be a show or movie?

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jon1012 posted...

Is Black Widow going to be a theater/streaming service simultaneous release?

yes

jon1012 posted...

And is What If? going to be a show or movie?

d+ series

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I dont even think about it lol

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Will the next phase include superman?

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skermac posted...

Will the next phase include superman?

um, he's DC comics. do you think he'll be in a Marvel movie?

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jon1012 posted...

um, he's DC comics. do you think he'll be in a Marvel movie?

Well he was in Thor: The Dark World so it isn't impossible

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hmm. ok. cool.

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Rumor is the next Thanos level threat to the MCU will be a guy named Kang the Conqueror. I have never read any comics involving him but supposedly he's similar in power to Thanos. Supposedly he will be introduced soon in one of the upcoming movies and be involved for a long time like Thanos was

I looked up a little bit on Kang the Conqueror. Interesting.

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I see a lot of people say they're not excited for the MCU since the OG Avengers are mostly gone. But there's just soooo much to look forward to now that they're going more cosmic/multiversal

Not to mention the integration of the X-Men, Fantastic Four and FINALLY She-Hulk and Moon Knight

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The MCU killed my 30+year love of reading the comics. Oversaturation combined with making the books match the movies instead of vice versa destroyed my passion.

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Zikten posted...

Rumor is the next Thanos level threat to the MCU will be a guy named Kang the Conqueror. I have never read any comics involving him but supposedly he's similar in power to Thanos. Supposedly he will be introduced soon in one of the upcoming movies and be involved for a long time like Thanos was

Aaaannnnnnddddd here is exhibit Z of why my passion is dead.

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Black Widow is never getting released lol

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metallica846 posted...

Your passion is dead because the movies are introducing these characters to new people?

No, because people with no knowledge of the characters discuss them as if they do, Kang and Thanos dont have remotely similar power sets, motives, etc. I was a 30 book a month guy for decades, sorry that I dont like how my preferred medium was ripped apart to appease casuals, I dont care that the MCU exists, I care that it forever ruined the source material.

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Unspecified_NPC posted...

Well he was in Thor: The Dark World so it isn't impossible

Wh...what? I'm sure this is a joke I'm not getting but I need to know

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Conception616 posted...

No, because people with no knowledge of the characters discuss them as if they do.

He never claimed that he did though?

I dunno, sounds like your beef is that it's now popular among casual audiences


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Conception616 posted...

No, because people with no knowledge of the characters discuss them as if they do, Kang and Thanos dont have remotely similar power sets, motives, etc. I was a 30 book a month guy for decades, sorry that I dont like how my preferred medium was ripped apart to appease casuals, I dont care that the MCU exists, I care that it forever ruined the source material.

Nerd

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

He never claimed that he did though?

I dunno, sounds like your beef is that it's now popular among casual audiences

Which I very clearly explained. Casuals dont buy the books, so what was the point of making the books match the movies?

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Kang is basically just a future Tony Stark type but super fucking smarter and can do time travel without like... fucking up time.
Like literally down to having super armor
And is evil and is a galactic conqueror with his full title being Kang the Conqueror

Conception616 posted...

No, because people with no knowledge of the characters discuss them as if they do, Kang and Thanos dont have remotely similar power sets, motives, etc. I was a 30 book a month guy for decades, sorry that I dont like how my preferred medium was ripped apart to appease casuals, I dont care that the MCU exists, I care that it forever ruined the source material.

The source material is there and is completely unchanged do you have a melty every time a new comic reboot comes out and doesnt tell the exact same stories over and over? This is no different.

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Conception616 posted...

Which I very clearly explained. Casuals dont buy the books, so what was the point of making the books match the movies?

Because the movies are very clearly more popular.


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nothanks1 posted...

Kang is basically just a future Tony Stark type but super fucking smarter and can do time travel without like... fucking up time.
Like literally down to having super armor
And is evil and is a galactic conqueror with his full title being Kang the Conqueror

There's also A BUNCH of different versions of Kang all with their own goals and motivations.

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Chicken posted...

The source material is there and is completely unchanged do you have a melty every time a new comic reboot comes out and doesnt tell the exact same stories over and over? This is no different.

Im far too old to use terms like melty and Im pretty calmly explaining my problem with the MCU, its rabid casual fanboys of the movies who cant take the slightest criticism.

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Movies being made for bigger audiences while sticking mostly to the source material is still pretty fucking good
Like Avengers = great
Wolverine 1 = terrible
Wolverine 2 = okay the terrible
Wolverine 3 = pretty fucking great
Especially what they did with Laura being Laura as opposed to a smirky one liner kid who needs help all the time

Likek I get it, you're trolling but at least troll well

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

There's also A BUNCH of different versions of Kang all with their own goals and motivations.

I wasn't going to mention that since I didn't think it'd crop up but now that I think about it, that could be a sincere thing they do and it could be interesting to see one ally with the heroes.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Because the movies are very clearly more popular.

Good lord, there is clearly no reasoning with you. Casuals DONT buy the books, all Marvel has done is alienate the already dying fan base of their books. Well, Disney is doing so, more accurately.

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Chicken posted...

The source material is there and is completely unchanged do you have a melty every time a new comic reboot comes out and doesnt tell the exact same stories over and over? This is no different.

Right. There's been some synergy wit the MCU but it's less than 1% of the overall Marvel comics universe. The vast majority of comics are the same as always. Which makes me doubt this person has actually been a fan of them at all.

