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daynlokki
06/14/21 6:44:32 PM
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I guess we will have to look to the record books for the definitive cannon of who won that year!
You mean the ones that also show the Astros cheated to get it? I mean, ya, you get the trophy. Literally nobody outside of Houston fans think you deserve said trophy and will act like it never happened. Because they couldnt get there and win without cheating. Thats like winning the heavyweight title using rigged gloves. Ya, congrats, you won. Everyone will forever call you a cheater for it though. If the MLB had balls they would strip the title that year. Any other sport would for massive cheating.
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The Trent
06/14/21 6:45:26 PM
#52:


daynlokki posted...
You mean the ones that also show the Astros cheated to get it? I mean, ya, you get the trophy. Literally nobody outside of Houston fans think you deserve said trophy and will act like it never happened. Because they couldnt get there and win without cheating. Thats like winning the heavyweight title using rigged gloves. Ya, congrats, you won. Everyone will forever call you a cheater for it though. If the MLB had balls they would strip the title that year. Any other sport would for massive cheating.

I'm sorry you're upset
Would talking about the OP and the 2021 Astros offense make you feel better?

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daynlokki
06/14/21 6:50:23 PM
#53:


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I'm sorry you're upset
Would talking about the OP and the 2021 Astros offense make you feel better?
Based on the past they probably just found a different way to cheat. Cant count on them having stats like that in a legit fashion. Fully expect this to hurt several HOF cases going forward as well.
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The Trent
06/14/21 6:51:32 PM
#54:


daynlokki posted...
Based on the past they probably just found a different way to cheat. Cant count on them having stats like that in a legit fashion. Fully expect this to hurt several HOF cases going forward as well.


Wow that seems unfair

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daynlokki
06/14/21 6:53:12 PM
#55:


The Trent posted...
Wow that seems unfair
When you cheat, you tend not to make the Hall. Ask Bonds, Clemons and all of them how that works.
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The Trent
06/14/21 6:54:11 PM
#56:


daynlokki posted...
When you cheat, you tend not to make the Hall. Ask Bonds, Clemons and all of them how that works.

Can't nobody tell the future!

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SevenTenths
06/14/21 6:54:21 PM
#57:


So mr loki what do think of world series champions singing trevor bauer who openly cheated to win a cy young?

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The Trent
06/14/21 6:54:37 PM
#58:


SevenTenths posted...
So mr loki what do think of world series champions singing trevor bauer who openly cheated to win a cy young?

Seems bad imo

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Simp
06/14/21 6:55:13 PM
#59:


how bout that Cesar Cedeno

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Ryven
06/14/21 6:56:57 PM
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Im enjoying Altuve getting booed on every at bat, ngl

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The Trent
06/14/21 6:57:40 PM
#61:


Ryven posted...
Im enjoying Altuve getting booed on every at bat, ngl

His numbers aren't too bothered by it this year so far
Hes slotted into leadoff just fine really

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daynlokki
06/14/21 6:58:50 PM
#62:


SevenTenths posted...
So mr loki what do think of world series champions singing trevor bauer who openly cheated to win a cy young?
That he cheated and shouldnt get the award. You shouldnt be awarded for cheating in sports. Period. All Houston did was make a large chunk of baseball fans no longer give a fuck about the sport.
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The Trent
06/14/21 6:59:40 PM
#63:


lol those dastardly Astros killed baseball

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daynlokki
06/14/21 7:01:22 PM
#64:


The Trent posted...
lol those dastardly Astros killed baseball
Since their cheating scandal and the lack of punishment came down, baseball has lost a lot of fans. Correlation at best but still, people dont give two shits about a league that hand waives cheating like its nothing.
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The Trent
06/14/21 7:01:58 PM
#65:


daynlokki posted...
Since their cheating scandal and the lack of punishment came down, baseball has lost a lot of fans. Correlation at best but still, people dont give two shits about a league that hand waives cheating like its nothing.

Lol say hello to the 90s friend

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daynlokki
06/14/21 7:03:02 PM
#66:


The Trent posted...
Lol say hello to the 90s friend
Yup. Baseball was way more popular then when compared to now. The sport loses fans every major cheating scandal.
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The Trent
06/14/21 7:03:39 PM
#67:


Baseballs long history of cheating catching up to it!

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SevenTenths
06/14/21 7:04:41 PM
#68:


daynlokki posted...
That he cheated and shouldnt get the award. You shouldnt be awarded for cheating in sports. Period. All Houston did was make a large chunk of baseball fans no longer give a fuck about the sport.

So you think the doyers have no problem signing a cheater and the other 39 players on the 40 man roster are all legitimate non cheaters?

My cubs won a world series with two domestic abusers being apart of why. Baseball is full of morally bankrupt people. Because in part their commissioners happily sweep as much under the rug as possible.

If mlb is going to let people cheat, my Cubs better be cheating too. Sammy Sosa's cheated and he's still my favorite player. The homerun race is why I'm a baseball fan.

