Current Events > Just tried the impossible whopper

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heard so many good things about it when it first came out in the states but the canadian version must be different because this shit's nastyyyyyyyy

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No, that's not true. That's impossible!

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wbloechel posted...

I can't tell if this is a gimmick thing or not...

not liking a food is a gimmick now?

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I think it good to have more variety, though it's not for me...
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I can't get the aftertaste out of my mouth

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Xavier_On_High posted...

No, that's not true. That's impossible!

Search your feelings, you know it to be true!

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Yeah, this impossible meat fad should probably just go. It seems like it'll never be worth the money for R&D etc for something extremely niche. The vast majority of humans are always gonna want meat.

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Gal_Gadonut posted...

Yeah, this impossible meat fad should probably just go. It seems like it'll never be worth the money for R&D etc for something extremely niche. The vast majority of humans are always gonna want meat.

Totally disagree.

We aren't that far off from making plant based food indistinguishable and cheaper from real meat, and if that happens we can make a huge dent against climate change.

There is really no downside to stuff like the impossible burger existing and improving.

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Gal_Gadonut posted...

Yeah, this impossible meat fad should probably just go. It seems like it'll never be worth the money for R&D etc for something extremely niche. The vast majority of humans are always gonna want meat.

I think it good to have the option. As long as nobody is forced. That said, I have heard that the impossible foods as more for a certain set of individuals. Like a pretty small set...

joe40001 posted...

We aren't that far off from making plant based food indistinguishable and cheaper from real meat, and if that happens we can make a huge dent against climate change.

I've heard different. I've heard they're only had a lot of success with ground meat, like for burgers. And maybe smaller pieces, like for nuggets (Though I heard that's still a work in progress). Also, steaks were harder, as well. Like full big pieces of meat. That's said, they are working on a fungi-based steal, but it's a different company from the people who make the impossible meat...

As for how much it helps the environment, it depends on how many people actually replace meat with plant based meats. And it would have to be enough to lower how many animals farmers have. If about the same amount of real meat is bought, then there really isn't a change. Because how much impossible meat is sold doesn't change the climate. It's how much less real meat is sold...

But like I said earlier, I'll still buy real meat. But I don't think it's bad having options...
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LinkPizza posted...

As for how much it helps the environment, it depends on how many people actually replace meat with plant based meats. And it would have to be enough to lower how many animals farmers have. If about the same amount of real meat is bought, then there really isn't a change. Because how much impossible meat is sold doesn't change the climate. It's how much less real meat is sold...

Yes, of course, but if it tastes as good or better and costs less people will buy a lot less real meat and buy it instead.

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joe40001 posted...

Yes, of course, but if it tastes as good or better and costs less people will buy a lot less real meat and buy it instead.

Proof?

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It's good, but nothing to write home about as a vegetarian.

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Blade_Trinity posted...

Proof?

People have non-infinite money and buy non-infinite food.

If people are getting more of their "meat tasting food" from plant based meats they are going to be getting less of their "meat tasting food" from meat.

If the proof question is "how do I know people will buy food if it tastes better/costs less?" McDonalds I guess.

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joe40001 posted...

Yes, of course, but if it tastes as good or better and costs less people will buy a lot less real meat and buy it instead.

True for most. I'd personally still go for real meat myself, but others may make the switch. But that's if. Because I haven't heard many people claim it taste better (there are some, though). Some have claimed it taste the same. Many more have said it taste worse, though... From my experience, at least.

And texture matters, too. That was some people's problem with it, as well... Like, you could theoretically make an impossible steak using ground meat. But that's not normally the texture of steak. The fungi steak would probably help with that, though. But it just depends. I know many people who would still avoid impossible meat, even if it was cheaper. Since taste is subjective, I can't really say much about if they would switch for that since some might like the taste, and others may not...
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Yeah, super processed food is amazing

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LinkPizza posted...

True for most. I'd personally still go for real meat myself,

Can I ask why?

but others may make the switch. But that's if. Because I haven't heard many people claim it taste better (there are some, though). Some have claimed it taste the same. Many more have said it taste worse, though... From my experience, at least.

It's not there yet, but it's something that in 5-10 years could easily be there.

And texture matters, too. That was some people's problem with it, as well... Like, you could theoretically make an impossible steak using ground meat. But that's not normally the texture of steak. The fungi steak would probably help with that, though. But it just depends. I know many people who would still avoid impossible meat, even if it was cheaper. Since taste is subjective, I can't really say much about if they would switch for that since some might like the taste, and others may not...

Yeah, obviously you have to get the taste and texture right, but if it did taste better or the same to most people, I think most people would switch.

Realistically, the moment it tastes indistinguishable and costs like 1 cent less, you'll see a drop off in meat sales.

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joe40001 posted...

So no proof then. Was just wondering. Carry on.


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The left really seems to enjoy pushing the bug eating/ fake meat thing.


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Blade_Trinity posted...

So no proof then. Was just wondering. Carry on.

What proof or evidence would you accept?

Also do you have equivalent proof or evidence that what I claimed was false?