Wonder what the next level threat will be? What will Kang bring that can be on Thanos level?

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Fucking casuals liking what I like. I liked it first dammit >:(

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Conception616 posted...

Im far too old to use terms like melty and Im pretty calmly explaining my problem with the MCU, its rabid casual fanboys of the movies who cant take the slightest criticism.

Your problem with the MCU is silly.

I was a Marvel fan long before I was an MCU fan and I'm not butthurt that the Marvel Universe is now appealing to casual audiences.

The gatekeeping is unnecessary.

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DD Divine posted...

Wonder what the next level threat will be? What will Kang bring that can be on Thanos level?

It'll start up slow I imagine.
Like he'll show up al Loki style kinda stuff
Just targeting one planet/area then it'll evolve into needing more heroes to deal with.

DD Divine posted...

Wonder what the next level threat will be? What will Kang bring that can be on Thanos level?

Kang controls time and is a pretty huge threat.

But he doesn't have to be on "Thanos level" to be a legitimate threat. You don't have to go bigger to tell a good story.

DD Divine posted...

Wonder what the next level threat will be? What will Kang bring that can be on Thanos level?

Kang is a threat that spans multiple timelines/universes.

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As a realistic Marvel fanboy, as in the comics, not the filthy MCU my only terms of agreement is: if we get a live action Squirrel Girl complete with a big fluffy tail and buck teeth then and only then will I fanboy over the MCU

just kidding they won me over with the fact they let X-23 be more than a whiny brat

Conception616 posted...

rabid casual fanboys

The weird thing is this seems to be an oxymoron, but I know exactly what you're talking about, and it's a real phenomenon lmao


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lolife67 posted...

Kang controls time and is a pretty huge threat.

But he doesn't have to be on "Thanos level" to be a legitimate threat. You don't have to go bigger to tell a good story.

I guess thats true. Either way Im excited

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Conception616 posted...

Good lord, there is clearly no reasoning with you. Casuals DONT buy the books, all Marvel has done is alienate the already dying fan base of their books. Well, Disney is doing so, more accurately.

Casuals don't buy the books because there's 80 something years of Marvel backstory they'd have to filter through and nobody has time for that shit.

They're doing minor tweaks so the characters in the books will be more familiar to someone with an interest in the characters. And honestly, many characters are better in the MCU than they ever were in the comics. And a lot of characters benefitted significantly from the popularity bump they got from the MCU, like the Guardians.

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Tony Stark was a c-lister for 40 years, and wasnt known for wisecracks. The 616 version of him is now RDJ, its NOT the same character. I dont know why this is so hard to understand, the movies are loosely based on the Ultimate versions of the characters, which is fine, there is no reason to make those characters the new canon for 616.

The MCU has turned characters into wisecracking, cookie cutter versions of themselves, and without their various power sets, many of them could essentially be the same character.

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Oh boy I smelled a melty in here

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Casuals don't buy the books because there's 80 something years of Marvel backstory they'd have to filter through and nobody has time for that shit.

Serious question for you: wasnt this the entire point of the Ultimate Universe?


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Conception616 posted...

Tony Stark is a c-lister for 40 years, and isnt known for wisecracks. The 616 version of him is now RDJ, its NOT the same character. I dont know why this is so hard to understand, the movies are loosely based on the Ultimate versions of the characters, which is fine, there is no reason to make those characters the new canon for 616.

The MCU has turned characters into wisecracking, cookie cutter versions of themselves, and without their various power sets, many of them could essentially be the same character.

Tony and Nick Fury, Jr are the only real examples of movie synergy in the comics. Meanwhile, Steve, Thor, T'Challa, Shuri, Gamora, Hulk, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Spidey, etc are all the same characters in comics that they've always been. So you're being hyperbolic and overreacting.

Conception616 posted...

wasnt this the entire point of the Ultimate Universe?

It... really, really wasn't.
You're confusing it with Marvel Now! which literally was a redesign to get new readers.

Conception616 posted...

Tony Stark was a c-lister for 40 years, and wasnt known for wisecracks. The 616 version of him is now RDJ, its NOT the same character.

And honestly, it was for the better.

You also have to keep in mind Iron-Man came out in the fucking 60s and maybe certain aspects of his character don't translate well to modern stories in the first place.

Conception616 posted...

The MCU has turned characters into wisecracking, cookie cutter versions of themselves, and without their various power sets, many of them could essentially be the same character.

Curious to see what characters you think were "ruined" by the MCU, because you sound an awful lot like an old man yelling at clouds.

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Conception616 posted...

Serious question for you: wasnt this the entire point of the Ultimate Universe?

Perhaps. But everything outside of Ultimate Spider-Man ended up being a disaster.

If you want to talk about characters being ruined, maybe you should look at the Ultimate Universe first.

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nothanks1 posted...

It... really, really wasn't.
You're confusing it with Marvel Now! which literally was a redesign to get new readers.

Im not confusing it at all. The Ultimate Universe came on the heels of superhero movies starting to get popular 20 years ago, and it used already established properties with new backstories for newer readers. But Im not going to sit here and debate with one of the all time worst trolls on this board.

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Perhaps. But everything outside of Ultimate Spider-Man ended up being a disaster.

If you want to talk about characters being ruined, maybe you should look at the Ultimate Universe first.

LOL, Im not saying it was a great product overall, although some of the early X-Men stuff was also good. Im simply pointing out the sole reason the Ultimate Universe existed, it was to attract moviegoing casuals.

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