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daynlokki
06/14/21 7:05:31 PM
#69:


SevenTenths posted...
So you think the doyers have no problem signing a cheater and the other 39 players on the 40 man roster are all legitimate non cheaters?

My cubs won a world series with two domestic abusers being apart of why. Baseball is full of morally bankrupt people. Because in part their commissioners happily sweep as much under the rug as possible.

If mlb is going to let people cheat, my Cubs better be cheating too. Sammy Sosa's cheated and he's still my favorite player. The homerun race is why I'm a baseball fan.
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SevenTenths
06/14/21 7:07:52 PM
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Except cheating gains fans. Steroids injected new life into baseball after the strike actually cost them fans.

Attendance has stayed around the same level since the last expansion teams.

Only tv ratings are down and that's because tv is down for everyone. Baseball needs to end black out restrictions and embrace mlb.tv

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daynlokki
06/14/21 7:09:16 PM
#71:


SevenTenths posted...
Except cheating gains fans. Steroids injected new life into baseball after the strike actually cost them fans.

Attendance has stayed around the same level since the last expansion teams.

Only tv ratings are down and that's because tv is down for everyone. Baseball needs to end black out restrictions and embrace mlb.tv
There has been a major dip in tv ratings for baseball after every recent cheating scandal.
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SevenTenths
06/14/21 7:17:19 PM
#72:


Except there hasnt.

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daynlokki
06/14/21 7:32:38 PM
#73:


SevenTenths posted...
Except there hasnt.
Feel free to post any citations proving this not occuring. I'd be willing to at least take a look.
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The Trent
06/14/21 7:33:00 PM
#74:


I've done enough research in the op for all of us okay nerds

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The Trent
06/14/21 7:38:35 PM
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SevenTenths
06/14/21 8:00:45 PM
#76:


daynlokki posted...
Feel free to post any citations proving this not occuring. I'd be willing to at least take a look.

Google.com

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daynlokki
06/14/21 8:03:39 PM
#77:


SevenTenths posted...
Google.com
So you have no citation other than just trust me bro. Thats from the Guesswho33 school of citation right there. Should TOTALLY take you seriously
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Payzmaykr
06/14/21 8:05:18 PM
#78:


Go Stros!

I used to be a huge fan back in the Biggio/Bagwell era and quit watching a year or two after they made it to the WS. That was when everyone quit/got fired/got traded and then when they went to the AL, I didnt really know anyone on the team anymore.
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Axiom
06/14/21 8:07:17 PM
#79:


This topic belongs in a garbage can

Lmao
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The Trent
06/14/21 8:11:41 PM
#80:


Axiom posted...
This topic belongs in a garbage can

Lmao

Lol I get it

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SevenTenths
06/14/21 8:12:44 PM
#81:


daynlokki posted...
So you have no citation other than just trust me bro

Compared to your sources of the Astros are the only team in baseball to cheat. Yeah I'll take mine.

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The Trent
06/14/21 8:14:09 PM
#82:


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i wonder if we had a really bad ass away-game sign stealing operation that has yet to come to light?

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daynlokki
06/14/21 8:15:50 PM
#83:


SevenTenths posted...
Compared to your sources of the Astros are the only team in baseball to cheat. Yeah I'll take mine.
Yes because Ive EVER said that despite literally calling out other players for cheating. You may need to work on your reading skills if you think I believe the astros are the only ones to cheat.
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The Trent
06/14/21 8:16:42 PM
#84:


baseball has a real cheating problem
it's not really the astros fault really

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daynlokki
06/14/21 8:17:47 PM
#85:


The Trent posted...
baseball has a real cheating problem
it's not really the astros fault really
No its sportwide. Also why kids arent as into baseball as they used to be
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The Trent
06/14/21 8:18:27 PM
#86:


yeah it's society
not the astros

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daynlokki
06/14/21 8:18:43 PM
#87:


The Trent posted...
yeah it's society
not the astros
Or its both
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The Trent
06/14/21 8:19:08 PM
#88:


okay, but probably like 90-10 split

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SevenTenths
06/14/21 8:32:20 PM
#89:


daynlokki posted...
You may need to work on your reading skills if you think I believe the astros are the only ones to cheat.

Where you think the Astros were the only team cheating when they won. Where you think bauer is the only one cheating on the defending champions.

I read fine, that's why I can respond to what written and you can post something so stupid like saying cheating is bad for baseball when steroids brought record tv ratings...that somehow was a massive drop according to your TV ratings drop with every scandal.
daynlokki posted...
Also why kids arent as into baseball as they used to be

Hey look. More unsourced lies.

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daynlokki
06/14/21 8:41:40 PM
#90:


SevenTenths posted...
Where you think the Astros were the only team cheating when they won. Where you think bauer is the only one cheating on the defending champions.