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I agree with Joe (never thought I'd say that o.0) but I think it'll take a bit longer than people think. Maybe a generational shift

I'm not sure how it is in the US, but here many brands have gone on record as saying 'we offer all these organic/bio/low-calorie etc alternatives but barely anyone buys them'. And while that was a good few years ago and things have changed since then (young millennials and especially Gen X have grown up and started shopping for themselves etc) it won't be mainstream until the older generations pass on. Considering our ageing population here, that will definitely take a while
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joe40001 posted...

Can I ask why?

Just a personal preference, I guess...

joe40001 posted...

It's not there yet, but it's something that in 5-10 years could easily be there.

Probably. I can't say for sure. I mean, while we do have many things that taste like other stuff (like coca cola flavored tic tacs), stuff like that might be easy since you can use the same ingredients. Like using fruits flavors for candy or juice. But you couldn't really use actual meat to make impossible meats. So I can see why it could be hard to actual manufacture real meat taste to an exact amount. But maybe they can one day. Only time will tell...

joe40001 posted...

Yeah, obviously you have to get the taste and texture right, but if it did taste better or the same to most people, I think most people would switch.

Realistically, the moment it tastes indistinguishable and costs like 1 cent less, you'll see a drop off in meat sales.

I can say I agree. The only reason is the amount of people I have seen that said they probably wouldn't switch, even if it was closer in taste and cheaper. But it's not like they have polled the whole world or anything yet. So maybe, maybe not. That said, if they raise meat prices and keep the population poor, there may be no other choice for them. But being forced to sounds pretty bad in itself...

teep_ posted...

I'm not sure how it is in the US, but here many brands have gone on record as saying 'we offer all these organic/bio/low-calorie etc alternatives but barely anyone buys them'. And while that was a good few years ago and things have changed since then (young millennials and especially Gen X have grown up and started shopping for themselves etc) it won't be mainstream until the older generations pass on. Considering our ageing population here, that will definitely take a while

I've seen this, as well... Many stores do offers stuff like that, but gets avoided by most people. But I do think a generational shift would be needed. But that's assuming the newer generation under them wants the same thing. Things could always change based on that, I guess...
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LinkPizza posted...

But that's assuming the newer generation under them wants the same thing

The new generation here is the one leading the Fridays for Future campaign and successfully suing the government for not being green enough

I think we're in safe hands
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teep_ posted...

The new generation here is the one leading the Fridays for Future campaign and successfully suing the government for not being green enough

I think we're in safe hands

I meant the new generations after them. I have no idea what they will be like. They could be completely different... Also, I've never heard of that campaign...
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True, but I think it's safe to assume the overall swing will be towards 'green' ways of living
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I tried them side by side with a friend after hearing about the updated formula and we both thought the impossible whopper was as good or even slightly better.

I later had some of that "meat" shipped to my house and found it to be completely different. Not sure what Burger King did to it but it was much better than what I was able to do at home. Still edible but not remotely worth the cost at the moment. Also tried the cheaper Beyond stuff and found that to be even worse.

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Zaltera posted...

I later had some of that "meat" shipped to my house and found it to be completely different. Not sure what Burger King did to it but it was much better than what I was able to do at home. Still edible but not remotely worth the cost at the moment. Also tried the cheaper Beyond stuff and found that to be even worse.

It possible it was different because they cook it on the same grill as the regular burgers. Meaning its not completely vegan. That said, all restaurants do stuff differently to their burgers. Thats why its easy to tell the difference between burgers from different restaurants. And also easy to tell them from home cooked ones. And Ive heard beyond stuff wasnt good. Only certain plant base stuff is usually good. But most is better than when I was younger, I hear. I remember the stuff from when I was a kid being really bad. Haha.
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Do these impossible meats contain similar nutritional content to the meat theyre attempting to imitate? I feel like a large portion of protein would be lost in the impossible meat.

joe40001 posted...

if that happens we can make a huge dent against climate change.

Why would you think exchanging one type of commercial farming for another would change anything at all?

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DocDelicious posted...

Why would you think exchanging one type of commercial farming for another would change anything at all?

Because the one being replaced produces much much more in the way of greenhouse gases.

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I think it was alright. I didn't even realize they still had it though, kinda surprised. Regular whopper is much better, and I'm not really a big fan of Whoppers.
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I wanted to get one when they had that special deal for getting a regular and impossible one for the price on one, but missed it... Mostly to see how it was...
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LinkPizza posted...

It possible it was different because they cook it on the same grill as the regular burgers. Meaning its not completely vegan.

Sounds likely.

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I saw it on the menu for a split second today
I devoured my regular whopper and never looked back


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its not impossible if you can eat the whole thing...

if there's anything that Tom Cruise taught me is that no mission is impossible!

BroodRyu posted...

Do these impossible meats contain similar nutritional content to the meat theyre attempting to imitate? I feel like a large portion of protein would be lost in the impossible meat.

It's the same amount of protein with less fat and no cholesterol. I like them more than regular whoppers so I checked before making the permanent switch.

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