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Agnostic420
06/07/21 3:26:25 PM
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Hell yeah. MURICA!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/07/politics/colonial-pipeline-ransomware-recovered/index.html

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thronedfire2
06/07/21 3:27:07 PM
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But wait I thought it wasnt traceable????

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DarkRoast
06/07/21 3:28:06 PM
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The company shouldn't get the money back if this wasn't a coordinated thing. It's no different than paying off terrorists. It ultimately fosters more.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
06/07/21 3:29:33 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
The company shouldn't get the money back if this wasn't a coordinated thing. It's no different than paying off terrorists. It ultimately fosters more.

Pretty sure it was all coordinated with the FBI

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Agnostic420
06/07/21 3:31:42 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
But wait I thought it wasnt traceable????

everything is traceable

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Trumble
06/07/21 3:33:52 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
But wait I thought it wasnt traceable????

It's anonymous, not untraceable. Pretty much like how cash is - you can walk into a shop and pay with a $20 bill and no one needs to know who you are, but the bill still has a serial number on it and if they really wanted to they could (hypothetically at least - in practice it's unlikely that enough people have kept enough information along the way) track it by that.

Exactly what info would be used / etc is different for Bitcoin of course, but the underlying "anonymous, not untraceable" concept still applies.

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Jabodie
06/07/21 3:36:27 PM
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In fact one of the major ideas behind bitcoin is that everybody has access to the ledger.

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krazychao5
06/07/21 3:37:21 PM
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Trumble posted...
It's anonymous, not untraceable. Pretty much like how cash is - you can walk into a shop and pay with a $20 bill and no one needs to know who you are, but the bill still has a serial number on it and if they really wanted to they could (hypothetically at least - in practice it's unlikely that enough people have kept enough information along the way) track it by that.

Exactly what info would be used / etc is different for Bitcoin of course, but the underlying "anonymous, not untraceable" concept still applies.
i think it more like there were security cameras that day you were there to spend the money. no way the serial number on cash bills is tracked.

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Trumble
06/07/21 3:38:01 PM
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krazychao5 posted...
no way the serial number on cash bills is tracked.
It theoretically could be, though. Most bitcoin transactions aren't in practice going to be tracked either. We're talking here about what's possible, not what happens as a regular day-to-day thing.

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krazychao5
06/07/21 4:04:08 PM
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i just don't see how it could be tracked. if it goes through a bank, sure. just hands from people to people or small business doesn't make sense.

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Tyranthraxus
06/07/21 4:07:43 PM
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krazychao5 posted...
i just don't see how it could be tracked. if it goes through a bank, sure. just hands from people to people or small business doesn't make sense.
You can literally track paper money going across hands under the table. You think Bitcoin is somehow less trackable?

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krazychao5
06/07/21 4:10:06 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
You can literally track paper money going across hands under the table. You think Bitcoin is somehow less trackable?
https://tinyurl.com/fc9jafta
idk, seems like people needed to record and upload the data to track the movement of dollar bills.

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Trumble
06/07/21 4:11:50 PM
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krazychao5 posted...
i just don't see how it could be tracked. if it goes through a bank, sure. just hands from people to people or small business doesn't make sense.

How much do you know about how Bitcoin works, in general? (I don't mean this in a rude way, more a "trying to figure out how much I actually need to explain vs what parts you already know" way.)

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EnterTheTekken
06/07/21 4:12:09 PM
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krazychao5
06/07/21 4:12:51 PM
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Trumble posted...
How much do you know about how Bitcoin works, in general? (I don't mean this in a rude way, more a "trying to figure out how much I actually need to explain vs what parts you already know" way.)
pretty well. what you have quoted me i was referring to paper bills USD

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Trumble
06/07/21 4:13:04 PM
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EnterTheTekken posted...
Shoulda asked for Doge.

Should've asked for one of those cryptos that literally tries to be untraceable (although I don't know how successful any of them are in that regard).

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Tyranthraxus
06/07/21 4:15:46 PM
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krazychao5 posted...
https://tinyurl.com/fc9jafta
idk, seems like people needed to record and upload the data to track the movement of dollar bills.
You're talking about a hobby. Criminally speaking if I rob a bank and launder the cash, the bank that eventually gets the deposit will know the cash was stolen from the SNs alone.

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krazychao5
06/07/21 4:17:43 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
You're talking about a hobby. Criminally speaking if I rob a bank and launder the cash, the bank that eventually gets the deposit will know the cash was stolen from the SNs alone.

krazychao5 posted...
i just don't see how it could be tracked. if it goes through a bank, sure. just hands from people to people or small business doesn't make sense.

so you have nothing to dispute my point

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Tyranthraxus
06/07/21 4:19:53 PM
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krazychao5 posted...
so you have nothing to dispute my point

You have no point. You posted some nonsense about a group hobby.

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krazychao5
06/07/21 4:21:18 PM
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Trumble posted...
u can walk into a shop and pay with a $20 bill and no one needs to know who you are, but the bill still has a serial number on it and if they really wanted to they could (hypothetically at least - in practice it's unlikely that enough people have kept enough information along the way) track it by that.
no one is tracking cash movements. bitcoin can be tracked. it's like you cannot read, but 2 people are responding to me so maybe you have a hard time with that.

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Agnostic420
06/08/21 11:50:36 AM
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Dis a win for the Biden administration?

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Squall28
06/08/21 11:52:19 AM
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BignutzisBack
06/08/21 11:53:38 AM
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LMAO so they barely recovered half of the ransom and still have no idea how to stop it from happening again

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Agnostic420
06/08/21 12:59:22 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
LMAO so they barely recovered half of the ransom and still have no idea how to stop it from happening again

omg only half of 4.4 MILLION.

only 2.2 MILLION?!? Lmao! Omg lolz hackers won yay lizard people!

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