I read fine, that's why I can respond to what written and you can post something so stupid like saying cheating is bad for baseball when steroids brought record tv ratings...that somehow was a massive drop according to your TV ratings drop with every scandal.

Hey look. More unsourced lies.
Youre making assumptions in your first paragraph. I said none of that. The 90s had record ratings, then the steroid shit came out and they dropped like a rock.

Lol, unsourced lies. Unlike you, I can post actual sources
https://www.ajc.com/sports/baseball/little-league-baseball-faces-declining-participation/bTzEuMq7XVLZRthhDQFaIP/?outputType=amp

I like this quote too:
Since 2015 the last year the major leagues saw a minor increase in fans at ballparks through 2019, attendance dropped 7.14%. That's a loss of 5.2 million fans.

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The Trent
06/14/21 9:02:14 PM
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I also did more research



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SevenTenths
06/14/21 9:20:23 PM
#92:


daynlokki posted...
. The 90s had record ratings, then the steroid shit came out and they dropped like a rock.

Everyone knew they were using steroids in the 90s. Baseball ratings have dropped like everything. Football was the only sport for a while that didn't fall off a cliff.

And read your own articles, which has absolutley nothing to support your false claim. Just like you have absolutely nothing to support nearly everything you say

People started doing this travel-ball thing, and thats sort of led to the slow death of the rec league
As Little League has declined, travel baseball has grown.



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daynlokki
06/14/21 9:40:48 PM
#93:


SevenTenths posted...
Everyone knew they were using steroids in the 90s. Baseball ratings have dropped like everything. Football was the only sport for a while that didn't fall off a cliff.

And read your own articles, which has absolutley nothing to support your false claim. Just like you have absolutely nothing to support nearly everything you say
Ya that may be true for some states. Where I live there really arent travel teams. There also is no little league here despite having a little league World Series champion from my neighborhood in the last 20 years. Kids play soccer instead. Hell, middle schools dont even have teams anymore. Sports dont really start until high school now.

Weird you cherry picked at things but left this part out:
In some cases, those leagues thrive. In other cases, they also face a decline.

Or this portion:
The cost for a season at Athens Little League is approximately $75, said David Meyers, a former board member and president of Athens Little League.
Travel-ball participation costs vary, but a review of costs for Atlanta-area teams show they generally average $1,000 to $3,000 per season.

Yes because everyone that can afford the $75 can also equally afford $1,000-3,000 per season. Travel league ball does not offset the loss of players from the little league.
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SevenTenths
06/14/21 9:57:44 PM
#94:


daynlokki posted...
Ya that may be true for some states. Where I live there really arent travel teams

So we're immediately back to sourceless claims from a proven untrustworthy source, who didn't even read anything but the headline of the source has tried to provide.

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daynlokki
06/14/21 10:07:21 PM
#95:


SevenTenths posted...
So we're immediately back to sourceless claims from a proven untrustworthy source, who didn't even read anything but the headline of the source has tried to provide.
Notice you left out everything else to continue to push a false narrative. Trump supporter? Its like you cant refute the points being made so you have to attempt (poorly, like literally my 12 year old is better at this) to make it personal. All it does is show how full of shit you are so win-win for me.
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The Trent
06/14/21 10:08:36 PM
#96:


are we still talking about how great the 2021 houston Astros offense is looking or

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SevenTenths
06/14/21 10:31:54 PM
#97:


daynlokki posted...
Notice you left out everything else to continue to push a false narrative

The everything that has nothing to do with your false claims of cheating being the reason for dealing ratings(that went up during cheating then declined at similar rates to everything on tv except footba) and youth baseball(that is from the raise of more expensive travel leagues)? Yeah I don't follow people when they try to set up new goal post rather than admit they were taking out of their ass.

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daynlokki
06/14/21 10:44:35 PM
#98:


SevenTenths posted...
The everything that has nothing to do with your false claims of cheating being the reason for dealing ratings(that went up during cheating then declined at similar rates to everything on tv except footba) and youth baseball(that is from the raise of more expensive travel leagues)? Yeah I don't follow people when they try to set up new goal post rather than admit they were taking out of their ass.
Based on what youre writing you just dont follow what people say period. Still waiting for literally any citation from you besides talking out of your ass. The lack of one just shows you cant even find it.
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SevenTenths
06/14/21 10:45:54 PM
#99:


daynlokki posted...
Still waiting for literally any citation from you besides talking out of your ass

daynlokki posted...


https://www.ajc.com/sports/baseball/little-league-baseball-faces-declining-participation/bTzEuMq7XVLZRthhDQFaIP/?outputType=amp



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gatorsPENSbucs
06/14/21 10:50:18 PM
#100:


The Trent posted...
baseball has a real cheating problem
it's not really the astros fault really
Baseball has a lot of its just one of those things everyone does and hope we dont get caught and yah theres always been some sort of cheating issue.

Media and technology is probably to blame

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