Current Events > Could 2nd amendment gun huggers win against the government?

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They claim they need their guns to protect against the tyrannical government but would they succeed against the might of the US government?

One gun nutter said the US couldn't beat untrained and ill-equipped terrorists for 20 years in Afghanistan so clearly they could beat the military.

I'm like

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Depends which side the 2nd amendment gun huggers who are part of the government take

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You're less likely to be an oppressive government if you're gonna have a guerilla problem until you die of old age

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Seeing as how the US military is effectively 0-3 against dudes in sandals, pajamas, and carrying AKs, it's actually possible. War isn't about large scale formations duking it out over terrain and cities anymore.

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Probably not, but it really comes down to how far the military is willing to go and how loosely they want to interpret the Geneva Convention.

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Not with the military industrial complex those same people love bloating.

ScazarMeltex posted...

Seeing as how the US military is effectively 0-3 against dudes in sandals, pajamas, and carrying AKs, it's actually possible. War isn't about large scale formations duking it out over terrain and cities anymore.

And that was in a different country we didn't have much concern over the property damage for. Few governments would send in the heavy stuff here to flatten their own cities and farmlands.

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A lot of military will deflect and become rebel scum with the rest of us
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lightwarrior78 posted...

And that was in a different country we didn't have much concern over the property damage for. Few governments would send in the heavy stuff here to flatten their own cities and farmlands.

What if they decide to have this battle abroad?

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Enough bodies revolting would definitely be enough to overthrow the government. They would have no answer to it unless the military decides to bomb the ever living shit out of the country, but that'd just cause other people to revolt as well.

Smaller less equipped forces have won against larger ones countless times. It can be done

Usually the bigger force wins though

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Lmao no not at all. Drones over all your cities already lmao. Im a 2nd amendment gun hugging liberal who keeps my .40S&W in my gay ass purse, and I dont have any illusions about taking on the literal over budgeted military with it LOL

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They have this fantasy that if they rose up against the government most of the military would not only refuse to fight them but join them and fight side by side with them.

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If the US government decided to institute marshal law and declared civilian gun owners enemies of the state to be shot on site it would be over in a month. I mean a true purge. Air strikes, drone strikes, collateral damage expected and allowed. Once he got done firebombing west Virginia people would turn their .357s over so fast it would make your head spin.

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no way

the government has too much of a logistical advantage. they can shut down the power grid if you they want to and kill people without even firing a shot

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I feel like the vast majority of the military and law enforcement would also fall into the 2nd amendment gun hugger category.

The US military would win by a light year regardless of how many water bottles you can shoot at 500 yards with a handgun with no rifling while also blindfolded
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ScazarMeltex posted...

Seeing as how the US military is effectively 0-3 against dudes in sandals, pajamas, and carrying AKs, it's actually possible. War isn't about large scale formations duking it out over terrain and cities anymore.

You're talking about society of people who already has a watchlist for people considering armed sedition, who are being SYSTEMATICALLY TRACKED AND RECORDED OF THEIR OWN VOLITION (CELL PHONES) ALONG WITH THEIR ENTIRE FAMILIES. WHOSE ENTIRE SYSTEM OF COMMUNICATION IS BASED ON AN INTERNET THEY SUPPORT THE REPUBS HIJACKING CONTROL OF BY ENDING NET NEUTRALITY.

Lol, no. These morons will get rounded up before it could even start.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/gxnmlz/but_the_civilian_population_could_never_stand_up/

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ShyOx posted...

You're talking about society of people who already has a watchlist for people considering armed sedition, who are being SYSTEMATICALLY TRACKED AND RECORDED OF THEIR OWN VOLITION (CELL PHONES) ALONG WITH THEIR ENTIRE FAMILIES. WHOSE ENTIRE SYSTEM OF COMMUNICATION IS BASED ON AN INTERNET THEY SUPPORT THE REPUBS HIJACKING CONTROL OF BY ENDING NET NEUTRALITY.

Lol, no. These morons will get rounded up before it could even start.

Oh no doubt. I said it's possible, not probable. The difference between our 2nd amendment dorks, the Iraqi insurgency, and The Taliban are legion.

Some fucking clown who has spent his life living a comfortable middle class life isn't going to go in the woods, dig tunnels to hide in, shit in a folgers can (or a hole in the ground), get dysentery (or any of the other myriad illnesses that you can catch living rough) and subsist on the barest minimum needed to sustain life all while waging a guerilla war. It's just not gonna happen. Spend some time studying up on how shitty the life of the average Taliban, Mujahideen, or VC guerillas were. You think some fucking chud like Baked Alaska or Nick Fuentes is gonna live like that?

It takes more than guns to win using a people's war/partisan strategy, and the American right just doesn't have it. You are talking about people who think tyranny is being asked to wear a mask and stay home.

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StucklnMyPants posted...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/gxnmlz/but_the_civilian_population_could_never_stand_up/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Victories_Against_the_Odds
Wars and battles are not about the numbers, especially not when one side is actually overweight and the other has elite level training on an overfunded military branch
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StucklnMyPants posted...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/gxnmlz/but_the_civilian_population_could_never_stand_up/

Lmao

Pretend soldier really thinks he's gonna win against the fucking military

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Modern militaries dont fight using GUNS lmao

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supercurrymax posted...

Lmao

Pretend soldier really thinks he's gonna win against the fucking military

DrOnEs ShMoNeS wE'lL hAcK tHeM

an armed insurgency wouldnt be fighting the military. things would be bad enough with mutinies with in the system considering their political demographics. that would largely leave out major fire power that the military has access to of which its generally not a good idea to drone strike its own citizens in front of the whole world/country. its a good recipe to turn more of the citizenry against the system and makes other countries salivate at the thought of getting in on the fun. police would be the major threat who are much more susceptible to small arms fire.

its also not a good idea to snatch people up and cause shoot outs all over the place. the more of a ruckus they cause the more people take notice and start asking questions. i have no doubt they have the capability to make people disappear without a fuss, but given how shitty the system is already chances are high they are going to fuck up quite a bit, not to mention if things get bad enough people are already going to be on alert. probably not best to do that with tens of millions who could have a glock on their hip while out and about and an AR at their bedside.

The military would still have a big advantage, but they will be limited by the amount of technology they can use on the population. If you start drone striking every threat you're going to destroy a lot of your own infrastructure that you need to operate things like the drones (fuel, ammo, computer parts, etc.).

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